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Kayan

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Hello. I'm a newbie and found this website through a lot of googling so I hope I can get some help.

My brother won the DV2014 Lottery and plans to immigrate with his wife and two boys. He has a daughter from a previous marriage who currently resides with her mum. They aren't on good terms and she doesn't let him see the girl as much as he likes. Anyway to make a long story short he doesn't want to include the daughter in the question where it says to LIST ALL children under 21.

I advised him not to do this but he doesn't think it will be a problem. He said he doesn't want to deal with his ex-wife getting a chance to immigrate to America and following him there.

What are the chances of USCIS finding out about this?

Thanks in advance.
 
It will be a problem if he doesnt list her, it would be guaranteed disqualification...
 
Even if he goes past USCIS for some time... if it gets discovered in USA that he lied to get green-card he will be deported with about 10 year ban on entry...
 
Lazder said:
It will be a problem if he doesnt list her, it would be guaranteed disqualification...
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If he did not list her in his lottery entry, he'll get into trouble. Question is not if but when.

If he did list her in the lottery, but doesn't want her to get a GC, then all he needs to do is not to send a DS-230 for her. But he still needs to list her in his own DS-230.

That's my understanding.
 
aos13 said:
If he did not list her in his lottery entry, he'll get into trouble. Question is not if but when.

If he did list her in the lottery, but doesn't want her to get a GC, then all he needs to do is not to send a DS-230 for her. But he still needs to list her in his own DS-230.

That's my understanding.
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basically this, if he hasnt listed her in application to lottery... he is in very serious trouble, if he has... just dont send DS-230 for her and she wont get the visa... but you must list her as your child.
 
Lazder said:
basically this, if he hasnt listed her in application to lottery... he is in very serious trouble, if he has... just dont send DS-230 for her and she wont get the visa... but you must list her as your child.
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I believe that's exactly what I said. :)
 
Can it come up if he was put on AP? I was reading a lot of threads on here where DV applicants were put on AP after their interview.

I will tell him what you guys said, thanks for the input.
 
It has nothing to do with AP. He'll need to submit divorce papers for application, and the question will come up. And if he lies, he'll be in big trouble. It will be only a matter of time before they eventually find out, when her daughter applies for any visa now or in the future.
 
aos13 said:
It has nothing to do with AP. He'll need to submit divorce papers for application, and the question will come up. And if he lies, he'll be in big trouble. It will be only a matter of time before they eventually find out, when her daughter applies for any visa now or in the future.
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I just told him that and he said he's not even submitting his divorce papers!!
 
Kayan said:
I just told him that and he said he's not even submitting his divorce papers!!
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Then tell him to start praying that her daughter never applies for any US visa ever. And if his ex-wife somehow finds out he won the lottery and moved to US, she'll have one remarkable opportunity to screw him up. Good luck.
 
Some people... Why go to such great lengths to screw up... I mean if they find out in 10 years... and he already has US citizenship by that time.. he will be deported or face jail sentence in USA for fraud.

Very stupid decision in my opinion... Is he from Eastern Europe or something?? It seems our people think nothing will catch them out if they lie.

Its not even a good reason to screw up your life about... If he doesnt want to, his daugther wont get the GC, that can be achieved in many ways... He can enter US without her for 1st time and that will already screw up her GC... Not that thats needed.. all he needs is not to send ds-230 for her... that is all.
 
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Kayan said:
I just told him that and he said he's not even submitting his divorce papers!!
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Your brother is basically giving his ex the opportunity to hold on to his balls, and if he somehow succeeds with his interview now and gets the GC, but she finds out later, I will encourage the ex to squeeze da heck outta those balls (excuse my language). Right now, by not listing his daughter because he doesn't want the ex to benefit from his 'good fortunes', he's not hurting his ex in my opinion, it's his daughter he's hurting in the process and he's simply giving the her mother the opportunity to mess with his future. So he should go ahead and not ackowledge the daughter in his filings.
 
Sm1smom said:
Your brother is basically giving his ex the opportunity to hold on to his balls, and if he somehow succeeds with his interview now and gets the GC, but she finds out later, I will encourage the ex to squeeze da heck outta those balls (excuse my language). Right now, by not listing his daughter because he doesn't want the ex to benefit from his 'good fortunes', he's not hurting his ex in my opinion, it's his daughter he's hurting in the process and he's simply giving the her mother the opportunity to mess with his future. So he should go ahead and not ackowledge the daughter in his filings.
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He thinks by not listing their daughter as a child he will cut chances for his ex to come to USA.. In fact she will have massive leverage over him, great opportunity to terrorize because 1 email or phone call would ruin his life. All he is doing is hurting himself far more than his ex... Even if your daugther did get GC it would take very long time for your ex to achieve gc through relatives...

This is a lose-lose situation for your brother... nothing to win here at all... literally 0
 
Lazder said:
He thinks by not listing their daughter as a child he will cut chances for his ex to come to USA.. In fact she will have massive leverage over him, great opportunity to terrorize because 1 email or phone call would ruin his life. All he is doing is hurting himself far more than his ex... Even if your daugther did get GC it would take very long time for your ex to achieve gc through relatives...

This is a lose-lose situation for your brother... nothing to win here at all... literally 0
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Yeah that is the funny part, ex would not benefit from his GC anyways. Even if the daughter gets a GC which she cannot because he is being a dick, her mother could not gc in 10 years. :rolleyes:
 
So your brother wants to cut off his nose to spite his face? Let him do it. I just feel sorry for his kids for the huge opportunity their father is robbing them of.
 
I also have problem related to the ds-230.
I have done a present address error of ds-230, can i correct it at the interview??
Now I have police report + sponsor letter to correct address.
This may be a big issue for the visa???
 
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