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Cutoff numbers for March 2014 visa bulletin (contains April Cutoffs)

I don't think KCC will wait for the last 2 months to push the button. The latest should be July and they still have 2 months to go for rest of Asia. So, May cut off will tell us something if the progress increase to 1.5k or more. I think they will put more and more visa slot for the remaining months and that will actually push Nepal into special cut off (if Nepal still getting 40% of selectees). Apr cut off already increase it progress by almost double from 625 to 1025 CN increased, so that might be the sign of AS going to start the acceleration.

Agreed.
 
I don't think KCC will wait for the last 2 months to push the button. The latest should be July and they still have 2 months to go for rest of Asia. So, May cut off will tell us something if the progress increase to 1.5k or more. I think they will put more and more visa slot for the remaining months and that will actually push Nepal into special cut off (if Nepal still getting 40% of selectees). Apr cut off already increase it progress by almost double from 625 to 1025 CN increased, so that might be the sign of AS going to start the acceleration.
Your opinion may be right.But within these three months(may,june and july) VB must touch around 12k so that nepalese will receive around 3700 visas.If this can happen in reality remaining two months will be fruitful for Asian nations except Nepal and Iran.For this purpose average of 2200 number should increase in coming three months!
 
Your opinion may be right.But within these three months(may,june and july) VB must touch around 12k so that nepalese will receive around 3700 visas.If this can happen in reality remaining two months will be fruitful for Asian nations except Nepal and Iran.For this purpose average of 2200 number should increase in coming three months!

you are absolutely right, it seemed that the line up of 2nd half datum level is satisfactory of this queer dv 014 especially for AS region. the upcoming tri-months must jump the cutoff upto 12k with the increment of more than 2k so that the other regions from AS will gotta chance in a couple of month whatever the cases. If Iran and nepal fill their quotas then the sedimented case numbers from Nepal and Iran and other countries will have a chance and can expect an massive # greater than 5k!!!
 
There are two other threads covering these numbers which we were able to obtain yesterday. However, some people are still asking and we need the summary - so here it is.

EU – 25400
-- Uzbekistan 14750
AS - 5350
SA - 1140
OC - 900
AF - 30,000
-- Egypt 22850
-- Nigeria 11600
-- Note – Ethiopia Country cutoff removed.


This information was compiled from several people making the phonecalls to KCC - so thanks all that did that and then took the time to post the results in the forum. Again - the members of this forum are doing an amazing job of informing, supporting and helping each other - the VAST majority in good humour!

My analysis and thoughts of those numbers?
EU and SA continue to make good progress. AS region had a pretty good jump considering there was no limit placed on Nepal or Iran. In AF the 30k number was a big surprise (lower than anyone predicted). Nice jump for Ethiopia and Egypt, Nigeria still running slow. OC region is horribly slow, and perhaps the biggest surprise of the 5 regions given their increase in quota.


Hi Britsimon,
kindly advise what do u think abt our CN AF95XXX DRC, are we going to be called for an interview??
 
Hi Britsimon,
kindly advise what do u think abt our CN AF95XXX DRC, are we going to be called for an interview??

That number is not sure sure either way - you have a good chance for an interview but it is not certain. All you can do is wait and see what happens. You will find out whether you will get an interview or not about mid July.
 
As a Turkish citizen, i think i dont have to pay tax for the USA ?

Yes dear Simon 100% legitimate income from Google Admob.

Thank you for your answers dear Vlad and Simon. Shall I show all of my balances or just receiving banking account from admob + 30 k ?

Sure you will be paying full taxes to the US on your non-taxed income in Turkey, given certain circumstances. Britsimon's response is exactly right (See below).
You can also not hide (some of) the non-taxed income in Turkey and only report a 'pro forma' small income in your US tax filing, as they will likely find this out and then you'd be up for penalties starting (!) at $10,000 imposed on you for not filing or incorrect filing.


Well if you become an LPR in the USA this year they will expect a tax return to be filed in the USA - and that will have to account for any income you earn, anywhere in the world. If you have paid tax on that income in Turkey, then you might not have further tax to pay in the US, but you still have to account for it. Also, if, one you are an LPR, you have a foreign bank account with a balance that exceeds $10k at any time in the year, you have to declare that bank account account on an FBAR form. Don't underestimate these responsibilities - you do not want to get on the wrong side of the US taxman.

I know how IRS serious is. I didnt pay taxes for this income in Turkey because there is an exceptional article Turkish Tax Law which is telling that pc programmers, etc. do not have to pay tax for that income.
I am willing to translate this article to English via certified translator service and also offer them with my documents?

But of course, going to pay my taxes for earnt income if I hold a LPR

"Paying your taxes for earned income once you hold LPR status" ---> That might still include the income you already earned in Turkey at this point, so be careful to understand the rules.

btw...nice one with the income tax exemption in Turkey...so your dream of living in the USA certainly must be very strong, given that you are willing to forfeit the opportunity to be income tax exempt for up to $85,000 p.a. ....

The proceeds obtained by authors, interpreters, sculptors, calligraphers, painters, composers, computer programmers and inventors and their legal heirs, by publishing their Works such as poems, stories, novels, articles, scientific researches and studies, software, interviews, cartoons, photographs, films, video bands, radio and television scripts and plays by means of newspaper, magazine, computer, internet, radio, television and video or by selling their works in form of books, CD, floppy disc, painting, statue and musical notes and patent letters of those or by transferring and assigning or leasing their rights on those shall be excluded from personal income tax.
According to article 30/8 of draft, this exclusion is restricted. Hereinafter, if these gains owners earn 188.000 Turkish Liras [my note: that's about $85,000] or more, they have to filling return and taxed from percentage 15 to 35. And also they will have a new right: lump sum expenses. If they would like, they may benefit deduction of lump sum when they fill return.


Once you are an LPR you must comply with tax laws in both places. For example, in the UK I have had some tax free investments - no tax to pay in UK. However, those same investments would attract tax in the US...

Yes, this is what many 'defenders' of the FATCA law conveniently hide (or likely not even know). The real adverse results on real people by this oppressive and ignorant tax regime (there are an estimated 10 Mio overseas based 'US Persons' of which almost all but a handful are NOT what the USA likes to sell FACTA as to their own people (via propaganda mainstream news): 'tax-dodgers'


Again, agreed.

Then once you are an LPR you need to file every year even if you spend a whole year outside the USA (with the appropriate re-entry permit). It is THAT burden of reporting that is causing some US citizens to renounce their US citizenship because they resent the hassle of reporting if they are staying abroad permanently. I can feel OnTheGo getting his blood pressure raising even as I type this...


If you're a citizen you don't need a re-entry permit.
Yes, OTG getting his hackles raised. But people like Veronice and many others don't care because they think it's a price worth paying for living in a safe, free country.


Haha, no blood pressure raising here...we have well and truly digested this topic (yet not fully flushed down yet).

Yes, it is an IMPORTANT topic to us, and yes...as Susie tends to reiterate: Most people in desperate circumstances would of course grab hold of any better perspective, i.e. a new life somewhere - understandably. When people make posts about the oppressive tax regime of the USA, then that is a completely separate thing to that, and vice versa. So far, I have not seen anyone responding to a post where someone stated how dangerous life was in their home country, by saying they should be careful in coming to the US because they have a CBT tax system. :p

As for us, we've been on the fence for months as to whether or not we will in fact be going ahead with our GC application.

We have been leaning towards either side many times...but the more we research and learn, the less we seem to fancy a permanent move to the US, actually.

We are not in our 20's anymore ... just like Britsimon I believe. We have bank accounts, assets and pension entitlements from two different countries. I cannot say and don't want to predict as to whether or not we will be (wanting to) live in the US forever, once we'd move there. This is, as we seem to have adopted a 'global citizen' (or 'international expat') way of thinking.
What we don't like is the fact, that as soon as we activated our newly gained US LPR status, there would be immediate repercussions. We would likely be 'motivated' to close various bank accounts and sell assets beforehand in order to prevent certain tax events. We would see one or the other account be closed by the banks themselves, as is happening to millions of US persons around the world at this very moment - thanks to fascist FATCA laws.

So add to that the ridiculously inefficient, badly handled and profit oriented health care system (making cover under the 'Affordable' Care act even less affordable than before O-care, i.e. $1,000+ per month with $6k to $10k annual deductibles the norm), and other things we learned in our research, we might be stupid actually to be moving to the US permanently.

Don't get me wrong, there are STILL plenty of things that do actually EXCITE me about the prospect of living in the "land of the free" (lol, even that sounds ironic these days, haha) ...



No group is more severely impacted than U.S. persons living abroad. For those living and working in foreign countries, it is almost a given that they must report and pay tax where they live. But they must also continue to file taxes in the U.S. What’s more, U.S. reporting is based on their worldwide income, even though they are paying taxes in the country where they live.
Many can claim a foreign tax credit on their U.S. returns, but it generally does not eliminate all double taxes. These rules have long been in effect, but enforcement was historically less of a concern with expats. Today, enforcement fears are palpable.


Moreover, the annual foreign bank account reports known as FBAR forms carry civil and criminal penalties all out of proportion to tax violations. The penalties for failure to file these forms, civil and criminal, are severe. Even civil penalties can quickly consume the balance of an account.


The coup de grace is FATCA, which is ramping up now worldwide. It requires an annual Form 8938 to be filed with income tax returns for foreign assets meeting a threshold. And foreign banks are sufficiently worried about keeping the IRS happy that many simply do not want American account holders. Americans abroad can be pariahs shunned by banks for daily banking activities.
 
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Comprehensive post OTG.

I have explained to the OP by PM that I have done the sort of things you mention in terms of liquidating assets that would be taxed differently or would present compexities in terms of perceived profits etc.

One such thing was our ISA accounts in the UK. We can invest around $16k per year, per person into a tax free savings scheme (which can then be invested in various ways). The annual ISA allowance is a use it or lose it thing - and we have been using our allowance for several years, building a healthy tax free profit (similar to a pension, but with less rules about when we withdraw the money). However, the tax benefit we have in the UK would not have applied i the USA - even though we had the tax exemption in one country (similar to the Turkish programmer deal). So - we cashed those in in December - and we can not get back those annual allowances.
 
Comprehensive post OTG.

I have explained to the OP by PM that I have done the sort of things you mention in terms of liquidating assets that would be taxed differently or would present compexities in terms of perceived profits etc.






One such thing was our ISA accounts in the UK. We can invest around $16k per year, per person into a tax free savings scheme (which can then be invested in various ways). The annual ISA allowance is a use it or lose it thing - and we have been using our allowance for several years, building a healthy tax free profit (similar to a pension, but with less rules about when we withdraw the money). However, the tax benefit we have in the UK would not have applied i the USA - even though we had the tax exemption in one country (similar to the Turkish programmer deal). So - we cashed those in in December - and we can not get back those annual allowances.

Simon you seem to have researched the topic extensively so I have a quick question.

When/if ever I move to the US I'm planning to leave only one asset which would be my crib. Simply switch mortgage to "buy to let" (I think that is the requirement???) and rent the house. Not planning to make any dosh on it but just want keep adding equity and pay it off in the future.
How does that look like since it won't be real income (I will be paying debt, same model as Starbucks and Amazon use to evade taxes in the UK by claiming thy they make losses and pay off debt). Except from reporting it to the tax man will I have to pay anything on that?

Also if it's possible I would like to keep paying money into my pension fund? The Yankee bastards would want a piece of that too ??? :D

Excuse my ignorance but wth my CN I'm far from getting excited about future taxes I might have to pay :)
 
Simon you seem to have researched the topic extensively so I have a quick question.

When/if ever I move to the US I'm planning to leave only one asset which would be my crib. Simply switch mortgage to "buy to let" (I think that is the requirement???) and rent the house. Not planning to make any dosh on it but just want keep adding equity and pay it off in the future.
How does that look like since it won't be real income (I will be paying debt, same model as Starbucks and Amazon use to evade taxes in the UK by claiming thy they make losses and pay off debt). Except from reporting it to the tax man will I have to pay anything on that?

Also if it's possible I would like to keep paying money into my pension fund? The Yankee bastards would want a piece of that too ??? :D

Excuse my ignorance but wth my CN I'm far from getting excited about future taxes I might have to pay :)

Well that is a bit more complex than you might think.

First of all to rent your house out you should register as a "Non resident landlord". If you rent through an agency they are supposed to deduct basic rent tax from the rent (which is bullsh$t) because you should be able to offset interest payments prior to working out profit.

Then you have to get your head around the effect of currency exchange rates as it impacts your US tax position. If you have an interest only mortgage it is not too bad, but if you have a capital and interest (repayment) mortgage then you will be paying of some capital each month. Each time you pay capital off your mortgage the US tax man expects you to account for any exchange rate gain you might have "enjoyed" based on when you bought the house or the point at which you last remortgaged. So you compare the the exchange rate at that time with the exchange rate now and you *might* have made a gain in currency terms - on which you pay tax. In practice, doing that monthly is too complex so an accountant would probably take an annualised position on that.

By the way, you will keep your personal allowance in the UK, so you can earn some UK rental income without paying UK tax.

Pensions are recognized US/UK. So, assuming you don't have some oddball scheme yo ca keep your UK pension account and keep adding to it without any US taxman hassle. However, it is likely to be less tax advantageous to add to it in the UK than to freeze it and start a US scheme.

It is a complex subject though and just by keeping the one asset in the UK you are making it a lot more complex (read costly) from a US tax POV. However, I have decided to bit that bullet, because property prices in the UK are rising now and I want that 8-10%pa gain for a few years.

Oooh - by the way - the primary main residence UK tax thing lasts 3 years after you leave - so there is a good time window to sell the UK asset - keep it longer than 3 years and you begin to get UK CGT liabilities on the profit.
 
Cheers Bud. Comprehensive answer as always. I think by the end of your time in this forum we should build you a statue or start a charity under your name :D

I can see that you have given it more than few minutes of your time :)
Now I know what I may have to deal with. After reading your post, selling seems to be not a bad option but I have a bit of On The Go syndrome and would like to keep my options opened - meaning return to the socialist paradise as some of my republican mates call UK :) So even if I would be close to break even each year I would consider renting out our pad.

I hope I will have a chance to tackle this problem early next year.
 
hi guys,

just received 2NL as well :). 04/23/2014. It seems that they work faster as expected.

Best regards
Mike
 
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