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As for my fast question, This person was treated by the court where the military judge has given a decision that this person must pay 3000 Egyptian pound and will not be asked to serve in army anymore(that is because he just turned 30 years old(that is the Egyptian law, no one can do his military service after age 30)).
I do not know. Anyway, if his only punishment was a fine, and the charge was not service in the army, and he paid it, he is not disqualified from a visa. The court decision will be his proof that he has not served.

Don't periphrase my words, I doubt that there are 90% of fraud from Nigeria, I don't see any reasons for these people to send so many fake applications since they are already know that they would be disqualified for that.
They are not sending them. Middlemen send them for those people without their knowledge. Several middlemen for each person.

So if following your logic that means if I had registered at some random agency site (like USAFIS or whatever) and left my private information there (like date of birth, level of education) but didn't left any picture because I decided to join lottery by myself in a legal way. They can just send an application with my info and picture of a dog and both of applications would be disqualified for that?
That depends on the middlemen. Some of them could. However, if you had 2 entries, one of them with your pictur, and another one with a picture of a dog, only one will be disqualified - the one with the dog. But I am sure it will be in fact disqualified.


They can simply do that because I didn't pay to them and to make a higher chance for their clients to win.
If a company is registered in the US, that is not possible. That is why the one you mentioned could not do that.


Is it there fraud comes from? It's not so hard to get a private information of people, but I don't see why would they disqualify entries before the draw for that.
Not before, but as a part of the draw.Duplicates are eliminated as a part of the draw.

Fraud comes from steeling private information and using it. You buy it from local passport stores and just use. Then you find the person who won and sell him his win.
 
Yes, you evern don't need to steal it since you have random agencies sites there people leave their private info by themselves. That is how it works.
If you give it to one agency, others would not know. It is not in the interests of this one to sell it to others.
 
because it's in their interests to make a higher chance for anouther submittants (their clients).
They do not have to disclose correct statistics. They could disclose no statistics, they could also disclose incorrect statistics. They just cannot claim they have higher probability that if you submit directly
 
90% of fraud from Nigeria, it's not like some nigerian little boy searching around for the information and trying to submit it.
You have an online agencys sites for that - people provide this information to you by themselves. But later decide to play by their own, this agencys still sending applications for these people to make a higher chance for others.
They aren't doing that to disclose the statistics but for their clients have more higher opportunity to win.
No, it looks different

http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/Edson04052011.pdf
Fraud by applicants includes:
- Multiple applications to increase the chances of winning
- Fraudulent claims to high school education
- Pop-up spouses. These are wives or husbands who appear on the case between the time of initial registration and the time of visa interview, usually because the successful lottery winner has sold the privilege of applying for a visa as spouse to the highest bidder. Sometimes the applicant is a victim of pressure from third party agents, who will use coercion to force the applicant to claim a fraudulent marriage so that the agent may sell the benefit of applying as spouse on the visa application.
- Add-on children. Like spouses, added on after registration, either by claiming new births, children of a former marriage now in custody of the
applicant or other excuse. As with spouses, sometimes applicants are forced to accept these add-on children against their will.
- False claims to employment or financial support in the US. Of course any immigrant may falsify their financial support documents, but this problem is particularly acute in the case of Diversity Visa applicants as they are not required to have relatives or established employers in the United States.

Fraud and abuse by third parties is just as prevalent.
- Consular officers have seen cases of collusion with post office officials so that notifications to winners of the lottery or either stolen and used by someone else or held hostage until the applicant pays for the release of the documentation.
- Just as commonly, unfortunately, the applicant may be extorted throughout the process. In other words, not just forced to pay for the release of their initial documents, but forced to pay criminal gangs in order to be allowed to complete their application. Again, this problem occurs to a limited extent with other visa categories as well, but because Diversity Visa applicants do not require relatives in the US and may be of relatively low education and employment status, they are particularly vulnerable.
- Nor is this sort of abuse limited to applicants who chose to enter the Diversity Visa program. Consular officers have also seen unscrupulous agents enroll groups of people without their knowledge. In Bangladesh, for example, one agent is reported to have enrolled an entire phone book so that he could then either extort money from winning applicants who had never entered the program to begin with or sell their winning slots to others.

Pretty much obvious how it is done. Bangladeshi and Nigerian way you could do even 99% on entries without entrant's knowing it.
 
C'mon, do you believe to the internet articles?
Are you crazy?
This is not an internet article. It is a congressional testimony of Acting Manager Director of Visa Services, Bureau of Consular Affairs
 
This is the person to whom all consulates report. Giving testimony for a congressional subcommittee
 
From here travel.state.gov/pdf/TotalDVApplicantsbyCountry.pdf
(you should look just at the first core, don't pay attention to derivatives)

Thanks for sharing this link..amazing to see this list by country!

Have another silly question that I am sure has been asked before: Out of the 50,000 DV visas available per year, do family and children (derivatives) use up some of the 50,000 or are they not counted in this limit and therefore the total visas (including family and children) per year is actually much higher than 50,000?
 
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