Can they deny citizenship ?

Annee0512

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Back in 2007 I started dating my now ex husband back in high school. In 2010 we got married, we were 18 at the time. The Process was estressful because the IO thought we got married for the papers, we had 30 days to prove it was a bonafide marriage, we hired a lawyer, sent the proof, waited for a long time, finally got the permanent green card after 2 years(never had to remove conditions because never got the conditional one, I was waiting the whole time). A month after he left, he said wasn't happy anymore, we didn't get a divorce but 5 months later I met someone, and then 3 months after I got pregnant, my ex and I ended up getting a divorce in December 2016. Could they use it against me applying now for my citizenship after being a resident for 5 years? Could they use that they thought it was fraud before (even though it was proven otherwise) against me because of everything that happened after(is separating, him leaving, me getting pregnant)?
 
Just because ROC was approved doesn't mean they cannot go back and scrutinize it again. But nothing from what you've said sounds fraudulent.
 
Yes, I know they can, and what worries me, if that since they once thought it was a fraud, they could think that what happened after like I said (him leaving, me getting pregnant 8 months later with someone else, even though we were married for 6 years, we finally got a divorced December 2016, but separated around oct nov 2012 and at the time I got my green card we were already married for for 2 years and 5 months, I got it on sep 2012 and he decided to leave oct 2012, never got a divorced because we didn't know what was gonna happen, but then I met someone and got pregnant, my thing is that I'm the only one who knows that, not the IO, they could think of anything, and based on the past history of the fraud thing, sounds a little bad to me and I'm scared) might make them think again that it was a fraud. I'm really worried, i went through hell before, and i was trying to see if anybody knew of a similar case.
 
ok, so they had suspicion initially this was a sham marriage. that means for whatever reason they had good reason to believe this.

Now you say, just 1 month after you received your green card you separated (green card received in sept, separated in oct)

HA HA, ya right

Sure you didn't get your divorce until 2016, playing the time game out.

If I was your IO I would definitely begin removal proceedings against you.

I see this all the time, especially from the Philippines, in fact my son was offered $10k to "marry" someone from there to get them here.

This has all the appearances of a sham. "If it walks looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quack like a duck, then it's probably a duck"

But hey, you have your green card right? My advice is to you is to not worry about your citizenship right now, keep playing the time game going and stay on your green card and even renew it when it expires for another 10 years, then at that time look at getting your citizenship, as there would have been enough time passed and you are probably safe.
 
ok, so they had suspicion initially this was a sham marriage. that means for whatever reason they had good reason to believe this.

Now you say, just 1 month after you received your green card you separated (green card received in sept, separated in oct)

HA HA, ya right

Sure you didn't get your divorce until 2016, playing the time game out.

If I was your IO I would definitely begin removal proceedings against you.

I see this all the time, especially from the Philippines, in fact my son was offered $10k to "marry" someone from there to get them here.

This has all the appearances of a sham. "If it walks looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quack like a duck, then it's probably a duck"

But hey, you have your green card right? My advice is to you is to not worry about your citizenship right now, keep playing the time game going and stay on your green card and even renew it when it expires for another 10 years, then at that time look at getting your citizenship, as there would have been enough time passed and you are probably safe.



I wasn't playing the time out, I wasn't even thinking about getting a divorce at all, he was the USC and he was the one to tell me he wasn't happy anymore and left, I even lived with my mother in law by myself when he left. If I was playing with the time I would have probably try to become a citizen after 3 years...just because I was in a immigration process doesn't mean that whatever happened between us, happens all the time with a lot of other relationships. Yes, they thought we were lying, because we had a second interview, and most of the questions, were things like, what was he doing last week when you got home from work on Wednesday? Things like that...questions like about marks on my body even on his he didn't even remember about himself because he was too nervous and I did remember everything about him, we hired a lawyer and we proved that our marriage wasn't a lie. That's why my green card was approved. Now you really don't deserve all this information, after the way you just reply to my message, you don't know who's on the other side or how much you can affect someone, because I was very affected by all of this the entire process and thinking that I might have to go through this again is not even letting me eat. But go ahead and keep talking about things you don't even have any idea about. My problem is not proving one more time that it is true, because I have proof, and it was proven to be true, my problem is going through the whole thing again, which you probably don't even know how bad it feels, but thank you again.
 
whatever, like you say, i don't know you or your situation specifically

you may be telling the truth and you may not be

given the little bit of information you've given, i don't believe you, sorry, but that's just my instinct and maybe i'm wrong, but hey, maybe i'm right too

only you really know, so if i'm wrong it shouldn't bother you what i say, but if I'm right and you protest, and you keep trying to convince me or others here, well that really shows you are trying to play through the charade and even if I'm right and you are doing that there is no need because no one here cares, i don't care either, i'm just telling you what i'd do if I was your IO, and I'm not so it doesn't matter.

like i said only you know for sure

so my advise to is what i told you, why be concerned about getting your citizenship now?you already have your gc, which is what you wanted as you applied right away when you got "married", your green card doesn't expire until 2022 and you can renew it then, either way (if you are truthful or not) you can fly beneath the radar until later in the future and if you are still worried, you can renew your gc for another 10 years at that point (but please don't tell me you want your citizenship so you can get your baby daddy's gc!)
 
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whatever, like you say, i don't know you or your situation specifically

you may be telling the truth and you may not be

given the little bit of information you've given, i don't believe you, sorry, but that's just my instinct and maybe i'm wrong, but hey, maybe i'm right too

only you really know, so if i'm wrong it shouldn't bother you what i say, but if I'm right and you protest, and you keep trying to convince me or others here, well that really shows you are trying to play through the charade and even if I'm right and you are doing that there is no need because no one here cares, i don't care either, i'm just telling you what i'd do if I was your IO, and I'm not so it doesn't matter.

like i said only you know for sure

so my advise to is what i told you, why be concerned about getting your citizenship now?you already have your gc, which is what you wanted as you applied right away when you got "married", your green card doesn't expire until 2022 and you can renew it then, either way (if you are truthful or not) you can fly beneath the radar until later in the future and if you are still worried, you can renew your gc for another 10 years at that point

When I got divorced, I changed my name back to my maiden name, i know the charge to replace your green card is 450 while the citizenship is 640...I called immigration and they said I could just do my citizenship and show the court papers with my legal name now. So rather than paying 450 I would just become a citizen...but I get always so worried about everything and all of a sudden I started thinking about this. So that's why I'm planning on doing it, instead of just renewing my green card.

And yes, it's fine, I get it, it might look like that but in reality is not, that's why I posted the question to begin...but like you said, nobody here cares so.
 
whatever, like you say, i don't know you or your situation specifically

you may be telling the truth and you may not be

given the little bit of information you've given, i don't believe you, sorry, but that's just my instinct and maybe i'm wrong, but hey, maybe i'm right too

only you really know, so if i'm wrong it shouldn't bother you what i say, but if I'm right and you protest, and you keep trying to convince me or others here, well that really shows you are trying to play through the charade and even if I'm right and you are doing that there is no need because no one here cares, i don't care either, i'm just telling you what i'd do if I was your IO, and I'm not so it doesn't matter.

like i said only you know for sure

so my advise to is what i told you, why be concerned about getting your citizenship now?you already have your gc, which is what you wanted as you applied right away when you got "married", your green card doesn't expire until 2022 and you can renew it then, either way (if you are truthful or not) you can fly beneath the radar until later in the future and if you are still worried, you can renew your gc for another 10 years at that point (but please don't tell me you want your citizenship so you can get your baby daddy's gc!)


And to answer the last part of your message, no, I don't want it to get nobody a green card. He's a USC.
 
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