Citizenship changes to be tougher for legal Immmigrants

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By Darryl Fears
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 27, 2006; A04



The Bush administration is considering proposals that would make it tougher for legal immigrants to gain U.S. citizenship.

The proposals being drafted by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), a division of the Department of Homeland Security, could nearly double application fees, toughen the required English and history exams, and ask probing questions about an applicant's past, such as "Who is your current wife's ex-husband?"

In an interview yesterday, a USCIS spokesman said the contemplated changes are necessary to pay increased administrative costs and to standardize an application that is subjective and varies across the country.

But immigration rights advocates say the changes would amount to a second wall, a potential barrier against legal immigration that is as formidable as the newly authorized southern border fence is supposed to be against illegal migrants.

Changes in the citizenship application process are being contemplated amid a contentious debate over whether the federal government should undertake a comprehensive reform of immigration policy that includes establishing a guest worker program, or just build a barrier along the Mexican border and adopt a get-tough policy toward illegal immigrants and companies that employ them. Throughout the debate, however, opponents of illegal immigration have said their quarrel is not against immigrants who are in the country legally.

Groups such as the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights said that a near-doubling of the $400 application fee is being considered, and that the new fee would be more than legal residents who earn a minimum wage can pay. "It's going to take twice as long for those people to save up money to apply for citizenship," said Fred Tsao, policy director for the coalition. "You won't have Mom, Dad and children all going to the citizenship ceremony together. You'll have Mom going first, then Dad, then maybe the children."

Chris Bentley, a spokesman for Citizenship and Immigration Services, took issue with the coalition's talk of a twofold fee increase.

"A fee review is underway," Bentley said, "but no decision has been reached. I don't know how they came about that." He did not rule out the possibility that the fee could double, saying: "When we do the final analysis, we're going where the math takes us. We have to recoup the costs of processing these applications." Bentley noted that Congress does not appropriate money to pay the costs of processing citizenship applications.

The citizenship agency handles about 6 million to 7 million citizenship-related applications each year. About 1 million of those are N-400 applications from immigrants hoping to become naturalized American citizens.

A deluge of requests this year and last contributed to a daunting backlog of nearly 4 million applications. USCIS reported this summer that it whittled the number to about 40,000, saying it was not responsible for millions of applications that were filed improperly, had unpaid fees or awaited FBI background checks.

Bentley said the agency's chief financial officer is expected to complete his report and fee recommendations by the end of the year. Around the same time, the citizenship office is expected to complete its recommendations for standardizing the written and oral English examinations that are required for citizenship.

The office might also replace questions such as "What are the colors of the flag?" Bentley said, to "What is one of the fundamental principles protected by the Constitution?"

In recent days, concerns arose about another test -- for DNA samples. Immigration officials use the tests to verify the paternity of immigrant parents who apply to bring their children to the United States.

But lawyers recently complained that officials are starting to require the tests -- about $800 each -- even when the relationships are strongly documented by paperwork.

Immigration advocates say the costs to immigrants keep piling up. They said USCIS Director Emilio T. González seemed unsympathetic, and perhaps insensitive, when he said: "American citizenship is priceless. I think people will pay."

"It was a ridiculous statement," Tsao said.

Bentley stood by the statement of his boss, an immigrant from Cuba. "As a naturalized citizen himself, he feels his citizenship is priceless," Bentley said. "It's the greatest benefit our country can bestow, and it's a one-time fee to be a part of the greatest country in the world."
 
But they don't mention if they should reduce the waiting time from 5 years to 4 years. :mad: I believe if they can further reduce the waiting time to 3 years, many people (including me) willing to pay $2000 application fee.
 
Don't worry! This all is all "Bush Effect". When this administration leaves and next one comes in (hopefully democrats) they will follow more methodically not with this current "screw everybody" approach.
 
Thanks WANT for the nice info.
It is getting more complicated than usual since they don't know what they want. There are tons of people which can't afford anything any kind of fee like this. Family of five has to pay $4000 for citizenship. On the other hand less people want to be a citizen propbably. no one knows what is going on behinde the scene but I am getting worry about my situation. I have one more year to go for my citizenship and my wife is overseas like other people in this fourm and others, the process will take many years probably. I have no choice just waiting? I wish they could send both of us somewhere else? All Slogans which never happend at least in my life. God will bless all of us if there is somthing left to bless.

One of the co-workers in our office has filed for citizenship 6 months ago and just had done with FP and thats all.She is from one of europian countries so FBI check wouldn't take that long. No one knows what's wrong. They are not trying to fix stuff but just mess the rest of it up to have a whole messed-up part.

People please keep us updated from any news .

Want- For my GC situation and my wife, I have not got any chance to write to Senator, what should I include in my letter. Little help will be appreciated.

Regards,
Nas
 
porkman said:
But they don't mention if they should reduce the waiting time from 5 years to 4 years. :mad: I believe if they can further reduce the waiting time to 3 years, many people (including me) willing to pay $2000 application fee.


What if the reduce it to one year with the four years waiting time? Are you still willing to pay?
It's not about these, it is about to dance us around.
 
Nimche said:
Thanks WANT for the nice info.
Want- For my GC situation and my wife, I have not got any chance to write to Senator, what should I include in my letter. Little help will be appreciated.

Regards,
Nas

Well NAS it wn't help because the Senator can't change the laws. If this was about processing then he could help you but he will write back saying that the LAW says you need to wait.
 
wantmygcnow said:
Well NAS it wn't help because the Senator can't change the laws. If this was about processing then he could help you but he will write back saying that the LAW says you need to wait.

Reason I asked because I thought sentors will help to create bills or try to improve them to get it passed.

If I tell my wife she will get hearth attack (J.K.)
 
Nimche said:
Reason I asked because I thought sentors will help to create bills or try to improve them to get it passed.

If I tell my wife she will get hearth attack (J.K.)


They are not going to change the law on account of one complaint--sorry.
 
Nimche said:
Reason I asked because I thought sentors will help to create bills or try to improve them to get it passed.

If I tell my wife she will get hearth attack (J.K.)

Well one more year for you..lucky..Imagine people who need to wait 3-4 years. Immigration laws suck and I Hope democrats win the house/senate.
 
wantmygcnow said:
Immigration laws suck and I Hope democrats win the house/senate.
But remember it's Bush and his republicans who eliminated the asylee quota and hence we got our GC now. In this regard, I will always feel gratitude towards Bush.
 
porkman said:
But remember it's Bush and his republicans who eliminated the asylee quota and hence we got our GC now. In this regard, I will always feel gratitude towards Bush.

But remember that they also made it nearly impossible for asylum seekers? In the history of immigration law that passes U.S Congress, if they give you something, they take lot of it away. They gave away cap which wasn't really doing anyone any good(all asylees were technically PR's anyways)....but they made it by taking away asylum from many who need it...
 
immigration is easy under republican adminstration

it was president reagan a republican who granted amnesty to millions of illegal
immigrants in 1986

it was president bush senior who created the TBS program for nationals

from salvador, guatemala, and lebanon in 1990

it was president bush senior who granted all chinese students in america
green cards after tianmen masacare in 1989

it president bush the son who eliminated the asylee quatas


god bless president bush

and god bless the neoconservatives in his adminstration

and god bless the GOP
 
immigration is easy under republican adminstration

it was president reagan a republican who granted amnesty to millions of illegal
immigrants in 1986

it was president bush senior who created the TBS program for nationals

from salvador, guatemala, and lebanon in 1990

it was president bush senior who granted all chinese students in america
green cards after tianmen masacare in 1989

it president bush the son who eliminated the asylee quatas


god bless president bush

and god bless the neoconservatives in his adminstration

and god bless the GOP
 
porkman
I, somehow, find it hard to foget that it was the Republican Congress that passed IIRIRA. :rolleyes:
 
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Reagan had Democract congress in session. Even the current Bushie is favor of Immigraiton but the congress won't let him. Go back and look at immigration history and no Republican Congress has passed any ALL positive immigration laws.

It starts with the Congress...not the president.
 
wantmygcnow said:
Reagan had Democract congress in session. Even the current Bushie is favor of Immigraiton but the congress won't let him. Go back and look at immigration history and no Republican Congress has passed any ALL positive immigration laws.

It starts with the Congress...not the president.


Reagan had a Republican Senate and a Democratic House.

Check you history before commenting please.
 
If you guys think it really matters, think harder.

Hey WANT, a question for you.
If you remember I had filed I-730 for my wife two years ago and got denied last year. I got the deny letter in mail and that was it.
On this weekend, I had update and Emails from Cris, stating that they have received my respond to their request on July 2005 and they will process it as soon as possible and mail me the final decesion. I know that it is a computer mistake, but are they lookin at my files? Or probably they have changed their minds.(Lets give this poor guy an approval)
 
Nimche said:
If you guys think it really matters, think harder.

Hey WANT, a question for you.
If you remember I had filed I-730 for my wife two years ago and got denied last year. I got the deny letter in mail and that was it.
On this weekend, I had update and Emails from Cris, stating that they have received my respond to their request on July 2005 and they will process it as soon as possible and mail me the final decesion. I know that it is a computer mistake, but are they lookin at my files? Or probably they have changed their minds.(Lets give this poor guy an approval)


Could you tell what was the reason for denial and are you going to go to court with your wife? My friend is in the same situation. He filed for his wife I-730 about 2 years ago and still no decision.
 
Nimche said:
If you guys think it really matters, think harder.

Hey WANT, a question for you.
If you remember I had filed I-730 for my wife two years ago and got denied last year. I got the deny letter in mail and that was it.
On this weekend, I had update and Emails from Cris, stating that they have received my respond to their request on July 2005 and they will process it as soon as possible and mail me the final decesion. I know that it is a computer mistake, but are they lookin at my files? Or probably they have changed their minds.(Lets give this poor guy an approval)

It may be a mistake. I even filed for my wife(who is on h-1) here and they sent me a denial letter stating that its' over 2 years blah blah blah..but the status says that "No decision has been made". Just for fun, I even called the 1800 number asking the status of my I-730 petition and they said "we will open an inquiry for you"...

So yes its a mistake.
 
Minsk said:
Could you tell what was the reason for denial and are you going to go to court with your wife? My friend is in the same situation. He filed for his wife I-730 about 2 years ago and still no decision.

Just to answer your question, I got married after granting my refugee status.

They have updated the date on my porfolio to 10-28-2006
 
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