Do I lose F1 benefits if I apply for AOS?

piggaloo

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Dear all,

I'm an F1 student married to a USC, and I just applied for AOS through the DORA program in Dallas. I've looked for previous threads related to my question, but was unable to find definitive information, so please, please bear with me.

I recently told the immigration specialist at my school about my USCIS interview and she asked to see the I-551 stamp in my passport. Maybe it's because I didn't submit a Form I-765 with the rest of my I-485 package, but the USCIS officer put no such stamp in my passport. At the interview I was simply told I would soon get a receipt number and a date for my FP appointment in the mail, and then I could apply for my EAD if I should so choose. Now my school official is saying she will have to discontinue my stipend and benefits because she believes I've fallen out of F1 status. She talked to an attorney (one who does not specialize in family-based applicants that are also F1 students) and she was told I was no longer in F1 status and therefore had no work authorization and therefore could no longer be on the payroll. But my stipend actually comes from a non-service grant. Technically speaking, it's not compensation for work. It doesn't get reported on a W2, and it has no connection to wages received in return for services. It's simply a scholarship meant to help out with living expenses while I pursue my studies. In any event, the school official advised me to speak to an immigration attorney, which I did. He said applying for AOS does not invalidate my F1 status, but if I applied for a renewal F1 visa, or tried re-entering the US on my current visa, I would probably be rejected because I had already shown intent to immigrate. He said otherwise my current F1 status should continue uninterrupted. (He gave the example of two former F1 clients who had married USCs, applied for AOS, gotten divorced, withdrawn their AOS applications, and continued on as F1 students without interruption.)

Meanwhile, the school official did some further research of her own and concluded that this is a gray area. She found conflicting statements from the government on the subject and decided there was enough evidence to suggest I could keep getting paid. Even so, to me the situation and her decision seem tentative at best. (She's still expecting to hear from a third attorney whose opinion she trusts.) I read in one thread from October 2006 that this is indeed a gray zone, and there's no clear policy on the subject, but the "mainstream opinion" is in favor of letting students in my situation hold on to their F1 benefits.

Could anyone please tell me if this is indeed the case? If so, how can I convince her that this is in fact the mainstream opinion and tip the scales in my favor? Losing my stipend and benefits, even for three months (assuming that's really how long it takes to get my GC), would be an absolute, unadulterated disaster. I had no idea I could be getting myself in this sort of trouble when I applied. I would greatly appreciate any and every feedback you may have.

Thank you in advance for your time and your help.
 
I recently told the immigration specialist at my school about my USCIS interview and she asked to see the I-551 stamp in my passport.

This so-called "specialist" is unaware that the I-551 stamp is only granted when permanent residency is approved.

Could anyone please tell me if this is indeed the case? If so, how can I convince her that this is in fact the mainstream opinion and tip the scales in my favor?

AOS application in and of itself is not a violation of F1 status. There's very little that we can do to "persuade" this so-called advisor, only that if you are terminated, you should file a wrongful termination and civil rights lawsuit against the school, and the advisor if possible. You should work with your immigration attorney to find an employment attorney who will work with your immigration attorney to do so, and inform the university of this possibility.
 
Hi!

I am not a lawyer, but I was in a F-1 visa until this tuesday, when I had my interview and I was approved. I had the same question that you are having when I first applied for AOS (April). I think that legally your F-1 visa it cancelled, but I kept working as a Research Assistant in my university. In the interview the officer asked me how I was paying for my studies and I told her that I was working in the university as a research assistant. (I was really worried that she was going to say something about it). But nothing happenned. I was approved, and she told me that the F-1 visa was cancelled and she wrote something on it. I would tell you not to worry about it, but again I am not a lawyer.

Good luck! and I hope that everything goes ok!!!
 
Hi!

I am not a lawyer, but I was in a F-1 visa until this tuesday, when I had my interview and I was approved. I had the same question that you are having when I first applied for AOS (April). I think that legally your F-1 visa it cancelled, but I kept working as a Research Assistant in my university. In the interview the officer asked me how I was paying for my studies and I told her that I was working in the university as a research assistant. (I was really worried that she was going to say something about it). But nothing happenned. I was approved, and she told me that the F-1 visa was cancelled and she wrote something on it. I would tell you not to worry about it, but again I am not a lawyer.

Good luck! and I hope that everything goes ok!!!

I think once you apply to adjust your status (file I-485) your F-1 visa is useless. This is what my international student services advisor told me. once you file I-485 you are entitled to pay in-state tuition (this should be checked by your schools registrar.
I think they usually write on your F-1 "expired without prejudice"
good luck
IS
 
I believe the key point here is not your visa. Your visa is indeed invalidated, and you can not apply for a new one, as you have shown immigrant intent.

But you are NOT out of status, because your visa is cancelled or expired... your status is not determined by your visa, but by your I-94... which should say "expiration D/S" (D/S = Duration of Status) which means that for as long as you remain studying and keep to the guidelines of maintaining your F-1 status you are fine.

I would think, that the only way you would be out of status is IF you stop studying or do anything else to loose status based on the F-1 visa (even if it is expired).

You status as a student (F-1) depends on you studying, your status as legally present in the US now depends on your AOS (I-485). Yes, your visa is cancelled, but you are STILL in status with USCIS.

That means, they can not rightfully terminate your benefits, because you have not fallen out of status, and even if you do fall out of status and can not longer study. You are no out of legal presence status... because of your pending I-485.

That is my 2 cents. :cool:
 
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Thanks to all who responded to my inquiry. I met with the school official today, and she told me I would be kept on the payroll because she believes my case would be defensible if this ever went to court. It doesn't make me feel entirely safe, but at least I get to keep my benefits for now. What is your opinion on applying for EAD? Should I apply as soon as I have my receipt number, or wait to see if I get my GC in the promised 90 days? I ask because I'm not sure the school official won't change her mind down the road based on something she hears from a different source.

Thanks again for your invaluable feedback.
 
You get more benefits applying for AOS. You don't have to deal with school to find a job or get EAD. So why worry about F1? I was in the same shoes when applied for AOS, and was very pleased not to deal with school. As long as you are in status, you shouldn't worry about it.
 
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