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14ksusha

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Just came back from Dulles Airport in DC. Going through passport control was a breeze. I had my recently renewed NP, GC, and a customs form filled out. I did indicate on the form countries visited: England and COP (anticipating that the notorious question may be asked). The IO asked how long I had been away and stamped the NP. I didn't see him scanning anything.

I had a great trip, paid a visit to my parents, (took care of my Mom who broke her arm recently) and travelled across England for the first time. Absolutely enjoyed it! For those of you who are paranoid about travelling on NP with a GC - don't be afraid! It's legitimate and much easier than with RTD or Reentry permit. And don't listen to some paranoid folks here who simply lack common sense. Travel! Enjoy seeing the world! After all, isn't it what we all came to this country for?
 
welcome back...
It was unnecessary to advice everybody about renewing "fresh" passport and take a trip to COP...people may get hurt behind your advice.
Good luck.
 
14ksusha said:
Just came back from Dulles Airport in DC. Going through passport control was a breeze. I had my recently renewed NP, GC, and a customs form filled out. I did indicate on the form countries visited: England and COP (anticipating that the notorious question may be asked). The IO asked how long I had been away and stamped the NP. I didn't see him scanning anything.

I had a great trip, paid a visit to my parents, (took care of my Mom who broke her arm recently) and travelled across England for the first time. Absolutely enjoyed it! For those of you who are paranoid about travelling on NP with a GC - don't be afraid! It's legitimate and much easier than with RTD or Reentry permit. And don't listen to some paranoid folks here who simply lack common sense. Travel! Enjoy seeing the world! After all, isn't it what we all came to this country for?
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Welcome back.
Thank you for sharing your experience.At the time of citizenship let us know what the immigration judge will tell you about this enjoying and succefull trip you just made.

RD Aug 22,2001
GC Sep 15,2005
Citizenship June 16,2009
 
cadel said:
Welcome back.
Thank you for sharing your experience.At the time of citizenship let us know what the immigration judge will tell you about this enjoying and succefull trip you just made.

RD Aug 22,2001
GC Sep 15,2005
Citizenship June 16,2009
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Immigration judges don't take citizenship interviews my friend. Do some research even before trying to scare people..
 
14ksusha said:
Just came back from Dulles Airport in DC. Going through passport control was a breeze. I had my recently renewed NP, GC, and a customs form filled out. I did indicate on the form countries visited: England and COP (anticipating that the notorious question may be asked). The IO asked how long I had been away and stamped the NP. I didn't see him scanning anything.

I had a great trip, paid a visit to my parents, (took care of my Mom who broke her arm recently) and travelled across England for the first time. Absolutely enjoyed it! For those of you who are paranoid about travelling on NP with a GC - don't be afraid! It's legitimate and much easier than with RTD or Reentry permit. And don't listen to some paranoid folks here who simply lack common sense. Travel! Enjoy seeing the world! After all, isn't it what we all came to this country for?
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WElcome back 14ksusha! Congratulations for leaving your fears behind you. You had a legitimate purpose for your visit and it was the right thing to do.
 
jubilee said:
welcome back...
It was unnecessary to advice everybody about renewing "fresh" passport and take a trip to COP...people may get hurt behind your advice.
Good luck.
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Exactly, tell me how are you going to be hurt? Point me to the part of immigration law that is going to prosecute you if you renewed your passport? I guess America didnt get much by having you all (The Paranoid Club, I call it) here - you are a typical product of a totalitarian regime. That's why you all get in trouble at the border and get unnecessary attention from the IOs - you are afraid of authorities and it is written on your nervous faces.
I am not advising you to lie, have both RTDs and NPs or not to tell IOs at the airport that you have been to your COPs, etc. I am not advising you to renew your passport, I understand that sometimes you cannot do it because your COP wouldn't let you. All I am advising you is to exercise your rights. Obviously, this idea is unknown to you. This goes to the rest of the people who are continiously spreading baseless fears on this board. I feel sorry for you all.
 
Lazerthegreat said:
WElcome back 14ksusha! Congratulations for leaving your fears behind you. You had a legitimate purpose for your visit and it was the right thing to do.
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Thank you Lazer! Hope all is well :}
 
Thanks 14Ksusha by sharing us your experience.I think different situation of COPs mean different process with NP, RTD or RP. In my case I know I can use my NP and renew it when I need it. But I see some people here who only write to spread their fear without common sense.

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14ksusha said:
Just came back from Dulles Airport in DC. Going through passport control was a breeze. I had my recently renewed NP, GC, and a customs form filled out. I did indicate on the form countries visited: England and COP (anticipating that the notorious question may be asked). The IO asked how long I had been away and stamped the NP. I didn't see him scanning anything.

I had a great trip, paid a visit to my parents, (took care of my Mom who broke her arm recently) and travelled across England for the first time. Absolutely enjoyed it! For those of you who are paranoid about travelling on NP with a GC - don't be afraid! It's legitimate and much easier than with RTD or Reentry permit. And don't listen to some paranoid folks here who simply lack common sense. Travel! Enjoy seeing the world! After all, isn't it what we all came to this country for?
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I strongly beleive in your points. Some people just like to misinterprete the U.S Immigration laws. I think people get in trouble at point of entry with an IO because of the nervousness they show in thier face. I have travelled numerous times in the past & did not have any problems/delay. There is no where in U.S Immigration law that says a permanent resident as a direct result of refugee status cannot renew or travel to COP. However, you cannot travel to COP while your are still on asylum status before adjustment to permanent resident status except if the service grants the permission based on special emergent circumstances.
 
Lazerthegreat said:
Immigration judges don't take citizenship interviews my friend. Do some research even before trying to scare people..
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I know you're not citizen yet.You've just got your GC and don't get confused.Nobody takes citizenship interview in courthouse.Citizenship interviews are held in immigration facilities where we find immigration Personals(Officers,judges...).whoever holds citizenship interview in there remains an immigration personal(Officer,judge...).I don't see any matter about it.It's same damn...To be understood,a real point of my post is to let our folk(or any other who may have been in same boat) to share his/her experience at citizenship interview after visitng COP.

RD Aug 22,2001
GC Sep 15,2005
Citizenship June16,2009
 
Visiting COP before getting your citizenship MAY cause some problems during naturalization interview. It doesn't mean that it WILL cause problems though... Everything else is pretty much on your own discretion guys...
 
14ksusha said:
Just came back from Dulles Airport in DC. Going through passport control was a breeze. I had my recently renewed NP, GC, and a customs form filled out. I did indicate on the form countries visited: England and COP (anticipating that the notorious question may be asked). The IO asked how long I had been away and stamped the NP. I didn't see him scanning anything.

I had a great trip, paid a visit to my parents, (took care of my Mom who broke her arm recently) and travelled across England for the first time. Absolutely enjoyed it! For those of you who are paranoid about travelling on NP with a GC - don't be afraid! It's legitimate and much easier than with RTD or Reentry permit. And don't listen to some paranoid folks here who simply lack common sense. Travel! Enjoy seeing the world! After all, isn't it what we all came to this country for?
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Glad you had fun. I think its all in the belief. Nothing is written in the law books about renewing it or not. And I honestly think no one is trying to scare people here. Its a personal choice. You did it, all the power to you and best of luck to you.

It is also written on our GC's as to how we obtained our GC's(AS6), so it is not like once you become a PR, how you obtained a GC is forgotten.

Now the problem is that in this great country, profiling is done all the time. So maybe you are from a country that is respected now but some of asylees are from countries who are labelled bad for no reason..And that is one reason that lots of officers do profile people from those countries no matter if that person is a GC holder, ASylee or even a U.S Citizen... and single them out.

So you are lucky that you are not profiled but for people who are profiled its better to be safe than sorry.

And thats one reason lots of people "scare" other people...The law is not black and white.it is grey. That grey can be turned against someone who is picked on for no reason. It happens to African Americans every day on the roads...It happens to asylees or previous asylees(at ports) who are from countries that are scrutinzed more than the others..

And it can happen during U.S Citizenship interviews for some people...that is the point.
 
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14ksusha said:
Exactly, tell me how are you going to be hurt? Point me to the part of immigration law that is going to prosecute you if you renewed your passport? I guess America didnt get much by having you all (The Paranoid Club, I call it) here - you are a typical product of a totalitarian regime. That's why you all get in trouble at the border and get unnecessary attention from the IOs - you are afraid of authorities and it is written on your nervous faces.
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I do have a great sympathy for you as courageous women...
but the fact of telling people "you can do what I did" is completely dopey.
yes people get hurt :
*same of them get blackmailed by embassies when they try renewing NP .
*others arrested by COP officers after the discovery of AS6 code.
* same of them get arrested coming back of COP after newly getting GC.
let me tell you something very important : no body ,no single applicant share his naturalization experience ...while everybody proudly telling his story about going back to COP!!!
imagine people spend time to study..sweat to establish themselves..struggle to buy house/married /get kids..always working hard and through time they start losing most of their connection with their COP...do you think is worthy to take unnecessary risk by doing what you did?
 
jubilee said:
I do have a great sympathy for you as courageous women...
but the fact of telling people "you can do what I did" is completely dopey.
yes people get hurt :
*same of them get blackmailed by embassies when they try renewing NP .
*others arrested by COP officers after the discovery of AS6 code.
* same of them get arrested coming back of COP after newly getting GC.
let me tell you something very important : no body ,no single applicant share his naturalization experience ...while everybody proudly telling his story about going back to COP!!!
imagine people spend time to study..sweat to establish themselves..struggle to buy house/married /get kids..always working hard and through time they start losing most of their connection with their COP...do you think is worthy to take unnecessary risk by doing what you did?
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Absolutely right.
 
wantmygcnow said:
Glad you had fun. I think its all in the belief. Nothing is written in the law books about renewing it or not. And I honestly think no one is trying to scare people here. Its a personal choice. You did it, all the power to you and best of luck to you.

It is also written on our GC's as to how we obtained our GC's(AS6), so it is not like once you become a PR, how you obtained a GC is forgotten.

Now the problem is that in this great country, profiling is done all the time. So maybe you are from a country that is respected now but some of asylees are from countries who are labelled bad for no reason..And that is one reason that lots of officers do profile people from those countries no matter if that person is a GC holder, ASylee or even a U.S Citizen... and single them out.

So you are lucky that you are not profiled but for people who are profiled its better to be safe than sorry.

And thats one reason lots of people "scare" other people...The law is not black and white.it is grey. That grey can be turned against someone who is picked on for no reason. It happens to African Americans every day on the roads...It happens to asylees or previous asylees(at ports) who are from countries that are scrutinzed more than the others..

And it can happen during U.S Citizenship interviews for some people...that is the point.
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I agree that they do some kind of profiling. Another thing to keep in mind is that every case is pretty unique. If you are a gay or religious case then you probably can go to COP and come back without problems because it's not written on your face that you are a gay or a follower of a particular church. However just imagine yourself being a jew who just escaped from nazi Germany and who was granted an asylum in the U.S. or being from Ruanda during genocide and civil war. Why would you want to renew your passport in the first place if you know that at any point of time you can be executed back home. So my point that with respect to passport renewal and going back to COP every case is unique and you better have a good reason and have something to say to USCIS authority about why you have visited COP. If an immigration officer will start to scrutinize your case he or she may find that mother's broken arm is not a sufficient reason. If someone will say that under no circumstances an immigration officer can deny your application for citizenship because you have visited COP and renewed your passport I will probably question this statement because I remember reading about at least two such cases on this board.
 
hi,Ihave problem can you help me? I applied for citizenship and I already had the appointment day for interview. about 10days ago. I was there for interview and waited to call amost 3 hours. but when I was called, i was told that my file could not be found. it could be hidden somewhere and they told me to go home, wait for them to find it and they will call me.I was so supprise because it was so strange. It was supposed to be prepared before they sent me the appointment. why could that happen? can you tell me what should I do if they can't find my file? and you know that it took a long wait to apply for citizenship.Please give me some advice if you can. thank you.
 
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jjj3 ,
alien files are missplaced all the time , from what i can tell you on the wrong thread , try US Citizenship
Gather all your documents , as in interview letter , fingerprints , everything you go from them tru all those years and visit them every month or so

i remember reading about some case where this guys file was lost but the interview officer went with the interview anyways and he was told that even if they dont find his file they will reach a decission after "xx" amount of days

good luck
 
14ksusha said:
Just came back from Dulles Airport in DC. Going through passport control was a breeze. I had my recently renewed NP, GC, and a customs form filled out. I did indicate on the form countries visited: England and COP (anticipating that the notorious question may be asked). The IO asked how long I had been away and stamped the NP. I didn't see him scanning anything.

I had a great trip, paid a visit to my parents, (took care of my Mom who broke her arm recently) and travelled across England for the first time. Absolutely enjoyed it! For those of you who are paranoid about travelling on NP with a GC - don't be afraid! It's legitimate and much easier than with RTD or Reentry permit. And don't listen to some paranoid folks here who simply lack common sense. Travel! Enjoy seeing the world! After all, isn't it what we all came to this country for?
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I would not call it paranoia. It's just there are two type of asylees:

1. Asylees who are afraid to get in trouble, lose their status and end up back in hell

2. Asylees who don't care about it and/or who don't know what being hell feels like.

Again having a good reason to go back is an exception. It is just an opinion so please don't judge.
 
Paranoia

Comrade, I fought hard with my inner devils not to comment but I cannot control my hysteric laughter. I am afraid that you are proving to the entire world, without any help from anyone, that you may indeed be suffering from paranoia. This is why:

(1) If I have read it carefully, 14ksusha's message [BTW: 14ksusha - welcome back :)] was not addressed to you directly so why did feel that you had to respond to it as if it was personally addressed to you?

(2) You may be right about your classification of asylees and how they feel. But you have again missed the point - 14ksusha was not addressing asylees but those who have adjusted and received their GC. As we had previously discussed this issue at length, there is quite a difference in status under the eyes of the law. But if one insists that he does not want to get rid of his previous status and wants to get stuck in the old status, then one should be allowed to do so. After all, this is a free country.

For your information my dictionary defines paranoia as follows: "a mental disorder characterized by systematized delusions and the projection of personal conflicts, which are ascribed to the supposed hostility of others, sometimes progressing to disturbances of consciousness and aggressive acts believed to be performed in self-defense or as a mission."

ayyubov said:
I would not call it paranoia. It's just there are two type of asylees:

1. Asylees who are afraid to get in trouble, lose their status and end up back in hell

2. Asylees who don't care about it and/or who don't know what being hell feels like.

Again having a good reason to go back is an exception. It is just an opinion so please don't judge.
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