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Dv 2014 european winers here

i really hope it goes up with large numbers , im cs eu46xxx , im realy trying not to lose hope, hoping for a miracle.
Is a current september really out of question?
Geko, All the best for you, a positive surprise (higher EU CN number) may happen, EU Current September, on the other hand, I personally just can not see, however great this would be...
 
I just wanted to say thank you to all and share my interview experience.

I passed the interview today in Yerevan, Armenia. Well, everything was smooth, but they requested for a photo copy of my passport and military record. So, just in case bring all the photo copies of original documents. After I passed the interview the guy gave me the original documents I have submitted and asked to bring my passport and military record back with photo copies and mentioned that they could do a copy themselves, but it will cost 1$ per page and it doesn't make sense to pay that much, since it costs about 2 cents in my country and he did't even ask if I agree or not to pay the price :D

He also mentioned that everything else is OK and that they will call me after the visa is ready to be picked up.

So I went out and came back within half an hour with the required copies and submitted for inclusion into my case.

Now in ceac my status is set to AP, hope it won't slow down the process.

Thanks!
 
I just wanted to say thank you to all and share my interview experience.

I passed the interview today in Yerevan, Armenia. Well, everything was smooth, but they requested for a photo copy of my passport and military record. So, just in case bring all the photo copies of original documents. After I passed the interview the guy gave me the original documents I have submitted and asked to bring my passport and military record back with photo copies and mentioned that they could do a copy themselves, but it will cost 1$ per page and it doesn't make sense to pay that much, since it costs about 2 cents in my country and he did't even ask if I agree or not to pay the price :D

He also mentioned that everything else is OK and that they will call me after the visa is ready to be picked up.

So I went out and came back within half an hour with the required copies and submitted for inclusion into my case.

Now in ceac my status is set to AP, hope it won't slow down the process.

Thanks!

AP showing briefly after the CP interview is normal - nothing to worry about.
 
Hello everyone (especially to Britsimon),

Despite the fact that i do have temporary visa, i am not willing to live in the USA due to my conditions have changed in Turkey.

Do you think that returning my green card can lead to potantial issues in the future while obtaining tourist visa for the USA ?

And i will go to California this August to see what happens in the USA, should I need to any spesific process except UCSIS fee ?

Thank you all, again.

Regards.
 
Hello everyone (especially to Britsimon),

Despite the fact that i do have temporary visa, i am not willing to live in the USA due to my conditions have changed in Turkey.

Do you think that returning my green card can lead to potantial issues in the future while obtaining tourist visa for the USA ?

And i will go to California this August to see what happens in the USA, should I need to any spesific process except UCSIS fee ?

Thank you all, again.

Regards.

Hi Fanarin,

If I understand you correctly you attended the interview and have the 551 visa stamp, but have not yet entered the USA - correct? At this point you are not a Green Card holder (LPR). Your visa and documents would be reviewed when you enter the USA - and from that point you would be a LPR - with all the rights and obligations. Then you would pay your fee to get the GC itself.

However, if you have now decided against taking up your chance the first most obvious thing would be to NOT enter the US within the 6 months you have been given to enter to activate your LPR status. So - the August US entry might confuse things. If you are sure you do not want to be a US LPR, I personally would not even go. As it stands you will be in their system (expected to process your paperwork), so entering and either not processing the paperwork OR processing the paperwork both seem like complications. Is the August trip within the 6 months? Can you postpone the trip?
 
Hello everyone (especially to Britsimon),

Despite the fact that i do have temporary visa, [...]

I guess you haven't had the interview yet, right? If you pass the interview and a DV immigration visa is issued to you, then all your existing non-immigrant visas will be cancelled without prejudice. It was my case, they cancelled both B1/B2 and H1B visas I have had.
 
Hi Fanarin,

If I understand you correctly you attended the interview and have the 551 visa stamp, but have not yet entered the USA - correct? At this point you are not a Green Card holder (LPR). Your visa and documents would be reviewed when you enter the USA - and from that point you would be a LPR - with all the rights and obligations. Then you would pay your fee to get the GC itself.

However, if you have now decided against taking up your chance the first most obvious thing would be to NOT enter the US within the 6 months you have been given to enter to activate your LPR status. So - the August US entry might confuse things. If you are sure you do not want to be a US LPR, I personally would not even go. As it stands you will be in their system (expected to process your paperwork), so entering and either not processing the paperwork OR processing the paperwork both seem like complications. Is the August trip within the 6 months? Can you postpone the trip?

I agree with this.

If you are not sure if you want to move, and go in August, get a green card and then decide not to live there - then returning it would be a better way of not having trouble with visas in the future (rather than simply letting it lapse).

If you know you do not want to use it for sure - in your case I would contact the embassy now and tell them that. At the very least this frees up a visa number for someone else; and again it would probably lead to less questions if you do apply for a tourist visa in future - same as with voluntarily handing in a green card - having on your file "I had the chance to immigrate and turned it down" pretty much shows you will not have immigrant intent when you apply for a tourist visa.
 
I agree with this.

If you are not sure if you want to move, and go in August, get a green card and then decide not to live there - then returning it would be a better way of not having trouble with visas in the future (rather than simply letting it lapse).

If you know you do not want to use it for sure - in your case I would contact the embassy now and tell them that. At the very least this frees up a visa number for someone else; and again it would probably lead to less questions if you do apply for a tourist visa in future - same as with voluntarily handing in a green card - having on your file "I had the chance to immigrate and turned it down" pretty much shows you will not have immigrant intent when you apply for a tourist visa.


Good points.
 
I agree with this.

If you are not sure if you want to move, and go in August, get a green card and then decide not to live there - then returning it would be a better way of not having trouble with visas in the future (rather than simply letting it lapse).

If you know you do not want to use it for sure - in your case I would contact the embassy now and tell them that. At the very least this frees up a visa number for someone else; and again it would probably lead to less questions if you do apply for a tourist visa in future - same as with voluntarily handing in a green card - having on your file "I had the chance to immigrate and turned it down" pretty much shows you will not have immigrant intent when you apply for a tourist visa.

Thank you so much for your replies.
Yes, i have attended the interview and my visa has been issued.

Well, actually i am sure (inspite turning that chance still confuses me) but i have made almost 700-800 dollars for GC interview including medical tests, postage , etc, as you know. Therefore, i dont want to pay extra for tourist visa and so on.

I dont know, really.
 
Thank you so much for your replies.
Yes, i have attended the interview and my visa has been issued.

Well, actually i am sure (inspite turning that chance still confuses me) but i have made almost 700-800 dollars for GC interview including medical tests, postage , etc, as you know. Therefore, i dont want to pay extra for tourist visa and so on.

I dont know, really.
Well, fanarin, I am sure this is all rather inconvenient for you, money and all... Yet, please remember that you now hold one of the few, rather precious DV visa numbers (hoping, in fact, that it was just one number) and are not planning to use them - an opportunity lost for somebody else who truly might have needed them. Surely, plans do change, yet I have to say that any future temporary visa issues you may possibly facing will meet with limited sympathy on this forum. In fact, I would be interested how you will explain this to an US official, good luck.
 
Well, fanarin, I am sure this is all rather inconvenient for you, money and all... Yet, please remember that you now hold one of the few, rather precious DV visa numbers (hoping, in fact, that it was just one number) and are not planning to use them - an opportunity lost for somebody else who truly might have needed them. Surely, plans do change, yet I have to say that any future temporary visa issues you may possibly facing will meet with limited sympathy on this forum. In fact, I would be interested how you will explain this to an US official, good luck.

Sure, i can do that. I believe that there are hundreds of people who have a higher CN than i have, therefore i may take my visa back and apply for a tourist visa before i go for a language course in August.

I hope it wont lead to any issues while in process.

Thank you.
 
Sure, i can do that. I believe that there are hundreds of people who have a higher CN than i have, therefore i may take my visa back and apply for a tourist visa before i go for a language course in August.

I hope it wont lead to any issues while in process.

Thank you.
Your are welcome. Sure, there are probably thousands of people behind you, waiting patiently in line to get a chance for a DV 2014 visa number. Yours has been issued and, most likely, the visa number is therefore used up and won't go back in the September pool. Anyway, no bad feelings, personal plans may change, just a pity you could not find this out before the visa interview, of course. You may want to take a few minutes and read this forum once September numbers come out beginning of next month and draw your own conclusions - just a suggestion... Your potential future "temporary visa issues" may then seem rather small and unimportant in comparison.
 
Your are welcome. Sure, there are probably thousands of people behind you, waiting patiently in line to get a chance for a DV 2014 visa number. Yours has been issued and, most likely, the visa number is therefore used up and won't go back in the September pool. Anyway, no bad feelings, personal plans may change, just a pity you could not find this out before the visa interview, of course. You may want to take a few minutes and read this forum once September numbers come out beginning of next month and draw your own conclusions - just a suggestion... Your potential future "temporary visa issues" may then seem rather small and unimportant in comparison.

I am not a magician or destiny changer here.
It was my luck, i won somehow.

(If it's meant to be) Someone else has a chance despite his/her higher CN, i am sure that God have plans for him/her also.
I have come here to receive some ideas regarding my question marks.
Neither me nor anyone have mandatory to do "ethical" actions, such as you proposed. Its up to him/her give a chance to someone else, but i am quite against the idea of "its a pity, you should, it'd be better"

No need to take this matter further. I have received what i need thank you for comments and suggestions.

Regards.
 
Your are welcome. Sure, there are probably thousands of people behind you, waiting patiently in line to get a chance for a DV 2014 visa number. Yours has been issued and, most likely, the visa number is therefore used up and won't go back in the September pool. Anyway, no bad feelings, personal plans may change, just a pity you could not find this out before the visa interview, of course. You may want to take a few minutes and read this forum once September numbers come out beginning of next month and draw your own conclusions - just a suggestion... Your potential future "temporary visa issues" may then seem rather small and unimportant in comparison.

Actually, I've seen a couple of the embassy websites say that if people will not use their immigrant visas to let them know precisely so that the numbers can go back in the pool - which is why I said that earlier.
 
I am not a magician or destiny changer here.
It was my luck, i won somehow.

(If it's meant to be) Someone else has a chance despite his/her higher CN, i am sure that God have plans for him/her also.
I have come here to receive some ideas regarding my question marks.
Neither me nor anyone have mandatory to do "ethical" actions, such as you proposed. Its up to him/her give a chance to someone else, but i am quite against the idea of "its a pity, you should, it'd be better"

No need to take this matter further. I have received what i need thank you for comments and suggestions.

Regards.

You are also aware I presume that as soon as you become a green card holder you are liable to submit a tax return to the IRS for that tax year, even if you live elsewhere and (probably) won't need to pay any actual tax if you are not there that long. There is a separate green card revocation form to go to the IRS. I do believe they won't issue visas to people who are not 100% with any IRS obligations. Using an immigrant visa as a tourist visa can indeed be complicated.
 
You are also aware I presume that as soon as you become a green card holder you are liable to submit a tax return to the IRS for that tax year, even if you live elsewhere and (probably) won't need to pay any actual tax if you are not there that long. There is a separate green card revocation form to go to the IRS. I do believe they won't issue visas to people who are not 100% with any IRS obligations. Using an immigrant visa as a tourist visa can indeed be complicated.

I know dear Susie, recent pages i have read tremendous sentence.
Two things are certain. Death and Taxes (IRS).
Therefore, IRS is an another reason which lead to turn down green card rights before i get to the USA.
 
I know dear Susie, recent pages i have read tremendous sentence.
Two things are certain. Death and Taxes (IRS).
Therefore, IRS is an another reason which lead to turn down green card rights before i get to the USA.

So.... if you are sure... stop complaining about people trying to force you to be ethical and do the right thing and do it now so someone else gets a chance.
 
You are also aware I presume that as soon as you become a green card holder you are liable to submit a tax return to the IRS for that tax year, even if you live elsewhere and (probably) won't need to pay any actual tax if you are not there that long. There is a separate green card revocation form to go to the IRS. I do believe they won't issue visas to people who are not 100% with any IRS obligations. Using an immigrant visa as a tourist visa can indeed be complicated.

How does this work exactly, when someone activates his LPR status in say Sep 2014 by entering the US on one or two initial trips to arrange things or attend job interviews, after which they return to their homeland, before taking up permanent residence in the US in early 2015? Do they have to report and file on salary income and interest income that relate to the period of taking up the actual permanent residence in 2015? What period of the year does the federal tax return relate to, i.e. Jan 1 to Dec 31? And when is the latest date for filing? (I heard many mention an April 15 deadline, not sure). - Thanks :)
 
How does this work exactly, when someone activates his LPR status in say Sep 2014 by entering the US on one or two initial trips to arrange things or attend job interviews, after which they return to their homeland, before taking up permanent residence in the US in early 2015? Do they have to report and file on salary income and interest income that relate to the period of taking up the actual permanent residence in 2015? What period of the year does the federal tax return relate to, i.e. Jan 1 to Dec 31? And when is the latest date for filing? (I heard many mention an April 15 deadline, not sure). - Thanks :)

Yes it's on the IRS website...tax year is calendar year...submission date is 15 April but you can get an automatic (you need to apply but you will get it) 6-month extension for things like being out the country at the time it's due. For your first year as LPR you file a dual return as both non-resident and resident. But I really would suggest you go through the stuff on the IRS website about this, it will give you more & more reliable detail than here.
 
Thanks, Susie. I will investigte. I actually made a typo in my post...I meant to say:

Do they have to report and file on salary income and interest income that relate to the period PRIOR TO (not: of) taking up the actual permanent residence in 2015?

But yeah...I guess some sort of dual status return would be applicable...to me it's just a difference between simply activating the GC vs. taking up permanent residence, when it comes to the question of what to report and file and at what point a FEIE comes into play. Moreover, I think FEIE does only apply to incomes like salary, but not for interest earned or other forms of passive income (ex: rental income).
It's all so complicated, and it's all just for the lack of a simple residence based taxation like the rest of the world.
 
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