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http://www.quora.com/Visas/What-hap...h-as-B1-B2-J1-or-H1B-stamp-in-a-U-S-consulate
Visas: What happens behind the
scenes when you apply for a U.S.
visa (such as B1/B2, J1, or H1B)
stamp in a U.S. consulate?
I'm really curious to know what
exactly happens when one applies
for visa in a U.S. consulate (in
Canada or India for example). Why
some people have to go through
additional administrative process,
and why the process could take so
long? Why do they repeat the
administrative process again if you
leave the country for even one day?
Why no one cares about all the
complaints of people who are stuck
out of the country away from their
loved ones? (Just search google for
"221g administrative processing
canada" for example!)
2 Answers
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14 votes by Anonymous, Shahid
Hussain, Oktie Hassanzadeh, (more)
Administrative processing, officially
referred to as Security Advisory
Opinion (SAO), could be a most
frustrating process for US visa
applicants. The Office of the
Secretary of State for Visa Services
maintains, though, that it is a
necessary process for sifting out
terrorists, spies, and unscrupulous
people that illegally transfer
sensitive ************. It also claims
it only affects 2% of applicants, so if
you're unlucky to be chosen, be
prepared to wait 12-360 days for a
response, which might be a
revocation of your previously
approved visa. Most times, though,
you would be approved.
What they do during administrative
processing is pretty much
background checks. Based on your
background, application data or,
specifically, nationality, you will be
assigned one or more categories or
class:
Visas Mantis: (potential illegal
transfer of sensitive technology)
Visas Bear (for foreign government
officials, representatives to
international organizations, and
their families)
Visas Donkey (name hits, certain
nationalities)
Visas Merlin (for refugees and
asylees)
Visas Eagle (certain nationals of
Cuba, China, Russia, Iran, Vietnam)
Visas Condor (certain nationalities
e.g Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain,
Djibouti, Egypt, Eritrea, Indonesia,
Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait,
Lebanon, Libya, Malaysia, Morocco,
Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia,
Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia,
Turkey, the United Arab
Emirates,Yemen.)
Visas Hawk (for immigrant visas).
Visas Horse (diplomatic visa holders
of certain nationalities)
Visas Pegasus (officials of
Commonwealth of Independent
States)
Afterward, your information is
forwarded to the pertinent agencies
for a very thorough check-- mostly
FBI. Others could be CIA, DEA, U.S.
Department of Commerce,
Department of Treasury's Office of
Foreign Assets Control, Interpol, and
the Department of State's Bureau of
International Security and
Nonproliferation.
This is where the delay really occurs.
If everything goes well, you can have
your approved visa in as little as
three weeks, but if there is a
problem of any sort, a delay could
be anything from 30days to 360days.
The most painful part is that you
dont know exactly how long it's
going to take, and there are no step
by step updates, so you are stuck in
a timeless time of waiting. Here are
some reasons for delay:
1. Errors in the visa submission : The
US Embassy from the country you
are applying might mistakenly
submit your information in a wrong
format (different from what the
agencies want), so the agency
returns the data to the embassy.
This obviously prolongs the security
check and approval process. This
situation happens every now and
then, but it seems that the various
agencies are working to standardize
the submission format, which would
help reduce such mistakes.
2. False Hits(Especially for Visas
Mantis and Visas Condor): If your
name matches that of someone on
the FBI's (or any other agency's) list,
you will be subjected to more
scrutiny till you are either cleared or
marked as a concern to security.
Imagine if you are from a country
with many identical names, this
process will take much longer for
you, and this accounts for most of
the average processing time
differences across various countries.
3. Visa Burden: If you apply at a
peak time, when a lot of people are
seeking to travel, this process will
obviously take much longer. The
agencies do not have enough
personnel to deal with the spike, so
they just do the best they can.
Sometimes there are even backlogs,
and this is why some people dont
get their visas for more than a year.
More so, the agencies prioritize
certain visa classes, therefore when
there is an overload, certain
requests are sidelined. For example,
the FBI prioritizes Visas Condor and
Visas Mantis.
4. Hits: If your name and
information submitted by the
Embassy matches the one in any
agency's database, then you might
want to forget about traveling any
time soon because they will resort to
fetching as much information as they
possibly could. This would take a
long time since they might have to
request information from other non-
related sources-- sometimes this
could require judicial approval. In
addition, some agencies are yet to
centralize their information storage
systems, which means that it could
be necessary to request
paper files from branch offices. If
you are considered a security threat,
the agency will write a security
advisory opinion on you and then
send it back to the State for Visa
Services, who then revokes your visa.
Below is an chart (from wikipedia)
that shows how a Visa Mantis is
processed:
The biggest problem of the waiting
process is that you do not have any
access to the nature of the delay.
You could call the consular a million
times, and they would say the same
exact thing-- "your application is
undergoing administrative
processing..." While the reasons of
establishing such procedure is
understandable, it seems inhumane
to put people in the prison of time
just because they want to travel to
the United States-- mostly to add to
economic or/and intellectual growth
of the nation. It is thus evident that
the US government, especially in the
context of this problem, is yet to
realize the delicate balance between
securing borders and opening doors.
Is the government aware of the
pains this process causes to
applicants (See https://
openhomelandsecurity.ide... )?
Apparently, they are aware, and they
say they are working towards a faster
and better system-- although they
admit that it will always be thorough
and thus protracted. But the good
news is that there are signs of
improvement. The agencies and
State for Visa Services are working
towards a more efficient partnership
in order to streamline the process.
The agencies are hiring more
personnel and upgrading their
technology tools to meet the
demand for visa checks. Hopefully,
things will get better in the coming
years.
However, it is important for visa
applicants to apply well ahead of
their intended travel date if
possible. This gives some cushion for
the time required for the processing
just in case such applicants are
picked. And for those who are stuck
in the timeless time of
administrative processing, I
encourage them to remain hopeful,
and in unusually long cases, consult
an attorney, contact a senator, or an
organization such as the
International Visa Office for
individuals in the scientific
community (including students)
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http://sites.nationalacademies.org/
PGA/biso/visas/PGA_048017>