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DV-2014 Lottery. Age 21 Issue. Please read and help. :/

AldoBlack

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Hello,

When I made the application fo DV-2014 I was 20 years old, also I'm still 20 years old. I turn 21 years old on july. Do I have chances to go to USA with my family or not?

I have read that I can go with them but when I spoke with an advocate in my country (Albania) he said that I can't go with them. Please help. :/

Thank you.
 
Depends on your rank number and when it becomes current. All this is well regulated by law.
 
Pretty high. Most likely you will not be able to get a visa. Your number in DV-2013 would be current only in June, but according to Child Status Protection Act you have time only until February, If it becomes later, you are out of luck
 
Hello,

When I made the application fo DV-2014 I was 20 years old, also I'm still 20 years old. I turn 21 years old on july. Do I have chances to go to USA with my family or not?

I have read that I can go with them but when I spoke with an advocate in my country (Albania) he said that I can't go with them. Please help. :/

Thank you.


Are you married?

Did you apply as a single applicant or did your parents apply = you being selected through them?

If you applied as a single applicant then you're fine even if you hit the age of 21 and I don't think you'd have a problem.

I suggest you check the rules and regulations on the DV site. If I get a chance I'll have a look as well and find out for you.

Case No - DV2013AF0007XXXX (applied the first time and got it the first time - lucky me lol)
Entry Checked - 1st May 2012
Forms Sent To KCC - 10th May 2012
Received By KCC - 12th May 2012
Confirmation From KCC - 25th May 2012 after I sent them an email
2nd NL - Not Yet
Police Clearance - Not Yet
Medicals - Not Yet
Interviews - Hopefully in mid-August
Visa Pick up - Hopefully in mid-August
Port of Entry - New York JFK
 
Are you married?

Did you apply as a single applicant or did your parents apply = you being selected through them?

If you applied as a single applicant then you're fine even if you hit the age of 21 and I don't think you'd have a problem.

I suggest you check the rules and regulations on the DV site. If I get a chance I'll have a look as well and find out for you.

Case No - DV2013AF0007XXXX (applied the first time and got it the first time - lucky me lol)
Entry Checked - 1st May 2012
Forms Sent To KCC - 10th May 2012
Received By KCC - 12th May 2012
Confirmation From KCC - 25th May 2012 after I sent them an email
2nd NL - Not Yet
Police Clearance - Not Yet
Medicals - Not Yet
Interviews - Hopefully in mid-August
Visa Pick up - Hopefully in mid-August
Port of Entry - New York JFK

No, I'm not married. My father applied. I've been selected through them. What I want to say is that now that my father won DV-2014, now I'm 16 years old. I turn 21 years old on July 2013.

I read the rules and they say that I can go if I am 20 years old in the moment that my father applies. Doesn't matter if I turn 21 later, but some people says that I can not go.

I don't know if you understood me.

Thank You.
 
No, I'm not married. My father applied. I've been selected through them. What I want to say is that now that my father won DV-2014, now I'm 16 years old. I turn 21 years old on July 2013.

I read the rules and they say that I can go if I am 20 years old in the moment that my father applies. Doesn't matter if I turn 21 later, but some people says that I can not go.

I don't know if you understood me.

Thank You.


I believe that as long as at the time of selection on May 1st you were still under 21 you would qualify and be able to join your family but I will check this.

I also refer to a case of my father's cousin who applied for the DV some years ago and was selected and subsequently all his children went through under his selection except his daughter who was already 21 at the time of selection and was not eligible and therefore unable to join them.
 
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I just checked the interview requirements and it says the following:

Applicants whose 21st birthday is before the appointment date should immediately contact the U.S. Embassy/Consulate General where the interview will occur to request an earlier appointment. Failure to receive a visa before the applicant's 21st birthday may make the applicant ineligible for an immigrant visa at this time.


http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/info/info_3743.html


My child will turn 21 years old soon. Will that affect their visa?

If you plan to immigrate to the United States with your children, or to have your children join you in the United States later, you must prove that your children are:

Unmarried
Eligible to be listed under your visa classification, and
Under the age of 21 at the time they enter the United States
If your child will soon turn 21, your child could become ineligible to immigrate with you. If your child cannot immigrate with you because of their age, then a separate petition must be filed for your child and there may be a significant delay before your child becomes eligible for a visa.

If visas are available in your visa category before your child's birthday, the NVC may be able to expedite your case so that you and your child can immigrate together. Unfortunately, if visas are not available before the child's birthday, the NVC cannot expedite the case.

There is also a law called the Child Status Protection Act (CSPA), which applies to a narrow range of cases and may allow the principal applicant's son or daughter to remain eligible under this petition. At the time of the parent's visa interview, the consular officer will determine whether or not CSPA is applicable in your particular situation.
 
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Hello,

When I made the application fo DV-2014 I was 20 years old, also I'm still 20 years old. I turn 21 years old on july. Do I have chances to go to USA with my family or not?

I have read that I can go with them but when I spoke with an advocate in my country (Albania) he said that I can't go with them. Please help. :/

Thank you.

Dear sir
In DV the case is totaly differnet becase they will take in there considration your age at the time of registration not at the time of the interview so don't worry you will get GC with your family even your case number high you still will get it with your family its a matter of time only
 
They take the time netween the first day of submission period and May 1, and they freeze your age for that number of days. Then you get effectively 21 when that amount of days passes after your real birthday. If the number becomes current by that date, you will get your visa through parents. If you marry, you will be disqualified
 
Below is what I have posted before on this forum on this topic.
It will help you to know the background and do the math I guess.

There is new development on this as far as FB GCs are concerned (read links below), but things might change for better for DVs also, keep an eye on future developments. The fair thing to do imo for DVs is if the parents come to US and file for i-130 in the same FY (best is if they are given 2 yrs or at least say Sep 30+ 6mos) then let the 21+ kid keep parents' DV priority date for his/her FB GC.

Read here
http://lawandborder.com/?p=1801
(see last para)

http://lawandborder.com/?p=2334

Best!

NuvF said:
Children Aged 21 and 'AGEING OUT' Protection...The Imm. Law 'math' is NOT that simple!!

The e-DV application instructions on this 'seems' pretty straight fwd;

#14.......U.S. law protects children from “aging out” in certain circumstances. If your electronic DV entry is made before your unmarried child turns 21, and the child turns 21 before visa issuance, he/she will be treated as though he/she were under 21 for visa-processing purposes.

However it is anything but simple !

The law it refers to is called 'The Child Status Protection Act of 2000' and it uses a formula to calculate the 'adjusted age' of a child ON THE 1ST DAY A VISA IS AVAILABLE for him/her.

It has been originally developed to apply to kids on family based GC cases, and modified a bit to apply to DV kids. What is important in that formula is a term called 'Petition Pending Period' and for DV kids this is---------> The date on the 1st NL MINUS 1st date of e-DV application period. And this can range anywhere from 6-9 mos. This is the period 'adjusted' from kid's 'current' age.

The rule simply say, on the day the DV CN become current, kid's adjusted age has to be below 21., and he got 1 yr from the 'current date' to get the visa. (i.e. On the DV CN current date, he can be NO MORE than 21 yrs PLUS 6-9 months!!)

If one hits 21 AFTER the e-DV application and depending on his b'day and the 'current month' , one can get disqualified for a visa. KCC does the calculation and may or may not include the child in the 2nd NL. But if the child is below 21 as of one's e-DV application date, one HAS TO include him/her no matter what the future holds.

Hope this may be helpful for 'some' DV winners. I came to know this 'cos a family I know was affected by this and the kid missed the mark by ~3 mos and few days !!

Best !
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Formula;
(as found at the end of http://travel.state.gov/visa/laws/telegrams/telegrams_1369.html)

1. Alien''s Date of Birth:
2. Date Petition Filed:
3. Date Petition Approved:

4. Length of Time Petition Pending =#3 minus #2
5. Date Petition Became Current = 1st of the month CN become current
6. Date Visa Became Available (Later of #3 or #5) =
7. Age of Alien on Date Visa Became Available = #6 minus #1
8. Age for CSPA purpose = Age at time Visa Became Available minus Length of Time Petition Pending = #7 minus #4:

#2 & 3 are not directly applied to DV, hence they have made a different criteria for DV.
(found at Page#4 of http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/CSPA2_pub.pdf)

Section 3 of the CSPA also applies to derivative DV applicants. Because the DV application and adjudication process differs substantially from the application and adjudication process for preference categories, the treatment of DV derivatives will also be somewhat different. For the purpose of determining the period during which the “petition is pending,” Service officers should use the period between the first day of the DV mail-in application period for the program year in which the principal alien has qualified and the date on the letter notifying the principal alien that his/her application has been selected (the congratulatory letter). That period should then be subtracted from the derivative alien’s age on the date the visa became available to the principal alien.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/laws/telegrams/telegrams_1429.html

For more info

http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/pressrelease/CSPA2_pub.pdf

http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/...-Based_Priority_Date_Retention_Final_Memo.pdf

http://shusterman.com/pdf/cspa4_30_08.pdf
 
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Age concern

Below is what I have posted before on this forum on this topic.
It will help you to know the background and do the math I guess.

There is new development on this as far as FB GCs are concerned (below), but things might change for better for DVs also, keep an eye on future developments. The fair thing to do imo for DVs is if the parents come to US and file for i-130 in the same FY (best is give them 2 yrs or least Sep 30+ 6mos) then let the 21+ kids keep parents' DV priority date for his/her FB GC.

Read here
http://lawandborder.com/?p=1801
(see last para)

http://lawandborder.com/?p=2334

Best!

THIS IS NOT RELEVANT IN THIS CASE, It refers only to people who immigrated through FAMILY-SPONSORED PREFERENCE PETITION Any other news or updates in this law for the DV lottery winners ? :)
 
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