Charged DUI... what are the US Citizenship Application implications of this?

spark1873

New Member
Hi there, I became eligible to apply for citizenship in 09/2012. However, I was charged with a DUI in 08/2012. The case is still pending and I have not yet been convicted. I wanted to get some advice on what the potential consequences are if I were to end up with a DUI and how that affects my application for a U.S. citizenship. Obviously, I am currently fighting this to get it dropped, but I just want to be prepared for the worst case scenario. I've done so much research but have not been able to come to a concrete answer. BTW, this is for Washington State.

In addition, what if it was reduced down to a reckless driving, or negligent driving?

If I were to get it dropped, I would still be able to just apply for citizenship, right? As long as I mention the arrest and explain that the case was dismissed?

Thank you for your help!
 
Consult a lawyer asap. For such unique cases legal help is required for US citizenship application filing.


Unless it is aggravated felony DUI, maybe it is not worth it if consutation is too expensive. Why not just apply withg applicatyion fee $ 675 . If it suceeds, thn all ends well, and if it fails treat it as if youy pay to consult USCIS interview
officer at the interview about eligibility after 5 years.
 
Consult a lawyer asap. For such unique cases legal help is required for US citizenship application filing.

Thank you for your reply -- my problem is even finding a lawyer. My immigration lawyer said she's not experience with any criminal charges and I have to wait until the case is closed. My DUI lawyer has no idea regarding the immigration consequences of a DUI.

Any idea where I can find an immigration lawyer experienced in this? I've tried AVVO - but it's been hard to find someone who understands both DUI and immigration... :-/
 
Thank you for your reply -- my problem is even finding a lawyer. My immigration lawyer said she's not experience with any criminal charges and I have to wait until the case is closed. My DUI lawyer has no idea regarding the immigration consequences of a DUI.

Any idea where I can find an immigration lawyer experienced in this? I've tried AVVO - but it's been hard to find someone who understands both DUI and immigration... :-/

One single firest offense ordinary DUI is not that serious on immigration; therefore there is no need
to find a lawyer who is good at both matters. Here are my suggestions

(1) Find a criminal lawyer to get you off DUI charge - eithe rdismissed or reduced to a lesser charge like reckless driving
(2) If (1) is successful, don't waste yoru money on any immigration lawyer and just go ahead to file I-485
(3) if you are indeed finally convicted on DUI, then consult an immigration lawyer

If It were me, except free consultation, I would not hire an immigration lawyer even in case of (3), for
such simple back and white common matter. I would rather pay the citizneship application fee and directly
ask the USCIS IO if it is OK or not during interview.
immigration is no use.
 
I am in the same situation.

I think you could roll the dice and apply, but think that until you have had your case judged, USCIS may defer processing your application - but this is just my uninformed opinion.

As for advice, it seems there are wide and varied opinions.

I have heard you will have to wait for 5 years after your conviction date, i.e. the time stated to show you have proven again you are a good person.

I have also heard this is not the case and you can apply and it's just down to luck and interpretation of the officer.

I don't know what Washingtons dui laws are like, but I got mine in CA. I have been found guilty, and in most cases, unless you really really have some sort of way you can get out of it, you won't. You will be convicted. So my advice is NOT to waste lots of money on expensive DUI attorneys. You can get the whole thing handled for you for around $500. The trick here is to get it settled quick and get it behind you.

There are two main reasons I say that, first, an expensive attorney will give you false hope you may get out and it's their way of making you feel you got value out of your large fee while they try this or that, but in the end you will get convicted. All you do is waste time and have no resolution to it.

The second reason and more importantly, if your state is like CA, and I assume it will be, you will have a probation period. In CA it's 3 years but I've been told that this can be cut to 18 months provided you have not other issues at this time. It is for this reason to get through your DUI quickly, I've been told, and it makes sense, that you CANNOT apply for citizenship while you are on probation.

But I stress, these are my minimally informed information which may or may not be correct.

So my strategy in my situation is, I currently have my wife and children going through their application process. They just did their finger printing and are in line for interview scheduling.

My "18 months of probation" is this July. I will apply for removal at that point of probation. My GC expiry date is next July, so within 6 months of expiry, I will apply for a GC renewal. Once I have that, I will apply for my citizenship and see how it goes. Worse case, I have my GC and just have to wait another 3 years to get past the 5 year hurdle and reapply then.

Not sure if any of this helps... good luck.


and just as a post note.... a "wet reckless" is still viewed like a dui in CA. Being arrested and a conviction, dui or wet reckless, both are misdemeanors.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Hi All,

Driving Under the Influence is not that serious on immigration. Possible find a Lawyer & Follow the instructions.
Follow the instructions for filling the N400 application.
 
While we are in the process of immigration, there are so many restrictions and rules are there. We need to follow those things, if you have charged with the Dui cases, then consult the best lawyer, he will definitely helps you in better manner. In internet you can find for them, within less expensive only.
 
dui and reckles driving

I moved to the states in 2011,
I got a a dui 23 dec 2011 and on dec 23 2013 I got another dui which i got a pleagargain to reckless driving.
I know i am not yet eligible to apply for citizenship.
My question is what are my chances of applying, I am gonna get denied?
I there are one who had success with 2 misdemeanor?
I working really hard to stay away from every legal problem, plz i need someone to answer my question not criticize my
mistake. I have been through alot i am a nursing student i dont even know if i am gonna get a license when i am done or get a job, now I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CITIZENSHIP. I know my actions where wrong don't judge me.
 
You should be fine with both DUIs if you stay out of further trouble for ur 3 or 5 year statutory period.

Note: what is it with u and Dec 23rd? U might wanna stay away from drinking on that day.
 
I moved to the states in 2011,
I got a a dui 23 dec 2011 and on dec 23 2013 I got another dui which i got a pleagargain to reckless driving.
I know i am not yet eligible to apply for citizenship.
My question is what are my chances of applying, I am gonna get denied?
I there are one who had success with 2 misdemeanor?
I working really hard to stay away from every legal problem, plz i need someone to answer my question not criticize my
mistake. I have been through alot i am a nursing student i dont even know if i am gonna get a license when i am done or get a job, now I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CITIZENSHIP. I know my actions where wrong don't judge me.

The short answer is: you are best advised to wait at least 5 years since the date of the conviction for the 2-nd incident (the one where you got the charge reduced to reckless driving) before applying for naturalization.
You must also make sure that if there was any probation imposed as the result of that conviction, that such probation be terminated or served out by the time you file N-400.

Here is a long answer:
You are required to demonstrate "good moral character" during the 5-year period prior to filing N-400 (or during the 3-year period if your are filing N-400 based on marriage to a U.S. citizen). The period for which you are required to show good moral character is called the "statutory period".

There are certain crimes, particularly crimes involving "moral turpitude" such that conviction for those crimes during the statutory period automatically precludes the finding of good moral character during that period. Luckily for you, DUI and reckless driving are not considered by the USCIS to be crimes involving moral turpitude.

However, there is another provision in the law which gives the IO adjudicating your N-400 application the discretion to take the other crimes (such as DUI and reckless driving, for example) into account when making a good moral character determination.
See 8CFR§ Sec. 316.10(b)(3)(iii):

http://www.uscis.gov/iframe/ilink/d...-0-1/0-0-0-11261/0-0-0-30960/0-0-0-31086.html

"(3) Unless the applicant establishes extenuating circumstances, the applicant shall be found to lack good moral character if, during the statutory period, the applicant:
.....

(iii) Committed unlawful acts that adversely reflect upon the applicant's moral character, or was convicted or imprisoned for such acts, although the acts do not fall within the purview of Sec.316.10(b)(1) or (2)."


So it is basically up to the discretion of the IO as to how seriously to take your DUI and reckless driving convictions if you apply less than 5 years after the latter. The fact that you had two, and not just one, misdemeanor convictions, makes it more likely that the IO will view them negatively because the second conviction can be viewed as evidence of failure to "reform character".
Here is a sample opinion of an immigration lawyer on such things:
http://www.immig-chicago.com/clientuploads/pdf/DUIen.pdf

So at the end of the day, it is up to you.
In principle, you can try your luck and file N-400 as soon as you have satisfied the continuous residency, physical presence and other relevant requirements, which, for non-marriage based N-400 cases, usually means 5 years after becoming an LPR.

But I think that you would be better off waiting at least 5 years (or at least 3 years if your N-400 is marriage-based) after the reckless driving conviction before applying for naturalization.
 
Top