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it’s the same EO, otherwise Trump wouldn’t decide to do that by Monday. (That is the same day of our EO’s expiring!) .
We should accept the reality of things, this is what will happen, probability that this will not happen and it’s a new EO is extremely unlikely.
 
Walt91 said:
We don’t know if this is going to be an extension on the current order, let’s hope not but...wait and see.
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“The impact could be more than directly proportionate to the duration of the suspension — because it is not just a ban on the individuals but what it means to business for ongoing and new client projects, end-client commitments, etc.,” she said.

In April, Trump had signed an Executive Order announcing restrictions on certain categories of residence permits, or Green Cards, for 60 days.
 
How it is possible that dvprogram has no writen scenario if things could go catastrophic like this year,how can our lives be ruined by a pandemic thats is not our fault,the program operates for more than 20+ years and doesnt have a plan if things go wrong way,Every other program in the world or visa application have delays 3-4 months,no big deal I wouldnt care if I would have 1 year delay,but dvprogram is the only one that is like a ticking clock,You wait 1 year 99% prepared with docs and everything else,and virus comes out bye bye you’re burned.1October starts dv2021 without any explanation or nothing,just condolences,Man is little to say it destroyed our life ,it gave us such a pain that went into our bones.
 
eu47zzz said:
How it is possible that dvprogram has no writen scenario if things could go catastrophic like this year,how can our lives be ruined by a pandemic thats is not our fault,the program operates for more than 20+ years and doesnt have a plan if things go wrong way,Every other program in the world or visa application have delays 3-4 months,no big deal I wouldnt care if I would have 1 year delay,but dvprogram is the only one that is like a ticking clock,You wait 1 year 99% prepared with docs and everything else,and virus comes out bye bye you’re burned.1October starts dv2021 without any explanation or nothing,just condolences,Man is little to say it destroyed our life ,it gave us such a pain that went into our bones.
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Where from this post??
Has the president spoken??
There will be no ban extension on GC visas
 
Ellen 94 said:
Where from this post??
Has the president spoken??
There will be no ban extension on GC visas
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1) this obviously is written by himself ..
2) The president is still finishing his breakfast, so no.
And 3) let’s wait for official news, that’s all we can do.
 
Walt91 said:
1) this obviously is written by himself ..
2) The president is still finishing his breakfast, so no.
And 3) let’s wait for official news, that’s all we can do.
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Im not talking about the ban specificaly,Im talking about the whole situation or were you in sleep for the last 3 months,dont you see the damage thats it is done,embassies are closed and have no sign when will they reopen soon,even if the ban is ended ,most of the people wont get an interview date and the majority of visas will be wasted,also KCC didnt show any sign that will send 2nls this month for august interviews,if thats so only one month is left ,so are you convinced that we are in a big trouble.
 
eu47zzz said:
Im not talking about the ban specificaly,Im talking about the whole situation or were you in sleep for the last 3 months,dont you see the damage thats it is done,embassies are closed and have no sign when will they reopen soon,even if the ban is ended ,most of the people wont get an interview date and the majority of visas will be wasted,also KCC didnt show any sign that will send 2nls this month for august interviews,if thats so only one month is left ,so are you convinced that we are in a big trouble.
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And I’m not talking about your post. I’m telling the person that’s it’s not and official post since the question is “where the post is from” Or were you not reading?
And no, I do not hibernate during spring, it’s no news what you’re posting we all know that and don’t need to hear it another 100 times. Just wait for official news that actually is beneficial to all of us.
 
Walt91 said:
And I’m not talking about your post. I’m telling the person that’s it’s not and official post since the question is “where the post is from” Or were you not reading?
And no, I do not hibernate during spring, it’s no news what you’re posting we all know that and don’t need to hear it another 100 times. Just wait for official news that actually is beneficial to all of us.
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My post has nothing to do with any news let alone official news,it was not “news” at all.It was my thought in all the dv program and their handicaps.
 
eu47zzz said:
How it is possible that dvprogram has no writen scenario if things could go catastrophic like this year,how can our lives be ruined by a pandemic thats is not our fault,the program operates for more than 20+ years and doesnt have a plan if things go wrong way,Every other program in the world or visa application have delays 3-4 months,no big deal I wouldnt care if I would have 1 year delay,but dvprogram is the only one that is like a ticking clock,You wait 1 year 99% prepared with docs and everything else,and virus comes out bye bye you’re burned.1October starts dv2021 without any explanation or nothing,just condolences,Man is little to say it destroyed our life ,it gave us such a pain that went into our bones.
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It does have a written scenario. The rules are clear and have been there for over 20 years. The rule is the program ends at the end of the fiscal year. We may not like that answer, but that is the lottery we participated in - so those are the rules.

Does that seem unfair - of course it does. It sucks! But then I suppose the families of the 500k people who have died from COVID probably think it sucks too. Let's keep some perspective, please.

As for the endless speculation about what Trump will or won't announce. How about we just wait and see what is announced.
 
Britsimon said:
It does have a written scenario. The rules are clear and have been there for over 20 years. The rule is the program ends at the end of the fiscal year. We may not like that answer, but that is the lottery we participated in - so those are the rules.

Does that seem unfair - of course it does. It sucks! But then I suppose the families of the 500k people who have died from COVID probably think it sucks too. Let's keep some perspective, please.

As for the endless speculation about what Trump will or won't announce. How about we just wait and see what is announced.
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Pleas Brit Please stop relating diseases with lottery ,If we look by your perspective ,milions of people die every year from hunger ,so you shouldnt have bought your mercedes-benz in sign of solidarity with them,because its unfair and it sucks that someone dies of hunger and some other has mercedes -benz is that allright ,so we shouldnt chase our dreams because people died ,are dying and will die in the future? You may know a lot about dvlottery but dont get in the “life lessons” please its pathetic,With all due respect don’t play the “I know everythin card”.
 
eu47zzz said:
Pleas Brit Please stop relating diseases with lottery ,If we look by your perspective ,milions of people die every year from hunger ,so you shouldnt have bought your mercedes-benz in sign of solidarity with them,because its unfair and it sucks that someone dies of hunger and some other has mercedes -benz is that allright ,so we shouldnt chase our dreams because people died ,are dying and will die in the future? You may know a lot about dvlottery but dont get in the “life lessons” please its pathetic,With all due respect don’t play the “I know everythin card”.
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we all suffer from the same situation brother. Let's hope the best. But don't blame any person who volunteers supporting the DV community. they are for us. YES, he knows everything compared to us. so show some respect to people who here for us, especially this kind of situation.
 
Also, it cannot possibly be that “your lives are destroyed” by not getting something that (made clear both in the entry instructions and instructions for selectees) is never guaranteed to begin with. It’s not like you had something that was taken away from you. And yes we do see posts like this in every year that there is a cut-off at the end of the year and higher CNs lose out, or someone never gets off AP before fiscal year end, or is denied on public charge, etc etc. It‘s the rules you signed up for. Yes, it sucks, but nothing about issuance was ever guaranteed at any point before a visa was actually placed in anyone’s passport.
 
eu47zzz said:
How it is possible that dvprogram has no writen scenario if things could go catastrophic like this year,how can our lives be ruined by a pandemic thats is not our fault,the program operates for more than 20+ years and doesnt have a plan if things go wrong way,Every other program in the world or visa application have delays 3-4 months,no big deal I wouldnt care if I would have 1 year delay,but dvprogram is the only one that is like a ticking clock,You wait 1 year 99% prepared with docs and everything else,and virus comes out bye bye you’re burned.1October starts dv2021 without any explanation or nothing,just condolences,Man is little to say it destroyed our life ,it gave us such a pain that went into our bones.
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Unfortunately, the law on which the program runs has no exception. It clearly states:
“(U) Under INA 204(a)(1)(I)(ii)(II), persons selected as DV immigrants are entitled to apply for a visa only during the fiscal year for which the entry was submitted. The DV entry (which serves as the petition required pursuant to INA 204(a)(1)(I)) is valid until midnight of the last day of the fiscal year for which the petition was submitted. There is no carry-over of benefit into another year for persons who were not issued a visa during the fiscal year for which they registered.”

The law allows for no exception. The DV program is of no benefit to the US. Selectees are the ones who stand to gain from the program. There’s no other country in the world AFAIK that runs a program such as this. Yes people get selected, they get hopeful but for one reason or the other, they end up not getting a GC (even through no fault of theirs). That’s the fact of life, it is however not the end of the world. We’ve seen this happen before. It will happen again. Hopes and dreams will be shattered for some, some will get through. It is as simple as that.
 
Sm1smom said:
The DV program is of no benefit to the US.
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I mean... isn’t the whole idea of the DV program that the ‘benefit’ to the US is a diversification of the origin of immigrants...?

Some (or even many) may say the ‘benefit’ is specious, but clearly at some point there was an appetite for it.

That being said, the rules are very clear and there’s never a guarantee that one ends up with a visa.
 
amc_556 said:
I mean... isn’t the whole idea of the DV program that the ‘benefit’ to the US is a diversification of the origin of immigrants...?

Some (or even many) may say the ‘benefit’ is specious, but clearly at some point there was an appetite for it.

That being said, the rules are very clear and there’s never a guarantee that one ends up with a visa.
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well, little bit of history for you, look up its roots and you’ll see it was actually originally designed to re-ignite white (mainly Irish And Italian) immigration.
example https://www.history.com/news/the-diversity-green-card-lottery-was-originally-for-white-immigrants

But bottom line is 50k out of an annual average of somewhere around a million immigrants doesn’t do much one way or the other.
 
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