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alathm

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Both my H & I took oath two days ago. We have a 17 year old daughter. ( plan to file N 600 on her behalf ) She is coming home for break next week. We plan to do the following while she is in town . These are our doubts regarding that
1) send N 600 application
2) apply for her passport ( Can we apply for ourselves as well at the same time along with her application or should we wait? Does anyone had done that before - applying as a family )
3) what will be her correct immigrant staus right now( GC holder or citizen ) ?
She is applying for NIH internships & that needs to be filled out . Will she be a citizen only after getting the passport ?
4) change social security status after 2 weeks ( Does our daughter also need to go & do it , if so does she need to wait untill N 600 approve ?)
5) when she gets her passport what should we do with the green card ( return that to Immigartion service or wait untill her N 600 petition approval ?)

Thanks in advance
 
Your daughter is a US citizen from the day you and your spouse took your oath. There is no legal requirement to file N-600 - simply apply for your daughter's US passport as soon as possible. For her passport you will need:
Her green card (original)
Her foreign birth certificate showing both parents' names (original)
Original certificate of naturalization of one parent.
Completed passport application form + photos + fees

You can apply for her passport at the same time when you apply for yours - certificate of naturalization is used to process parent's and child's application.

Her green card and your certificate of naturalization will be returned to you (in a separate mailing). Keep the green card as a souvenir.

Update Social security after getting her passport.

Don't waste money on N-600!
 
Thanks. She is being considered for a very coveted federal funded program. We did not want to mess up anything - we were not sure whether she should say citizen or GC holder during the interview next week . happy to know that she can claim to be a citizen.
 
nkm-oct23 said:
Your daughter is a US citizen from the day you and your spouse took your oath. There is no legal requirement to file N-600 - simply apply for your daughter's US passport as soon as possible. For her passport you will need:
Her green card (original)
Her foreign birth certificate showing both parents' names (original)
Original certificate of naturalization of one parent.
Completed passport application form + photos + fees

You can apply for her passport at the same time when you apply for yours - certificate of naturalization is used to process parent's and child's application.

Her green card and your certificate of naturalization will be returned to you (in a separate mailing). Keep the green card as a souvenir.

Update Social security after getting her passport.

Don't waste money on N-600!
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The N-600 is still useful, since the certificate is a non-expiring proof of citizenship. As has been discussed here many times, it may be difficult to get the paperwork together years down the road if the passports ever expire and are not renewed, or are lost or stolen. For that reason, getting a passpord card may also be a useful backup document.
 
alathm said:
Both my H & I took oath two days ago. We have a 17 year old daughter. ( plan to file N 600 on her behalf ) She is coming home for break next week. We plan to do the following while she is in town . These are our doubts regarding that
1) send N 600 application
2) apply for her passport ( Can we apply for ourselves as well at the same time along with her application or should we wait? Does anyone had done that before - applying as a family )
3) what will be her correct immigrant staus right now( GC holder or citizen ) ?
She is applying for NIH internships & that needs to be filled out . Will she be a citizen only after getting the passport ?
4) change social security status after 2 weeks ( Does our daughter also need to go & do it , if so does she need to wait untill N 600 approve ?)
5) when she gets her passport what should we do with the green card ( return that to Immigartion service or wait untill her N 600 petition approval ?)

Thanks in advance
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You say: "She is coming home for break next week." FROM WHERE? Overseas? That may be an issue as to the actual date of her citizenship. A 17 year old attending school away from home? Is she still in high school or a prodigy already in university? At a bording school? Living with relatives abroad in the home country? It makes a difference.
 
nkm-oct23 said:
You can apply for her passport at the same time when you apply for yours - certificate of naturalization is used to process parent's and child's application.

Her green card and your certificate of naturalization will be returned to you (in a separate mailing). Keep the green card as a souvenir.

Update Social security after getting her passport.

Don't waste money on N-600!
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I have some objections to the parts of nkm's advice that I've bolded above (only).

1. The green card is not a souvenir! It's still needed for either or both of the following:
(a) Filing N-600: The green card is required to be surrendered in exchange for the Certificate of Citizenship.
(b) Reapplying for a US passport: If N-600 is not filed and the passport is allowed to lapse, the supporting evidence, of which the green card is a crucial piece, must be resubmitted in order to apply for a new passport.

2. Individuals should determine for themselves whether or not N-600 is a waste of money. Many people, including me, consider it a prudent step that's worth the expense.
 
Basically, if you have a greencard you have to surrender it to get the Certificate. In the alternative, USCIS has a standard sworn statement for a lost or stolen card.

N-600 Regulation:
8 CFR § 341.4 Surrender of immigration documents.

Each claimant shall surrender any immigration identification and permanent resident cards in his or her possession.

N-400 Regulation:
8 CFR § 338.3 Delivery of certificates.

No Certificate of Naturalization will be delivered in any case in which the naturalized person has not surrendered his or her Permanent Resident Card to the Service. Upon a finding that the card is destroyed or otherwise unavailable, the district director may waive the surrender of the card and the Certificate of Naturalization shall then be delivered to the naturalized person.
 
she is on acclerated residential Univ program which caters to talenetd & gifted high school students ( she is in the same state half hour from our house) . The last two years of high school they spend at Univ.program will give them HS diploma with sizeable college credits . she cannot stay at home & attend the program .
 
We also think it is prudent to apply for N 600 because we plan to travel . By any chance she loses her passport, N 600 will be helpful.
 
alathm said:
We also think it is prudent to apply for N 600 because we plan to travel . By any chance she loses her passport, N 600 will be helpful.
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The passport is faster to obtain but requires more evidence without the Certificate of Citizenship. The passport card is great back up and easy to carry (wallet size--like a credit card).

The Certificate of Citizenship is "primary evidence of US Citizenship" for a passport application. This is the easiest way. It is proof of identity and citizenship, but it is not a travel document. Although it might work for a cruise or a land border crossing in an emergency situation.

Without a certificate she must submit "secondary evidence" which is her greencard, her birth certificate, her parents' naturalization certificates, her parents' marriage certificate, her parents' divorce decree (if any), her parents' custody papers concerning her (if any) OR if born out of wedlock and claiming USC through a father further evidence of physical and legal custody and legitimation and possibley DNA test results.

Apply for passports together because they require original certificates and you need to apply in person for the first one. Many post offices and town/county clerks are acceptance agents.

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_830.html
 
I think the it is an immigration case and you should properly seek some immigration expert's advice.Although the discuss is quite relevant but the professional can help you exact the appropriate way so that there will no worries for you later.
 
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