California DOL (Regional) Tracking

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Hello all,
My husband applied for his labor certification. Cal State had transfered his application to DOL on Nov 2002. We have not got any RD from DOL yet. I wanted to ask you'll that the processing time for regional for California is June 2002. So is it the time regional received the appication from State? Anyone knows when one gets a RD from DOL?

Thanks a lot
Nikita
 
Nikita,

usually DOL sends a letter to your attorney-HR-company? or to whoever is responsible for handling your case. It's really hard to say where you should find your RD... It's on this letter.
Assuming you are in this game for an employer sponsored greencard, meaning that your husband's company has a role to play ie.: they apply for LC, you should contanct the company or the company's lawyer.

With your case number, you can query DOL's database. See messages posted previously as to how.

Good luck,
Ana

Btw: bad news is that 031 and 032 DOT code LC applications filed after July 2001 with SESA are almost unanimously getting returned to SESA --> 2+ yrs. of waiting again.
 
Are people getting a Remand to State after replying to a NOF

Is there anybody whose application has been remanded to state after he had replied to a NOF or
All Applications that are remanded to State are the ones with out a NOF.
This will be helpful information.

DOL RD : April 2002.
Current Status: Received at Regional Office.
Got a NOF and my company has sent a reply to it.
 
Re: Are people getting a Remand to State after replying to a NOF

Most of the time applications getting remanded to the state or the
first time issuers(which are issued without any NOF's).
NOF you shouldn't get a NOF but what might happen is...if the results submitted or not satisfactory then they might issue another NOF....i have seen people on the list who got 2 or 3 NOF'S and then there Labors got Certified.


Best of Luck


Originally posted by Parikshat
Is there anybody whose application has been remanded to state after he had replied to a NOF or
All Applications that are remanded to State are the ones with out a NOF.
This will be helpful information.

DOL RD : April 2002.
Current Status: Received at Regional Office.
Got a NOF and my company has sent a reply to it.
 
Re: Re: Are people getting a Remand to State after replying to a NOF

Yes. My collegue got a NOF. The company replied back with retest results and the case got remanded to state. don't know the reason yet.

good luck,
masti

Originally posted by 2Hard2guess
Most of the time applications getting remanded to the state or the
first time issuers(which are issued without any NOF's).
NOF you shouldn't get a NOF but what might happen is...if the results submitted or not satisfactory then they might issue another NOF....i have seen people on the list who got 2 or 3 NOF'S and then there Labors got Certified.


Best of Luck
 
From AILA

Labor Certification in A Tight Job Market
With the economic downturn and the rising unemployment
rate, the Department of Labor (DOL) has not been
inclined to issue labor certifications (the first step
in obtaining permanent residence status based on
employment). A labor certification is essentially a
determination that there is a shortage of U.S. workers
who are available for the job held by the applicant.
The DOL cannot make that determination if it perceives
that qualified applicants in the occupation have been
laid off or are looking for work.

Recently (May 15, 2003), the San Francisco office of
the DOL announced its belief that there is no shortage
of U.S. workers in computer-related fields , and that
it would deny requests for “Reduction In
Recruitment†(applications based on the employer’s
unsuccessful recruitment prior to filing) for computer
occupations in the San Francisco area.

Currently, the San Francisco office of the DOL is
processing Reduction In Recruitment (RIR) cases that
were filed in 2001, when there was much less
unemployment in the local high-tech job market.
Essentially the DOL has taken the position that it
will not grant a labor certification based on
recruitment conducted then. In its statements to our
lawyers’ association (AILA), the DOL indicates its
belief that there was no shortage of U.S. high-tech
workers even in 2001.

“Many of the applications for computer-related
occupations (high-tech industry) that we are currently
reviewing in Region 6 [California, Arizona and Nevada]
were filed in mid-2001, during a time when many of
these companies were starting to down-size, close
down, and lay-off workers. Region 6 is confident that
there was applicant availability during this time.
Therefore, the Reduction in Recruitment (RIR) waiver
for these applications is being denied (there was
applicant availability during the time that employers
were conducting recruitment). These applications are
being remanded to the SWA [state job office] for
supervised recruitment.â€

In fact, we are seeing two types of DOL responses to
California high-tech RIR cases. In many of those
cases, the DOL simply denies the RIR request and sends
the case back to the state job office (in California,
the Employment Development Department, or “EDDâ€)
for further recruitment. That further recruitment
will consist of three days of advertising in the
appropriate newspaper (directing applicants to send
their résumés to the EDD), and a 30-day job listing
on the EDD placement system. These cases that are
sent to the EDD for “slow track†processing will
be placed in the queue for processing according to the
date on which they were originally filed (not the date
they are remanded by the DOL).

In other cases, the DOL sends to the employer a notice
known as a “Ziegler letter.†The Ziegler letter
gives the employer three options: 1) withdraw the
application, 2) request that the application be
remanded to the state job office (in California, the
EDD) for regular processing (i.e., supervised
recruitment), or 3) place one more advertisement in
the newspaper and report on the results. If the
employer does nothing within 60 days, the DOL will
remand the case to the state job office.

The third option (advertising) could result in fast
approval of the application if there are no applicants
who respond to the ad, or if those who do respond are
clearly unqualified. However, this option could also
be a trap for the unwary, because the DOL will deny
the application if it believes there are qualified
applicants who respond to the ad. Therefore, if there
is any question as to whether the applicants are
qualified, the prudent course may be to request remand
to the state job office (or do nothing, in which case
the case will automatically be remanded).

Once the case is remanded to the state job office, it
could take six months or even more than a year before
the supervised recruitment begins. There is a very
good chance that by then the job market will again
change, and that the recruitment will reflect a
shortage of qualified workers.

It appears increasingly likely that a new, super-fast
labor certification (called “PERMâ€) will be
implemented by the end of this year, perhaps even by
the fall. This new PERM procedure will require
recruitment in multiple sources (e.g., newspaper,
trade journal, internet, employer’s own website) for
several months very much like the present RIR
procedures. For a more complete discussion of the
PERM procedure, see our May 2002 newsletter. Many
employers will choose to use the PERM procedure rather
than wait for the supervised recruitment under the
existing procedures.

The big picture is that regardless of which labor
certification procedure is used – RIR, supervised
recruitment, or PERM – the labor certification
application cannot be approved unless there is a
demonstrated shortage of U.S. workers in the
occupation and geographical area to be certified.
After two and a half decades of filing labor
certifications for high technology workers it is clear
to me that such shortages are cyclical and persistent,
and that highly skilled computer specialists
ultimately will be able to immigrate based on their
employment, perhaps much sooner than they think.
 
Re: From AILA

Excellent but discouraging information :(-

Case : 0953XXXX
DOT Code : 999.151-081
Original SESA : March 2001
RD @ DOL May 2001
Remand to state : Jun 2001

Refiled with SESA : Sep 2001
New RD @ DOL Sep 5 2002.
Status : Received in Regional Office







Originally posted by waiting forLC
Labor Certification in A Tight Job Market
With the economic downturn and the rising unemployment
rate, the Department of Labor (DOL) has not been
inclined to issue labor certifications (the first step
in obtaining permanent residence status based on
employment). A labor certification is essentially a
determination that there is a shortage of U
 
Thanks Ana,
I got the RD. It was there in the letter(lawyer finally found it). Details:
RIR EB2
State to DOL: 11/14/02
DOL RD:12/12/02
DOT: 999151051
Its not 031 or 032 but still under computer occupations.

Nikita
 
Hi Nikita,
I am glad you have the number. Unfortunately the picture is the same for 999.151-051 too... Remand to state since the last month.

Ana
 
Thanks to toy3kin192 for sharing the files.

One question, what date is the date field in the file? RD at DOL? Then why for many cases with the same date, some got certified as soon as in one month (last year), and some reamend to state this year, some still saying Received Regional Office on xxxx?

Just trying to figure out how the process works at DOL.

Thanks in advance.

xqg:confused:
 
Labor certified!!

My labor got certified (got an email from the attorney yesterday). Details are as follows.

Priority Date : 01-Aug-01
DOT Code : 999.151-031
Category : EB3/RIR
Recd at DOL : 09-May-02
NOF (3 options) : 28-Apr-03
Certified : 19-Jun-03
 
??

What is the diffrence between "Denied Permanent...." vs "Remand issued to state..."?

Some 031 cases are also in "Denied Permanent" state?
 
I tried calling 415-975-4617 couple of times today and there is no response. Its just ringing and ringing. Does this happen a lot or something is wrong? I even wrote to them with case number at LCSTATUS09@doleta.gov but no reply yet!! Do I have to write from the companys email address?
 
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Congratulations cagc_2001

hi cagc_2001,

Please provide details about what are 3 options you got with your NOF and which option your lawer opted for your LC.

thanks in advance

Destiny
 
Re: ??

denied permanent means that the LC request was refused- that's it, your employer will have to file a new one. I am unsure if they can do it right away or they'll have to wait, etc... Usually this happens to frivolous applications, or when DOL deems the recruitment effor dishonest. permanent means that there is no place for appeal

Remand to state means that the application was returned to the SESA/ SWA/ EDD for another round with keeping the original SESA filing date in the queue. Assuming it's an RIR application, it usually means that the RIR status was denied and the case is thrown back to SESA into the regular LC queue. The recruitment effort that will establish the grounds for the application will be dictated by SESA- in 2-3 years down the road. SESA is still fiddling with Apr, 2001 applications in the non-RIR category.

Hope this helps,
Ana

Originally posted by disney2k
What is the diffrence between "Denied Permanent...." vs "Remand issued to state..."?

Some 031 cases are also in "Denied Permanent" state?
 
Destiny,

We recd. the std. 3 options

1. Re-advertise
2. Withdraw
3. Process as non-RIR

My lawyer chose Option 1. I do not have details on the ad process, but we recd. abt 10-15 resumes all of which did not satify the job requirements.
 
one day ad

Has anyone had the experience of receiving a 2nd NOF from DOL after responding to DOL with result of re-advertisement (no qualified candidate was found from 15-20 resumes)?
What actions did you take?

Thanks!
 
Advice Needed!!!! RIR processing..

Hi Everyone,

I am posting this here, so that i can get answers from all of you. I have filed my State level (SESA) this january in RIR. I understand that it will take one year to complete this to come to DOL.

My question is - Is it advisable to take back the application and file it in the non-RIR queue, because, i see cases in DOL getting rejected (other than going back to the non RIR queue retaining the PD or with NOF), what if it is rejected permanently, then i dont get to retain my PD and i have to start from the scratch again if i have to reapply.

In this scenario, i would have literally wasted more than 1 1/2 years of time, simply without any use. So, any advice from anyone will be highly appreciated. I am just trying to be little cautious here doing this step. But want to get others opinions also before doing this. Kindly HELP!!!!!!!

waitingforlca.
 
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