consular processing can be quick alternative to I-485 waiting

Can anybody provide us the matter for Hardship Letter?

I think maverick1976 question itself was not clear. Will just applying for I824 switch over from AOS to CP? I think not.

So far, we understood that I824 is required to go for CP. Actually I don't want to switch over. Before USCIS ask us to choose one of them our decesion should be ready.

Is there somebody who had applied for AOS and then filed for I824 and based on that receipt went for CP?
 
These are my thoughts on AC-140

After going through archives and last postings of consular processing form, I think AC-140 is the way to go as long as you can go to Mumbai or Delhi (INDIA).

Chennai, is a hardnut and does not accept AC-140 due its work load.

It is certain that Mumbai accepts your CP application for interview as long as you have a Visa with them or you last lived in their Consulate Area before leaving for US.

I'm not sure about this with New Delhi, but I hope thats true. I've not found a case yet, in this forum, may need to search again.

I've my Visa stamped from New Delhi and last lived in New Delhi before leaving for US. So I might go to New Delhi consulate though I'm from AP and come under Chennai Consulate.

Even after filing I-824, one can still continue his/her AOS, because INS is not going to stop AOS without sending a notice to the person once his/her I-824 is approved. One can decide whether he/she wants to continue his/her AOS or go for CP at that time.

CP is safer than AOS as long as one has all his/her papers in tact and follows instructions and suggestions posted in this forum.
 
to achal

Regarding the status verification, the interviewing lady looked at all my I-20s and H1-B approval notices to make sure that I didn't have any gaps in the status during my stay in the US
 
Thanks RK,

I am also from Delhi.
Do you know how long one has to be in India for the processing?
Typically how long does it take to get medicals and police clearance done in Delhi?

If anyone has recenent experience/knoweldge about an AC-140 case in Delhi, please share it.

Thanks
 
INS: Consular Processing Request (I-824) Treated as Adjustment of Status Withdrawal

From the website of "Law Offices of Carl Shusterman"

link http://shusterman.com/245-824.html
U.S. Department of Justice
Immigration and Naturalization Service

HQ70/23.1P
Office of the Executive Associate Commissioner
425 I Street NW
Washington, DC. 20536

August 8, 2000

MEMORANDUM FOR:

All Regional Directors
All Service Center Directors
All District Directors
All Officers In Charge
All Training Academies

FROM:

Michael Cronin [signed by Thomas Cook for Michael Cronin]
Acting Executive Associate Commissioner
Office of Programs

SUBJECT:

Prohibition on Concurrent Pursuit of Adjustment of Status and Consular Processing (AD00-15)



Chapter 23.2 of the Adjudicator's Field Manual, provides guidance on general adjustment of status issues. This memorandum addresses instances where a beneficiary seeks to pursue both adjustment of status and consular processing in order to ensure availability of a visa number.

In Chapter 23 of the Adjudicator's Field Manual, a new section 23.2(1) is added to read as follows:

23.2 General Adjustment of Status Issues.

Concurrent pursuit of adjustment of status and consular Processing.

(1) Background. In 1999, the Service issued policy guidance on when the filing of a Form I-824, Request for Action on an Approved Application or Petition, was appropriate. That guidance advised that a Form I-824 should be filed when the petitioner requests a change in the initial manner of processing noted on the visa petition. It has come to the Service's attention that applicants for Adjustment of Status are also using the Form I-824, or in some cases submitting a duplicate visa petition, to request concurrent consular processing.

The Office of Field Operations and the Office of Programs have reviewed the issue of concurrent pursuit of adjustment of status and consular processing and determined that concurrent pursuit would not be an efficient and effective use of the Service's resources. Further, the pursuit of concurrent filing for adjustment of status and overseas visa processing runs the risk of allocating more than one visa number to the same immigrant.

(2) Guidelines. When an alien with a pending I-485 files a Form I-824 requesting that the visa petition be forwarded to a consulate the alien or the attorney of record will be notified that the I-824 will be treated as a request to withdraw the I-485. In accordance with 8 CFR 103.2(b)(8) the notice will provide the alien a response time in which to advise the Service on how they wish to proceed. The I-485 is to be terminated by written notice if the alien chooses to pursue consular processing or fails to respond within the time granted. This notice will also advise the alien of the termination of any employment authorization granted under 8 CFR 274a.12(c)(9). The I-824 is then to be approved, and the visa petition forwarded to the National Visa Center (NVC) for processing.

Likewise, if the Service receives a "duplicate" immigrant visa petition requesting consular processing, and the alien has a pending I-485, the Service will notify the alien or the attorney of record that the duplicate petition will be treated as a request to withdraw the I-485, as above, provide a response time in which to advise the Service on how they wish to proceed. The I-485 is to be terminated by written notice if the alien wishes to pursue consular processing or fails to timely respond. This notice will advise the alien of the termination of any employment authorization granted under 8 CFR 274a.12(c)(9). The visa petition along with the duplicate is then to be forwarded to the NVC for processing.
 
From the above MEMORANDUM,

"The I-485 is to be terminated by written notice if the alien chooses to pursue consular processing or fails to respond within the time granted"

It seems the AOS will be terminated if we dont respond within the requested time or send a letter stating that we are going for Consular processing.


The catch here is with the current processing time of more than one year for I-824, with some obvious risk one can pursue consular processing with AC-140 and get the interview done even before INS touches the I-824.


Any comments...
 
Originally posted by achal
atsokbg,

I am from Mumbai(INDIA) Consular District. I will email them and ask more details.

Actually I am more concern about financial stuff. Other things are OK.

Are they checking all W2 (say last 3-4 W2)?
Are they matching those with salary mentioned in H1B?

Any input?

Hay achal
Did you get any respose back from Mumbai consulate, i am from Pune & stuck in AOS traffic & where can i find more information about CP at mumbai.
Thanks,

Gateway.
 
Hi gateway

Consular Processing Forum gives very good information about each individual consulate. good luck.
 
Re: Thanks RK,

Originally posted by WaitinginQ
I am also from Delhi.
Do you know how long one has to be in India for the processing?
Typically how long does it take to get medicals and police clearance done in Delhi?

If anyone has recenent experience/knoweldge about an AC-140 case in Delhi, please share it.

Thanks

I think one week is suffice, more info in Consular Forum, New Delhi Tracker.
 
Originally posted by rk4gc
Hi gateway

Consular Processing Forum gives very good information about each individual consulate. good luck.

Thanks, rk4gc
i will check the information on the forum.
 
Some Confusion rk4gc

Like I-485 we get A# instatntly before actual processing starts. If they do same thing for I-824 and find I-485 pending they may issue a letter stating withdraw one of them.

In that case 1 year catch is not applicable. I think what we need is somebody who has gone thru this and had withdrawn his I-485 after getting stamped/letter.

to gateway ,
Actually I was waiting for 3 things.
1. What to say for hardship
2. Search more in details from other CP forum
3. maverick1976's email.
 
In theory it all seems ok ....

but unless we don't have a set precedent , it would be very risky to file the I-824 and take my chances that the BCIS doesn't rescind my I-485 AOS application.

I know I mentioned earlier that I would write to the U.S. Consulate in Mumbai but I haven't had the time to think this over and write an email explaining my case (including the hardship).

For hardship , I was going to mention that my company has various interests overseas for offshore and nearshore projects and a lack of a Green Card inhibits my ability to contribute to my company's business interests thus affecting my career path.

The reason it worked for "atsokbg" is because the US Consulate in Bulgaria didn't require an I-824 appln. which makes this a win-win situation. The only downside is going thru more paperwork.
 
yes maverick1976

without getting I-824 clarifiaction I cannot give it a try.
I have asked this question to Administartor/Moderator . Let's hope some answer.
 
Just send an AC-140 package to the consulate

having jurisdiction over your area, with a letter explaining hardship. It does not matter much if you do not have an I-824 receipt. What do you stand to lose? A few dollars in attorney fees and some paperwork. They may at worst refuse to take up the case. On the other hand you may get an interview!

P.S.: What is the logic anyway in asking for an I-824 receipt in AC-140 cases that have a change of status application pending? How can you have an I-824 receipt and at the same time be a valid I-485 applicant. Clearly, the DOS is aware of the DHS's stance that filing of an I-824 results in the abandonment of AOS petition.
 
Attorney fees for representation

Folks,
Upon considering the options I called up a lawyer for representation on the AC-140 and the fees that they were asking was around $2500 for attorney representation(for 824+consulate+dependant). I don't know if this high/low/ok kind of fees. Any comments from people, who had an experience on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
 
Guys

I checked the chennai consulate website again now. They do not seem to ask for a I-824 receipt! whereas Mumbai consulate clearly asks for one.. Can we send just the other documents listed or is I-824 receipt a must for AC140 process..

Thanks




Originally posted by achal
yes maverick1976

without getting I-824 clarifiaction I cannot give it a try.
I have asked this question to Administartor/Moderator . Let's hope some answer.
 
Good work kumarkrish ...

but I have a few doubts about this. Did you read about the AC-I140 option in the FAQ section of the Chennai Consulate Website ?

http://madras.sphynx.com/wwwhfaq.php3?cat=4

This is simply stating that they will take up such a case. Not sure if the FAQ section has the complete list of documents needed to process an AC-I140 case ?

I think the only way to find out is to send them an email (or have your attorney's office do the same).

Please keep us posted !!
 
Re: Good work kumarkrish ...

This is what it says.. I am not sure what I-140 paperwork means? Is it just certified I-140?


If you believe that your case meets these conditions, have your attorney send certified copies of your I-140 paperwork to the Immigrant Visa Unit, U.S.
Consulate General, 220 Anna Salai, Chennai 600 006 India with
>the original I-797 Notice of Approval Form
>complete forms OF-169 and OF-230, part 1
>an e-mail address where we can contact the attorney with confirmation that we have accepted the case



Originally posted by maverick1976
but I have a few doubts about this. Did you read about the AC-I140 option in the FAQ section of the Chennai Consulate Website ?

http://madras.sphynx.com/wwwhfaq.php3?cat=4

This is simply stating that they will take up such a case. Not sure if the FAQ section has the complete list of documents needed to process an AC-I140 case ?

I think the only way to find out is to send them an email (or have your attorney's office do the same).

Please keep us posted !!
 
AC stands for Attorney Certified

I read the same in the FAQ section. If it's true , then this would be like atsokbg's case. He went to the US consulate in Bulgaria and got his immigrant visa.

If you plan to take this route with the US consulate in Chennai, do let us know. Maybe Mumbai will waive off its request for the I-824 receipt too.

http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/wwwhimmi.html#empcases
 
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