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http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11428
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11428
DC Rally
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Immigration Voice (http://www.immigrationvoice.org) is a non profit grassroots advocacy group working to alleviate the issues of Highly Skilled Foreign Workers who are stuck in the Employment Based Green Card Process stuck in Bureaucratic Logjams.
Immigration Voice is conducting a peaceful rally in Washington DC on September 13th, 2007 (Thursday).
You can/must participate in the rally if
(1) You are in various stages of the Green Card Process
(2) Belong to a retrogressed group
(3) Highly Skilled worker (Physicans, Engineers on h1b visa, J1 Waiver, L1 etc..) and planning to apply/already applied for a Green Card
(4) If you already have a Green Card or a Citizen, you can provide support and encouragement
Please make it a point to attend the rally. Please invite your friends, relatives, co workers, colleagues etc….to the Rally. Please spread this message through mailing lists, media contacts, Orkut and other social networking media. If you are students, please send this email to various student organizations. If you work for companies, please send this message to managers, co workers, employers etc…
If you are not already a member at Immigration Voice. Please become a member today. It is easy and free.
Please follow this link for more details on the Rally http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11428
A lot of people may be wondering why should we even bother about this.
Some FAQs
(1) What’s all this? Immigration Voice, rally etc… Why should I care a damn?
a. There is a political angle to issues that we are all facing. The system was designed long back and has not been very flexible. No one has made attempts to fix the mess and vote bank politics are creating further mess.
(2) Why no one talks about these things?
a. The nature of this issue is very complex in nature. Unless one falls into this pit, the nature of this issue cannot be understood
b. A lot of people do not want to handle the truth and reality
c. Perception – without looking at the real picture, lot of people assume things are fine
(3) Why should I take these issues seriously, my lawyer will take care of these?
a. Immigration lawyers assist and handle thee paperwork, this mess is beyond their control or scope or even the scope of USCIS and related government agencies
b. Immigration lawyers are your service providers and you are their client, they will talk only business to you, there is no need for them to explain to you the mess you are in
(4) After the July visa bulletin fiasco, I did submit my 485 petition, and I will get an EAD/AP so why must I bother?
a. EAD/AP were designed to be interim benefits (only for few months until someone can get a Green Card), their usage has limitations and will lead to further issues
b. Severe retrogression will hit in coming fiscal years. India, China, Mexico, Phillipines, Eb3, and eb2, and RWO eb3 will all be affected, pleasse refer to the following link http://www.bibdaily.com/pdfs/Jan Pederson 8-2-07.pdf
c. Anti immigration lobby is targeting H1b tech workers, at the same time a lot of lobbying organizations are working hard to make the system unworkable for eg.. Durbin Grassley amendments may appear anytime
d. Until you get a Green Card in Hand, EAD is not the best viable alternative for work and AP is definitely not the best travel document.
(5) Why Immigration Voice? What is the agenda?
a. Immigration Voice is the only grass root organization working hard on these issues
b. Immigration Voice’s earlier campaigns were a huge success and did send signals to government agencies and law makers
So why not start working on helping yourself and helping your fellow immigrants?
Please spread the message, and take active interest in the events.
Immigration Voice is conducting a peaceful rally in Washington DC on September 13th, 2007 (Thursday).
You can/must participate in the rally if
(1) You are in various stages of the Green Card Process
(2) Belong to a retrogressed group
(3) Highly Skilled worker (Physicans, Engineers on h1b visa, J1 Waiver, L1 etc..) and planning to apply/already applied for a Green Card
(4) If you already have a Green Card or a Citizen, you can provide support and encouragement
Please make it a point to attend the rally. Please invite your friends, relatives, co workers, colleagues etc….to the Rally. Please spread this message through mailing lists, media contacts, Orkut and other social networking media. If you are students, please send this email to various student organizations. If you work for companies, please send this message to managers, co workers, employers etc…
If you are not already a member at Immigration Voice. Please become a member today. It is easy and free.
Please follow this link for more details on the Rally http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11428
A lot of people may be wondering why should we even bother about this.
Some FAQs
(1) What’s all this? Immigration Voice, rally etc… Why should I care a damn?
a. There is a political angle to issues that we are all facing. The system was designed long back and has not been very flexible. No one has made attempts to fix the mess and vote bank politics are creating further mess.
(2) Why no one talks about these things?
a. The nature of this issue is very complex in nature. Unless one falls into this pit, the nature of this issue cannot be understood
b. A lot of people do not want to handle the truth and reality
c. Perception – without looking at the real picture, lot of people assume things are fine
(3) Why should I take these issues seriously, my lawyer will take care of these?
a. Immigration lawyers assist and handle thee paperwork, this mess is beyond their control or scope or even the scope of USCIS and related government agencies
b. Immigration lawyers are your service providers and you are their client, they will talk only business to you, there is no need for them to explain to you the mess you are in
(4) After the July visa bulletin fiasco, I did submit my 485 petition, and I will get an EAD/AP so why must I bother?
a. EAD/AP were designed to be interim benefits (only for few months until someone can get a Green Card), their usage has limitations and will lead to further issues
b. Severe retrogression will hit in coming fiscal years. India, China, Mexico, Phillipines, Eb3, and eb2, and RWO eb3 will all be affected, pleasse refer to the following link http://www.bibdaily.com/pdfs/Jan Pederson 8-2-07.pdf
c. Anti immigration lobby is targeting H1b tech workers, at the same time a lot of lobbying organizations are working hard to make the system unworkable for eg.. Durbin Grassley amendments may appear anytime
d. Until you get a Green Card in Hand, EAD is not the best viable alternative for work and AP is definitely not the best travel document.
(5) Why Immigration Voice? What is the agenda?
a. Immigration Voice is the only grass root organization working hard on these issues
b. Immigration Voice’s earlier campaigns were a huge success and did send signals to government agencies and law makers
So why not start working on helping yourself and helping your fellow immigrants?
Please spread the message, and take active interest in the events.
IV is non profit grassroots advocacy group ...BUT
I agree IV is a non-Profit Org and working for a great cause,
but I personally feel,This Non-Profit Org is not at all welcoming to the users.
The reason I made the above statement is, frequently one group of people (people who contributed some money) talk low about the others ( who are YET to contribute).
The way I understand it is “ A Non-Profit Organization” is a "Non-Profit Organization" PERIOD. You don’t see any NPO bashing people for not contributing MONEY.
No one can deny the fact that IV is working for a selfless cause, but it doesn’t mean that every Tom, Dick and Harry who contributed some money have the right to speak low about the others on NPOs public forums.
Take this scenario for example, a member registers/joins IV seeking some basic Information and on front page he/she finds this Thread “90% of member in this form are free rider”
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12079
How welcoming/appealing is this discussion on a “Non –Profit Org’s” front page?
even if one is capable/willing to contribute some amount, the above thread and subsequent comments will drive away the potential contributors. (Well, you might say we don't care about such members who doesn't want to contribute MONEY) this kind of attutude is what I'm talking about which will drive away potential contributors, and this kind of attitude is often seen on the public forums of IV.
Its not just this instance but you can find such comments all over and surprisingly "Senior Members" add some fuel to such discussions.
I completely agree, for the efforts that IV is putting in, It needs LOT of funds/resources.
But there is always a proper/professional way to achieve that.
What surprises me is why don’t IV see KNOWLEDGE contribution as a contribution?
There are many people out there with plethora of knowledge on Immigration issues who are willing to answer complicated issues on IV , but they are driven away by non-professional silly comments made in general.
I’m not anti IV or anything like that, In fact I appreciate the selfless efforts put in by all the members to bring up such a nice organization. I feel bad that IV should not lose its reputation on silly things like above.
I say, All the Best IV. --Great Org for a greater cause
I agree IV is a non-Profit Org and working for a great cause,
but I personally feel,This Non-Profit Org is not at all welcoming to the users.
The reason I made the above statement is, frequently one group of people (people who contributed some money) talk low about the others ( who are YET to contribute).
The way I understand it is “ A Non-Profit Organization” is a "Non-Profit Organization" PERIOD. You don’t see any NPO bashing people for not contributing MONEY.
No one can deny the fact that IV is working for a selfless cause, but it doesn’t mean that every Tom, Dick and Harry who contributed some money have the right to speak low about the others on NPOs public forums.
Take this scenario for example, a member registers/joins IV seeking some basic Information and on front page he/she finds this Thread “90% of member in this form are free rider”
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12079
How welcoming/appealing is this discussion on a “Non –Profit Org’s” front page?
even if one is capable/willing to contribute some amount, the above thread and subsequent comments will drive away the potential contributors. (Well, you might say we don't care about such members who doesn't want to contribute MONEY) this kind of attutude is what I'm talking about which will drive away potential contributors, and this kind of attitude is often seen on the public forums of IV.
Its not just this instance but you can find such comments all over and surprisingly "Senior Members" add some fuel to such discussions.
I completely agree, for the efforts that IV is putting in, It needs LOT of funds/resources.
But there is always a proper/professional way to achieve that.
What surprises me is why don’t IV see KNOWLEDGE contribution as a contribution?
There are many people out there with plethora of knowledge on Immigration issues who are willing to answer complicated issues on IV , but they are driven away by non-professional silly comments made in general.
I’m not anti IV or anything like that, In fact I appreciate the selfless efforts put in by all the members to bring up such a nice organization. I feel bad that IV should not lose its reputation on silly things like above.
I say, All the Best IV. --Great Org for a greater cause
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I agree IV is a non-Profit Org and working for a great cause,
but I personally feel,This Non-Profit Org is not at all welcoming to the users.
The reason I made the above statement is, frequently one group of people (people who contributed some money) talk low about the others ( who are YET to contribute).
The way I understand it is “ A Non-Profit Organization” is a "Non-Profit Organization" PERIOD. You don’t see any NPO bashing people for not contributing MONEY.
No one can deny the fact that IV is working for a selfless cause, but it doesn’t mean that every Tom, Dick and Harry who contributed some money have the right to speak low about the others on NPOs public forums.
Take this scenario for example, a member registers/joins IV seeking some basic Information and on front page he/she finds this Thread “90% of member in this form are free rider”
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12079
How welcoming/appealing is this discussion on a “Non –Profit Org’s” front page?
even if one is capable/willing to contribute some amount, the above thread and subsequent comments will drive away the potential contributors. (Well, you might say we don't care about such members who doesn't want to contribute MONEY) this kind of attutude is what I'm talking about which will drive away potential contributors, and this kind of attitude is often seen on the public forums of IV.
Its not just this instance but you can find such comments all over and surprisingly "Senior Members" add some fuel to such discussions.
I completely agree, for the efforts that IV is putting in, It needs LOT of funds/resources.
But there is always a proper/professional way to achieve that.
What surprises me is why don’t IV see KNOWLEDGE contribution as a contribution?
There are many people out there with plethora of knowledge on Immigration issues who are willing to answer complicated issues on IV , but they are driven away by non-professional silly comments made in general.
I’m not anti IV or anything like that, In fact I appreciate the selfless efforts put in by all the members to bring up such a nice organization. I feel bad that IV should not lose its reputation on silly things like above.
I say, All the Best IV. --Great Org for a greater cause
You can contribute with ur knowledge. I apologize on behalf of IV if there was any inconvinience caused. Please come back to IV and help us