Can I apply for US citizenship from India?!

CAEntrepreneur

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Greetings,

Hope you guys can help me! Here is my situation..

1. I got my GC in 2003 and lived in USA until April 2009 and moved back to India.

2. I own a small business in California (which was incorporated in 2006) and still running this business from India itself via phone/internet selling products/solutions to US customers. This corporation is in good standing with taxes etc..

3. While I am in India, I am co-ordinating with several IT companies to build websites/solutions for my US clients. I am alone in this business with no employees etc.

4. I went to USA on a 10 day business trip in March' 2010. So, it hasn't been 1 year since then.

Now the question is, can I appy for the citizenship from india (via the US consulate or something) since I am technically here in India on business.

I understand that I can do so except that I will need to live in the state where I am applying from for atleast 3 months immediately preceeding the date of application.

Any help is highly appreciated.

Thanks,
 
Greetings,

Hope you guys can help me! Here is my situation..

1. I got my GC in 2003 and lived in USA until April 2009 and moved back to India.

2. I own a small business in California (which was incorporated in 2006) and still running this business from India itself via phone/internet selling products/solutions to US customers. This corporation is in good standing with taxes etc..

3. While I am in India, I am co-ordinating with several IT companies to build websites/solutions for my US clients. I am alone in this business with no employees etc.

4. I went to USA on a 10 day business trip in March' 2010. So, it hasn't been 1 year since then.

Now the question is, can I appy for the citizenship from india (via the US consulate or something) since I am technically here in India on business.

I understand that I can do so except that I will need to live in the state where I am applying from for atleast 3 months immediately preceeding the date of application.

Any help is highly appreciated.

Thanks,

You may not submit an N-400 while residing abroad UNLESS you are active duty U.S. military or civilian employee or that person's spouse or child who is at least 18 and a dependent household member.

Your California company does not qualify as an American Firm because you are not a USC so you are not eligible for benefits of INA 316(b) and ineleigible to file an N-470.

Matter of CHAWATHE, 25 I&N Dec. 369 (AAO 2010)

(1) For purposes of establishing the requisite continuous residence in naturalization proceedings pursuant to section 316(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, 8 U.S.C. § 1427(b) (2006), a publicly held corporation may be deemed an “American firm or corporation” if the applicant establishes that the corporation is both incorporated in the United States and trades its stock exclusively on U.S. stock exchange markets.

(2) When an applicant’s employer is a publicly held corporation that is incorporated in the United States and trades its stock exclusively on U.S. stock markets, the applicant need not demonstrate the nationality of the corporation by establishing the nationality of those persons who own more than 51% of the stock of that firm. Matter of Warrach, 17 I&N Dec. 285, 286-87 (Reg. Comm’r 1979), clarified. .....................................

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You have effectively abandonded your LPR status by your actions and are in severe danger of having your greencard taken away.

FROM: http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/M-618.pdf This is the Welcome Guiode for new immigrants on www.uscis.gov

Keep Your Immigration Status

Permanent residents who leave the United States for
extended periods, or who cannot show their intent to
live permanently in the U.S., may lose their permanent
resident status. Many immigrants believe they can live
abroad as long as they return to the U.S. at least once a
year. This is incorrect. If you think you will be out of
the U.S. for more than 12 months, you should apply for a { although they say 12 months, you are "seeking admission" after only 6 months}
re-entry permit before leaving the country.You should
file Form I-131, Application for a Travel Document.You
can get this form at http://www.uscis.gov or by calling
the USCIS Forms Line at 1-800-870-3676.You must pay
a fee to file Form I-131.

A re-entry permit is valid for up to two years.You may
show the re-entry permit, instead of a visa or your
Permanent Resident Card, at a port of entry. Having a
re-entry permit does not guarantee that you will be
admitted to the United States when you return
, but it
can make it easier to show that you are returning from
a temporary visit abroad. Visit http://www.state.gov or
your nearest Department of State Consular Office overseas
for more information.

*********************************

INA 101(a)

(13) (A) The terms "admission" and "admitted" mean, with respect to an alien, the lawful entry of the alien into the United States after inspection and authorization by an immigration officer.

(B) An alien who is paroled under section 212(d)(5) or permitted to land temporarily as an alien crewman shall not be considered to have been admitted.

(C) An alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the United States shall not be regarded as seeking an admission into the United States for purposes of the immigration laws unless the alien-

(i) has abandoned or relinquished that status,

(ii) has been absent from the United States for a continuous period in excess of 180 days,

(iii) has engaged in illegal activity after having departed the United States,

(iv) has departed from the United States while under legal process seeking removal of the alien from the United States, including removal proceedings under this Act and extradition proceedings,

(v) has committed an offense identified in section 212(a)(2), unless since such offense the alien has been granted relief under section 212(h) or 240A(a), or

(vi) is attempting to enter at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers or has not been admitted to the United States after inspection and authorization by an immigration officer.
 
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My friend, You are in India and you left here on 2009. Is there any reason for leaving the US rather economical thing/reasons? How did you get your GC? Why do you wanna come here again and be a citizen? These all things you have to reveal before you ask our opinion.
 
My friend, You are in India and you left here on 2009. Is there any reason for leaving the US rather economical thing/reasons? How did you get your GC? Why do you wanna come here again and be a citizen? These all things you have to reveal before you ask our opinion.

Thanks for the response..

1. I got the GC based on employement..I lived in US since 1997.

2. Came to India on business in 2009. been here for the last 9 months since my last visit to US.

3. It's becoming harder to manage my business in US being in India. My business in the US has revenues exceeding $250K per year. So, I can't afford to lose it.

Btw, my wife is US citizen. Before moving to India she took the citizenship and OCI as well.

Hope that answers your questions..
 
Hi BigJoe5,

Thanks for the kind and detailed response. Much appreciated.

So, looks like I screwed up somewhat already? :(

Can I come to US now and apply for the citizenship after living for another 3 months? or is too late for me to keep LPR status already??

Thanks in advance,
 
Hi BigJoe5,

Thanks for the kind and detailed response. Much appreciated.

So, looks like I screwed up somewhat already? :(

Can I come to US now and apply for the citizenship after living for another 3 months? or is too late for me to keep LPR status already??

Thanks in advance,

If you got a re-entry permit it will be easier to come back and keep your card and LPR status. Lack of a REP probably won't stop you from returning, you mangaed before. As to the effect of your long absence on natz, please read 8 CFR 316.5 (c)(1) in which (i) raises a rebuttable presumption of a meaningful break and if you cannot overcome it, (ii) provides the remedy. It is unlikely that you can overcome the presumption in that your wife moved abroad with you and you did a lot of business abroad. It is unlikely that you would qualify under the 3 year rule as the spouse of a USC if she only recently naturalized but once she has been a USC for a full 3 years, you may benefit from it then and be able to apply under the shorter 2 yr and 1 day remedy even though it may actually take you longer to reach her 3 yrs as a USC, but it would still be shorter than using the 4 yr and 1 day remedy. She will move back with you to California, right?
 
If you got a re-entry permit it will be easier to come back and keep your card and LPR status. Lack of a REP probably won't stop you from returning, you mangaed before. As to the effect of your long absence on natz, please read 8 CFR 316.5 (c)(1) in which (i) raises a rebuttable presumption of a meaningful break and if you cannot overcome it, (ii) provides the remedy. It is unlikely that you can overcome the presumption in that your wife moved abroad with you and you did a lot of business abroad. It is unlikely that you would qualify under the 3 year rule as the spouse of a USC if she only recently naturalized but once she has been a USC for a full 3 years, you may benefit from it then and be able to apply under the shorter 2 yr and 1 day remedy even though it may actually take you longer to reach her 3 yrs as a USC, but it would still be shorter than using the 4 yr and 1 day remedy. She will move back with you to California, right?

Joe,

Assuming his GC expired after the span of 12 months and him not returning, if he wants to return to america on some legal status at the earliest is it not best to try for a DCF if she will be relocating to CA ?
 
Joe,

Assuming his GC expired after the span of 12 months and him not returning, if he wants to return to america on some legal status at the earliest is it not best to try for a DCF if she will be relocating to CA ?

Actually he stated that currently his absence is approx. 9 months. I don't know what DCF stands for. If his absence progresses to 12 months, he may apply for an SB-1 Visa as a Returning Resident, and owning a business in the U.S. and being the spouse of a USC, he would stand a good chance at getting it. As a last resort his wife could file an I-130 for him.
 
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Actually he stated that currently his absence is approx. 9 months. I don't know what DCF stands for. If his absence progresses to 12 months, he may apply for an SB-1 Visa as a Returning Resident, and owning a business in tyhe U.S. and being the spouse of a USC, he would stand a good chance at getting it. As a last resort his wife could file an I-130 for him.

i thought there was something called direct consular filing or something, that lets the spouse of usc living abroad get through immigration alot faster as they could get it adjudicated in very little time .... please correct me if i am wrong
 
i thought there was something called direct consular filing or something, that lets the spouse of usc living abroad get through immigration alot faster as they could get it adjudicated in very little time .... please correct me if i am wrong

That would be the I-130 and DS-230 to get a NEW greencard and is the last and least desireable option. An SB-1 is better as his greencard status would continue from the original issuance (better for naturalization), the remedy applies and he continues on the same path to naturalization eligibility. Getting a new greencard on a brand new immigrant visa, means that they will make him complete an I-407 to document abandonment of the prior card and LPR status. THAT resets the naturalization clock back to a brand new day one.
 
Thanks again guys..

So, have I already lost my eligibility to apply for citizenship on my own (even if I can fly to California immediatley within a month)? I am somewhat confused about this..Kindly help me on this..

Thanks,

P.S> I don't have REP..
 
You can submit the N-400 while you are outside the US. However, that is only a point in time thing; regardless of where you physically are at the time of N-400 submission, you still have to comply with the larger requirements of continuous residence and physical presence.

Having spent only 10 days in the US out of the past 20 months, with your immediate family also abroad with you and you not keeping your house/apt in the US, makes it very likely you'll be denied for breaking continuous residence.

So, have I already lost my eligibility to apply for citizenship on my own (even if I can fly to California immediatley within a month)? I am somewhat confused about this..
You haven't lost your eligibility altogether, you've just delayed it. You can rebuild eligibility by returning to the US and waiting at least 4 years and a day (or 2 years and a day, if you qualify based on marriage to USC).
 
You can submit the N-400 while you are outside the US. However, that is only a point in time thing; regardless of where you physically are at the time of N-400 submission, you still have to comply with the larger requirements of continuous residence and physical presence.

Having spent only 10 days in the US out of the past 20 months, with your immediate family also abroad with you and you not keeping your house/apt in the US, makes it very likely you'll be denied for breaking continuous residence.


You haven't lost your eligibility altogether, you've just delayed it. You can rebuild eligibility by returning to the US and waiting at least 4 years and a day (or 2 years and a day, if you qualify based on marriage to USC).

Jackolantern,

NOTE: I said he cannot file an N-400 while RESIDING abroad, merely making a short temporary "visit" is lot in the same category as this man's situation.
 
NOTE: I said he cannot file an N-400 while RESIDING abroad, merely making a short temporary "visit" is lot in the same category as this man's situation.

I wasn't responding to your post. You're so vain, you probably think post 12 was about you! :p :D
 
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