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I need tax papers from someone to make my tax a certain amount that the INS is asking for inorder for me to bring my spouse to the usa. I dont make enough. I wanted to know what if someone who is paying tax but has their working papers only and a SS# only but not a GC, can they help me out by giving me their tax papers or does immigration visa centers only except tax returns from legal residents/usa citizens?
 
are you saying if this is done you go to jail? which part? the illegal or the working papers? beacuse asking someone to help give tax papers IS NOT A CRIME that is part of what they say straight our openly, if you do not have enough on your tax return you should find someone to joint affidavit of support in order to complete the specified amount required.
 
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The petitioner must make at least 125% above the U.S federal poverty to indicate to the U.S government that the intending immigrant will not become a federal charge to the government when he/she arrives in the U.S.If the petitioner cannot meet these requirements, then he/she must still file an I-864, and find a joint sponsor who can meet the requirements on his/her own. When a joint sponsor is needed ,proof of their U.S citizenship or permanent residency is required. (i.e. copy of birth certificate, immigration status etc). The joint sponsor must be residing in the U.S, and he/she must also submit his/her past 3 years U.S tax returns along with bank or any other financial records available. The joint sponsor must submit his/her own I-864 form to accompany the petitioner's I-864 form.

I know this much that i posted above BUT what if they have working papers? I am guessing that is a NO but that is only my common sense alone. I didnt get any facts from anyone so i am asking here.
 
nyc_nyc_nyc said:
When a joint sponsor is needed ,proof of their U.S citizenship or permanent residency is required. (i.e. copy of birth certificate, immigration status etc).

I know this much that i posted above BUT what if they have working papers? I am guessing that is a NO but that is only my common sense alone. I didnt get any facts from anyone so i am asking here.
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I think you have already answered your question.
 
Why cant someone just answer without making any comments. I asked here for a reason. I once told my professor I have a stupid question for you he replied "No question is ever stupid just ask". I know what it sates I have read it. But I was not/am not sure about the fact what if someone has a SS# and has working papers. That makes them legal not illegal. A simple question a yes or no answer was suppposed to be what i was hoping to expect. thanks. jeez it's like you have to think about what to ask so no one wise cracks you. is this what we are supposed to be doing instead of helping? My father told me about his friend who can help. I asked him his immigration status. he said he has working papers. I told him NO he has to be a GC holder or a US citizen. He asked me are you positive maybe you should ask someone. So i did i asked here. ;)
 
Well, they need to be Citizen or PR for sure. when you do joint sponser, basically they take all responsibility for that immigrant (in case is your spouse). Usllay if you are not Citizen or PR even bank doesn't approve you for any loans.
Work papers doesn't really mean legal or illegal, depends on the status they have thru immigration.
I know people in San Diego which have work documents and file taxes but they are not legal nor illegal.. it is hard to say unless they guys tell you the truth about their status. (My wife has ITIN number but she is not here, she files tax with me but she has no status in the United States, she is not legal or illegal but she can not be a joint sponser)

For you to bring your spouse here, I wouldn't do anything crazy like this. Embassies are really picky and even people have the right paper work they get picked on.

It is hard for you probably in this situation to find what to do, but if I were you I wouldn't do anything stupid specially on my Spouse's case and find someone with solid status and decent income to support yo.
Good Luck
 
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Yes, I agree with Nimche, You have to have good solid income sponcer if you want to get your spouse visa specially from outside of usa. Sponcership is difficult overseas then with uscis.

Co-sponcer sound wrong messege to the visa officer that the spouse could be burden on government. If it is within your family then it helps. Other then outside family the doubt but you still have good chance to get it. so just try it.Sponcer should be us Citizen
or PR and he must have good income on his/her tax return.But he should not have lot of family members on his tax return.
 
nyc_nyc_nyc said:
Why cant someone just answer without making any comments. I asked here for a reason. I once told my professor I have a stupid question for you he replied "No question is ever stupid just ask". I know what it sates I have read it. But I was not/am not sure about the fact what if someone has a SS# and has working papers. That makes them legal not illegal. A simple question a yes or no answer was suppposed to be what i was hoping to expect. thanks. jeez it's like you have to think about what to ask so no one wise cracks you. is this what we are supposed to be doing instead of helping? My father told me about his friend who can help. I asked him his immigration status. he said he has working papers. I told him NO he has to be a GC holder or a US citizen. He asked me are you positive maybe you should ask someone. So i did i asked here. ;)
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The simple answer to your question is: No. The only one who can be joint sponsor will have to be either citizen or LPR.
 
thanks so much for answering I understand it better now. I will have to look for someone who has a GC or US Citizenship. I did have my doubts about this now they are cleared. seriously thank you guys :)
 
nyc_nyc_nyc said:
Why cant someone just answer without making any comments. I asked here for a reason. I once told my professor I have a stupid question for you he replied "No question is ever stupid just ask".
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We would appreciate it if you would read the instructions of the forms before asking questions. If you think the instructions are unclear, then point out the unclear portion and ask for clarification. But don't expect us to do the work of answering your question if you aren't willing to do the work of reading the instructions first.
 
nyc_nyc_nyc said:
Why cant someone just answer without making any comments.
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Ok fine, here's an answer.

A sponsor can only be an LPR or a USC.

Nothing else will do, primarily because the sponsorship agreement remains in force for so long. Think about it - what would happen if the sponsor was picked up by ICE and deported, or if their temporary work visa expired?
 
nyc_nyc_nyc said:
I need tax papers from someone to make my tax a certain amount that the INS is asking for inorder for me to bring my spouse to the usa. I dont make enough. I wanted to know what if someone who is paying tax but has their working papers only and a SS# only but not a GC, can they help me out by giving me their tax papers or does immigration visa centers only except tax returns from legal residents/usa citizens?
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Hello freind
I am sorry that I can not read what others has said on this question and will try to give you some general idea.
generally you can do this by having co-sponser and he or she needs to be either PR or US citizen and the reason why is that they are signing papers that they are guarantying that the immigrant won't be public charge for at least 5 years and if your wife needs any financial help, Co-signer will be responsible and will cover the expense and charges,So PR and US citizens won't go anywhere and will have to meet their obligation since they will sign paper for it if it is nessesery but illegal individual or temporary visa holders might leave the country due to their visa circumstances.
therefore finding co-signer won't be easy task unless someone who really knows you and most importantly trusts you that this scenario will not happen.
I know a guy who asked his brother-in law to do it for his parents and he flatly said no and his theory was that he wants to sleep with peace on mind for next 5 years.
Good luck
 
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mh66ii said:
they are signing papers that they are guarantying that the immigrant won't be public charge for at least 5 years
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...and potentially a whole lot longer than that! Rules say the sponsorship agreement remains in force until the beneficiary becomes a USC, relinquishes their LPR status, or attains 40 social security work credits.
 
This might be your answer

Unlike past USCIS is asking for most rescent tax return now instead of last 3 years that they used to ask in the past.What you can do is to claim extra income in your next year tax return which is not too far from now, all you will lose is that you might have some taxses due or not get any money back from uncle sam and use that tax return for sponsering your wife and also If you have any kind of assets it will count on the I-864(if I am right about the form number)
Assets like second car(First one doesn't count as asset), cash, stock, bonds, home equity and etc.
You can send me message in private if you want and explain your financial situation in detail and I will try to help you as much as I have knowledge about this.
Again my info is 16 months old and I don't think it has been changed since then.
 
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boatbod said:
...and potentially a whole lot longer than that! Rules say the sponsorship agreement remains in force until the beneficiary becomes a USC, relinquishes their LPR status, or attains 40 social security work credits.
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I know that for fact the term is 5 years(If it has not been change on last 18 months) and the reason is that this law meant to limit co-signer's obligations up to beneficiary's eligibility for citizenship which is 5 years after GC so after 5 years Co-signer is off the hock regardless of if beneficiary applies for naturalization or not.
 
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