Just as I said, Current is used for DV lottery purposes a little differently.
DV 2014 Europe Winner-High Case Number
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my statment mean if there are 33000 winners from europ does mean thier numbres suppose to be less than 33000 may be someone has CN 40000 or 70000 and VB will tell them when is there case will be due
http://books.google.com/books?id=Wl...A#v=onepage&q="current means" lottery&f=false
Raevsky,
Check page 97 of this book. It clearly explains what "Current" means and how everyone with a CN becomes eligible for an interview regardless of their ranking. I still have not seen any evidence on why this year is different. Please feel free to share any proof so your statements are backed up.
I don't claim this is the final answer but your explanation is far from being satisfactory.
Raevsky,
Check page 97 of this book. It clearly explains what "Current" means and how everyone with a CN becomes eligible for an interview regardless of their ranking. I still have not seen any evidence on why this year is different. Please feel free to share any proof so your statements are backed up.
I don't claim this is the final answer but your explanation is far from being satisfactory.
Yes, this explanation (in the book) contradicts facts. That is why it is not the right explanation. It is not working the way it is supposed to work
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What I have a proof of is that open EU numbers stop before 30800. There are no open EU numbers higher than 30800 in DV-2013. You cannot fit 33088 winners into 30800 numbers even if there are no holes there. Did you get it this time?
sorry sir excuse my under standing but from where you got the number 30800 for EU and the winner 33088 can you explain ??
sorry sir i have stop now becuase arguing with you is useless and you are not adding any usefull help for any one her you just want to keep talking and talking about your theroies and you don't understand the system at all sorry
I believe I saw somewhere someone claiming that a person on a Russian forum had a number of 31XXX which means that CNs above that 30 800 are open as well. I don't know exactly up to which number but I wonder how do you do? How u got this number? 30 800? And why would there be people claiming having this number of 31XXX if your theory is true?
Guys I wouldnt argue with Raevsky... guy has been around for some time and he does know his stuff... This DV 2014 is very different from others we had... EU never had such massive case numbers in may, this indicates there will be no other draw in October or whatever it was last time....
And the hidden numbers theory which you all seem to be accusing is absolutely correct, remember they select 100 000 winners out of who only 50 000 will have a chance to win maybe even less because of additional visas required for families. If 1 application wins with family of 10, thats -10 visas out of 50 000 potty...
And the hidden numbers theory which you all seem to be accusing is absolutely correct, remember they select 100 000 winners out of who only 50 000 will have a chance to win maybe even less because of additional visas required for families. If 1 application wins with family of 10, thats -10 visas out of 50 000 potty...
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Well regards to the FACTS he states, ok I wouldn't argue, but sometimes he only gives his OPINIONS which are not necessarily and not always true. He can be wrong sometimes u know. We don't need to follow anyone's statements blindly just because they try to know things better than the rest. only time will tell what's gonna happen and at this point we can only guess and nobody is either right or wrong. Until raevsky presents some facts to support his arguments I or anyone else here can choose whether to believe in what he says or not.
Give a link, that would be highly appreciated.
Simple.
Here is a nice tool.
https://ceac.state.gov/CEACStatTracker/Status.aspx
You put a number, like 2013 EU1, and you get an answer. Not all consulates are in the system though, so the information is not complete. Howeverm it is more than enough information to determine there cannot be any numbers higher than 30800 for EU.
Here is complete printout of what the tools gives between 30000 and 31000:
Number Full Number Status Fam Cons Diff
'EU' 30033 '2013EU30033' 'Ready' 2 'NPL' 41
'EU' 30046 '2013EU30046' 'Ready' 4 'SKO' 13
'EU' 30051 '2013EU30051' 'Ready' 2 'MDD' 5
'EU' 30067 '2013EU30067' 'Ready' 1 'FRN' 16
'EU' 30078 '2013EU30078' 'Ready' 1 'SOF' 11
'EU' 30096 '2013EU30096' 'Ready' 1 'TBL' 18
'EU' 30101 '2013EU30101' 'Ready' 1 'WRW' 5
'EU' 30103 '2013EU30103' 'Ready' 4 'SOF' 2
'EU' 30112 '2013EU30112' 'Ready' 1 'JRS' 9
'EU' 30124 '2013EU30124' 'Ready' 1 'WRW' 12
'EU' 30134 '2013EU30134' 'Ready' 3 'ANK' 10
'EU' 30153 '2013EU30153' 'Ready' 1 'BLG' 19
'EU' 30159 '2013EU30159' 'Administrative Processing' 2 'MOS' 6
'EU' 30160 '2013EU30160' 'Ready' 1 'WRW' 1
'EU' 30162 '2013EU30162' 'Ready' 1 'PRS' 2
'EU' 30165 '2013EU30165' 'Ready' 5 'SKO' 3
'EU' 30188 '2013EU30188' 'Ready' 6 'ANK' 23
'EU' 30189 '2013EU30189' 'Ready' 2 'SOF' 1
'EU' 30190 '2013EU30190' 'Ready' 1 'ANK' 1
'EU' 30196 '2013EU30196' 'Ready' 1 'NPL' 6
'EU' 30218 '2013EU30218' 'Ready' 1 'FRN' 22
'EU' 30228 '2013EU30228' 'Ready' 1 'NPL' 10
'EU' 30233 '2013EU30233' 'Ready' 1 'WRW' 5
'EU' 30240 '2013EU30240' 'Ready' 2 'WRW' 7
'EU' 30252 '2013EU30252' 'Ready' 4 'KEV' 12
'EU' 30294 '2013EU30294' 'Ready' 4 'FRN' 42
'EU' 30306 '2013EU30306' 'Ready' 1 'WRW' 12
'EU' 30323 '2013EU30323' 'Ready' 3 'TBL' 17
'EU' 30328 '2013EU30328' 'Ready' 1 'ANK' 5
'EU' 30346 '2013EU30346' 'Ready' 2 'LND' 18
'EU' 30347 '2013EU30347' 'Ready' 2 'ATH' 1
'EU' 30372 '2013EU30372' 'Ready' 3 'MTL' 25
'EU' 30380 '2013EU30380' 'Ready' 1 'WRW' 8
'EU' 30383 '2013EU30383' 'Ready' 2 'TIA' 3
'EU' 30407 '2013EU30407' 'Ready' 4 'FRN' 24
'EU' 30433 '2013EU30433' 'Ready' 3 'MOS' 26
'EU' 30461 '2013EU30461' 'Ready' 3 'TIA' 28
'EU' 30487 '2013EU30487' 'Ready' 4 'MOS' 26
'EU' 30514 '2013EU30514' 'Ready' 2 'WRW' 27
'EU' 30522 '2013EU30522' 'Ready' 1 'FRN' 8
'EU' 30527 '2013EU30527' 'Ready' 1 'BCH' 5
'EU' 30530 '2013EU30530' 'Administrative Processing' 2 'MOS' 3
'EU' 30531 '2013EU30531' 'Ready' 2 'BLG' 1
'EU' 30532 '2013EU30532' 'Ready' 1 'TBL' 1
The tools does not give anything after 30532, but should if there are numbers under 31000. The difference between 31000 and 30532 is 468, 11 times larger than the largest difference (42) between consequtive numbers (30294 - 30252 = 42, that is maximum so far)
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I agree. The process may gave changed this year and maybe the entire process was changed and they will still be able to accommodate all these winners and still be current at the end of FY14. This is unknown. That is why I keep asking for evidence for all these theories. They have been doing this quite some time and I find it hard to believe they are changing the process with Legal concerns this year. Wouldn't that be admission of guilt for any of the previous years they didn't notify all winners? I think State Department is doing what it says it is doing and they don't have a secret agenda. If the majority of these winners have zero chances of getting interviews this year they would not have been selected and notified in the first place. Or the State Department would have published changes in DV14 instructions to notify all concerned to adjust the expectations. And dealing with all the additional paperwork they will have to process when they are probably short staffed due to cuts in government spending is another issue they would have.
Please share any evidence to the contrary as you are the one claiming the entire process has changed without any publications or notifications which is highly unlikely in my opinion.
So, you guys accept that DV-2013 had hidden numbers for Europe. That is already something. I thought some of you guys are brain dead (the gang that wanted to hijack discussions in this group blindly denied all logical arguments and showed all possible symptoms of brain death). Looks like this is not so hopeless. Now you agree hidden numbers are there.
Net step is to see that I estimated the maximum hidden number for Europe as 56000-57000 in DV-2012 and DV-2013. Look for my posts starting May 2012 about that.
Now we have a random coincidence - the maximum number for Europe is about 54000. Pretty close to my calculations for those 2 years.
Net step is to see that I estimated the maximum hidden number for Europe as 56000-57000 in DV-2012 and DV-2013. Look for my posts starting May 2012 about that.
Now we have a random coincidence - the maximum number for Europe is about 54000. Pretty close to my calculations for those 2 years.
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i was searching for the forum on which I saw that post just to make sure i saw right but I couldn't find it. It was right after I found out I was selected and I searched for so many posts on google at that time that I have no idea where I saw that one but I remembered it right away cause I wanted to see if there were any numbers larger than that one but it was 31XXX the greatest saw. And it wasn't the bearer of the number who wrote that but someone else who said that they saw it so that person can be wrong yes. I really don't know. Anyway this link u gave me doesn't have my number in it. It says 'invalid number'. I don't understand all these calculations and stuff sorry but i remember clearly that ur calculations were wrong for determining which numbers were additionally selected and u were wrong so u could be wrong on this one too. It doesn't matter about EU DV 2013 open numbers now anyway. What really bothers me is making people sad claiming they won't get a chance for an interview in 2014 again based on ur theories and logic and calculation. I learnt that when it comes to lottery some things are all about luck and surprise!
isn't 42x11 462? please explain consecutive numbers? I trying to understand ur math better before saying ur wrong cause we're not here to fight but help each other and we can only if we understand what the other is saying. And how u got 42 x6 i mean why exactly 6?
