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Dv 2012

How do you know that if someone apply twice then he is banned for LIFETIME? I thought only for the current dv lottery and not for lifetime... Maybe I am wrong but I have never read such a thing ... However it is totally unfair someone to be banned for a lifetime...
 
How do you know that if someone apply twice then he is banned for LIFETIME? I thought only for the current dv lottery and not for lifetime... Maybe I am wrong but I have never read such a thing ... However it is totally unfair someone to be banned for a lifetime...

I read somewhere, i think it was on the us ambassy website, let me find the link
 
How do you know that if someone apply twice then he is banned for LIFETIME? I thought only for the current dv lottery and not for lifetime... Maybe I am wrong but I have never read such a thing ... However it is totally unfair someone to be banned for a lifetime...

How many times per year may I apply for the diversity lottery?

The rules on this are very strict: ONLY ONCE PER YEAR. Any duplicate entry found will automatically disqualify all applications.
prousavisa.org/green-card/green-card-lottery-program-faqs.html


Now with respect to the multiple applications, our review identified a significant number of duplicate applications in the DV program based on a completely paper process at that time. Currently, the penalty for duplicate entry is disqualification for the year that the duplicate submission is detected. It does not disqualify someone for future years. OIG recommended that CA propose changes to the Immigration and Nationality Act to bar permanently from future DV lotteries all adults identified as filing multiple applications. Under section 212(a)(6)(C) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, persons are ineligible for a visa based on fraud or willful material misrepresentations.
commdocs.house.gov/committees/judiciary/hju21780.000/hju21780_0.html
 
How do you know that if someone apply twice then he is banned for LIFETIME? I thought only for the current dv lottery and not for lifetime... Maybe I am wrong but I have never read such a thing ... However it is totally unfair someone to be banned for a lifetime...
This is correct. You will be disqualified permanently. It's indicated on the official website under DV-2012 instructions-Frequently Asked Questions. Also an incorrect photo can disqualify you.http://travel.state.gov/pdf/1318-DV2012Instructions-ENGL.pdf
 
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It doesn't say nowhere permanently but only for the current year.
"Multiple submissions will disqualify the entry for that person for DV-2012."
 
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It doesn't say nowhere permanently but only for the current year.
"Multiple submissions will disqualify the entry for that person for DV-2012."

The information highlighted in bold below was cut and paste from the official DV-2012 instructions. The word 'Permanently' is self-explanatory. Why would they permanently maintain an electronic record for disqualified entries?

IS EACH APPLICANT LIMITED TO ONLY ONE ENTRY DURING THE ANNUAL E-DV REGISTRATION PERIOD?

Yes, the law allows only one entry by or for each person during each registration period. Individuals for whom more than one entry is submitted will be disqualified. The Department of State will employ sophisticated technology and other means to identify individuals who submit multiple entries during the registration period. People submitting more than one entry will be disqualified, and an electronic record will be permanently maintained by the Department of State. Individuals may apply for the program each year during the regular registration period.
 
Or maybe you are just baned from participating.... Keep in mind that 1 illegitimate entry disqualify you for the lottery & also get you ban for life from participying the lottery (double entry, can happen, sometimes you forget that you allready applied or you think your aplication wans't submited so you repost it) ...

& to thoses who bring the 0.1% chance.. May i know from where do you get thoses?
First, we do not all have the same chance at all, African born have the "best chances" of winning followed by the europeans (80% of all the visas go to europe & Africa), & even if we had all the same chance wich is wrong, doing simple math will show that we have not 0.1 but 0.52% of winning...
If that could cheer you up here some facts : among the 19 millions entries, a lot of them were disqualified for illegitimate entries so in reality, you don't compete against all the entry but only against all the "valid ones"... Many peoples are baned but don't even know it... For instance, for the 2011 edition, 86.83% Nigerian entrants and 86.45% Bangladeshi entrants were disqualified during selection process because of illegitimate entries (but thoses numbers are not show in the statistics, they just show the aplication submited), thoses ones are banned for life but don't necessarely know it.
One last thing, for thoses who aplied from a third party, you never know what thoses third parties (mostly website telling you it will increase your chance of winning), they can just got you banned, like placing duplicate entry thus disqualifying you for life & you just don't know it & keep applying... There is a reason while (if it's true) that many many first timer get the visa... Because they haven't be banned like many other who just don't know it

This makes sense to me. The Department of State has to put strict rules in place to make the lottery fair across the board. Persons think that they can submit multiple entries, bad photos and get away with it. So once a person does this, in my opinion, I believe that their sophisticated computer would reject them and perhaps store them a recycle bin/folder even if their entry was submitted successfully. Like jayo2k have said, you will not know this and they will never inform you because a clear warning was given in their instructions. Sorry for those who haven't read the instructions carefully.
 
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The information highlighted in bold below was cut and paste from the official DV-2012 instructions. The word 'Permanently' is self-explanatory. Why would they permanently maintain an electronic record for disqualified entries?

IS EACH APPLICANT LIMITED TO ONLY ONE ENTRY DURING THE ANNUAL E-DV REGISTRATION PERIOD?

Yes, the law allows only one entry by or for each person during each registration period. Individuals for whom more than one entry is submitted will be disqualified. The Department of State will employ sophisticated technology and other means to identify individuals who submit multiple entries during the registration period. People submitting more than one entry will be disqualified, and an electronic record will be permanently maintained by the Department of State. Individuals may apply for the program each year during the regular registration period.

Now I know the outcome for Sunday :( . I submitted my first application in 2005 and a friend told me he also applied for me that year. I thought I was just disqualified for that year, but this is maybe the reason why I haven't been selected for 5 years.
 
Now I know the outcome for Sunday :( . I submitted my first application in 2005 and a friend told me he also applied for me that year. I thought I was just disqualified for that year, but this is maybe the reason why I haven't been selected for 5 years.

Why the sad face?

The instructions say nothing of being disqualified for life. It says a permanent record will be maintained, what is done with that record is just speculation at this point. I'm certain persons have submitted 2 entries by mistake, but I also believe if they win they will have a chance to explain this if the permanent record is pulled. I think this is mostly to catch habitual offenders who submit multiple entries every year.

cheer up Boer.
 
Why the sad face?

The instructions say nothing of being disqualified for life. It says a permanent record will be maintained, what is done with that record is just speculation at this point. I'm certain persons have submitted 2 entries by mistake, but I also believe if they win they will have a chance to explain this if the permanent record is pulled. I think this is mostly to catch habitual offenders who submit multiple entries every year.

cheer up Boer.

True, it's not worth the worry. The outcome will be the outcome and life goes on.

2 More days.

Good luck everyone!!!

:)
 
Why the sad face?

The instructions say nothing of being disqualified for life. It says a permanent record will be maintained, what is done with that record is just speculation at this point. I'm certain persons have submitted 2 entries by mistake, but I also believe if they win they will have a chance to explain this if the permanent record is pulled. I think this is mostly to catch habitual offenders who submit multiple entries every year.

cheer up Boer.

My question is: what is the purpose of maintaining a permanent record of multiple entries? IMO, it's not fair if persons for e.g. submits 100 applications for his/her self and win. So that is why they have to be strict with this rule to keep it fair across the board. Therefore, these ones won't have a chance to explain because they would have already been disqualified. This explains why the waiting period to know the results takes 6 months (i.e they are checking everything). Well, we shall see if this rule proves true come May 1st.
 
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True, it's not worth the worry. The outcome will be the outcome and life goes on. ,


@Boer, Agreed. Even those who have only submitted 1 entry will be disappointed on May 1st...All the best, regardless of the results!!
 
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Thats why I believe this rule is unfair. What if a friend apply for you without your permission and you just re-apply?
I agree that this person must be disqualified but for the current year only.
Boer don't worry. I believe everything is gonna be o.k!!! :D
 
Thats why I believe this rule is unfair. What if a friend apply for you without your permission and you just re-apply?
I agree that this person must be disqualified but for the current year only.
Boer don't worry. I believe everything is gonna be o.k!!! :D

one question; why would a friend ever apply for you without telling you? They will tell you that this is a lame excuse sorry, like your friend will be like "i will apply for Francis but this will be his birthday present so won't tell..." then he get one of your ID pictures & also know all of your personals info like "where were you born..." I have lot é lot of friend that i don't even know where were they born...
& secondly; have you ever heard of that saying "If you want something done, do it yourself"..
I'm not saying that all the first timer will win, i'm saying that first timer should not tempt the devil, I know it is tempting to cheat but don't do it...
 
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To ALL awaiting DV successful candidate for the year 2012,I pray that you will smile and celebrate on this forum IJN,AMEN!!
 
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