Anyone with a lawsuit against USCIS or thinking about a lawsuit (Merged)

wenlock said:
Ok great I got your point. I sent you email on your yahoo address with related case and motion to dismiss answer all credit goes to Paz1960 for his kindness for forwarding that case to me. Due to privacy issues I am not attaching that file to this post.
Hi Wenlock / paz 1960!
I would apprecaite if you can post here or PM me the the related case examples in response to "motion to dismiss". Although my case is almost three weeks old now and appears on track, I want to be prepared for the worst. I would appreciate that.
 
Turk007 said:
Thank you very much for your answers. They were helpful. I know i cant work without an EAD and I was honest and told my employer. They are hopefull i will have it before Jan 17th. I am hoping maybe i can get leave of absence til the new one comes. I have done lots of research through this forum. I have written the complaint letter, filled out the civil cover sheet, got all the papers i got from INS. Letters from INS regards to case status request. I contacted congressman, senators, they were unable to help me. I sent the lawsuit papers to district director and she told me she will work on it, but for some reason i dont trust her, i dont think she is working on it, if she wanted to help and get it done, she could do it in one day. 15 months maybe not a long time but according to the law, they were suppose to get our green cards within 120-180 days, they dont obey their own rules, what are we suppose to do? We have lives, you have family, we have bills to pay, kids to feed. I shouldnt have to put my live on hold for this crap. All i have to lose if i lose the case is money, what the hell, i already spent thousands, what if i spend some more, make the government richer and myself poorer. I tried to get a lawer but couldnt find one that will take my case. I dont trust lawers anyways. There is a wonderful saying "IF YOU WANT SOMETHING DONE, DO IT YOURSELF". I am an educated man, a very smart one as well. I wont let this system beat me. I have seen cases where a lot of people succeded, why not me, or you or anybody else who is trying to do the same thing.
Before i made my mind about the lawsuit, i looked at the previous threads and learned a lot. I think i have a good case, its up to the judge to decide how good it is. Maybe he/she will be sorry for me and help me or he/she will be a jerk and deny it, what do i have to lose? Money. What the hell, money comes and goes. What if i dont eat for a week, what if i dont work for a month, its not the end of the damn world. I wont know until i file and see the result, I lose i lose, i win more power to me and others trying to sue the government. I even contacted CNN to make news out of it, i waiting a respond from Lou Dobbs and Wolf bilitzard.. Why not show the real face of this system and government on national tv. Why not make officals faces red? maybe our voices will be heard. Maybe not, but wont know until we try, and i am determined to do so. I am not gonne let bunch of idiots running this government to ruin my life and my family's life. WE HAVE TO FIGHT TO WIN THIS. as a group i am sure we can show power and overcome this government and CONQUER. Thanks for your response again, and i will try to update on my situation on daily basis.
I like your attitute and determination to pick up the fight and never give up. That's the spirit which made this country great and worth to go through all this pain to become a citizen of it.

One thing what I would recommend. Don't let your emotions to reign on you. In each phase of this ordeal try to maintain your calm professionalism. Show them that you are superior and you treat them with respect and courtesy. Sometimes this is really hard, but in many cases will pay off. This will be especially important when you will contact the Assistant US Attorney, who will handle your complaint. If you manage to build a good working relationship with him/her, you have a much better chance. They can make a real difference, and they can pressure FB and USCIS like we won't ever be able to do so.

Unfortunately, there is no statue or regulation, which mandates USCIS to adjudicate your AOS in certain number of days. The 120-180 days are only guidelines, not mandatory for them. This is why is so hard to fight these cases.
 
sfdurrani said:
Hi Wenlock / paz 1960!
I would apprecaite if you can post here or PM me the the related case examples in response to "motion to dismiss". Although my case is almost three weeks old now and appears on track, I want to be prepared for the worst. I would appreciate that.
The "Opposition to the motion to dismiss" mentioned by wenlock is from a case, which is still pending in court. It is possible that the Plaintiff is a member of this forum and for privacy reasons, we didn't want to post his case here.

I could not figure out yet how to attach anything to a PM. If you send me a PM with your e-mail, I can send you this case.
 
Where to serve the summons to FBI?

A quick question: I listed the Director of FBI as one of the defendants in my law suite. Does anyone know where should I serve the summon for Mr. Mueller to?

I sent it to the atturney for the department of DHS but it was returned as service not accepted.

Thank you in advance.

NShan.
 
nshan said:
A quick question: I listed the Director of FBI as one of the defendants in my law suite. Does anyone know where should I serve the summon for Mr. Mueller to?

I sent mine by certified mail to:

Robert S. Mueller
Director of Federal Bureau of Investigation
Federal Bureau of Investigation
J. Edgar Hoover Building
935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20535-0001

I did not receive the green slip from postal service. However, the court accepted the online confirmation as the proof of service in my case.
 
Turk007 said:
One more thing, This will amaze all of you who read it, and i feel like i should let everbody know about it. I recently found out that an old friend of mine applied for his green card and got his green card in less than 2 months. Yes you read it right, LESS THEN TWO MONTHS. He said he applied January 06 and got it like in march. He came here as a student and overstayed his visa, he even has criminal records, was illegal when he applied for green card. Can anybody make sense of this? How is it possible that he got his green card in less than 2 months? Even his lawer was shocked, he said. If anybody has an answer for this, please let me know. It sure does not sound fair to any of us who have been waiting for months. I have a big problem when an illegal person who pays no taxes, uses our tax dollars for health care and has criminal records get his/her green card wayyyyyy before a person who pays taxes, have been legal, and no criminal history. Does anybody feel the same way? or is it just me? Any ideas would be helpful to understand this system.

Thanks
Turk007
There are all kind of similar stories out there. You should not pay too much attention to these (just to preserve your mental health). Remember, this fight is not about changing and fixing the whole system. And it is not personal in that sense that do not think that they are doing this with you on purpose, because they don't like you or anything else. It is a huge bureaucratic machinery, which doesn't work as well as we would like to see. Concentrate only on your case and try to look it as a lawyer would do, i.e., without getting too emotional. There are some rules what you have to follow, try to make out the best you can from these rules. It is unlikely that you can change the rules, but there is a good chance that playing by the rules ultimately you will prevail. It is not very revolutionary, I admit, but I'm also not 18 years old anymore... If you stay focused on your ultimate goal (to get your case solved) and you never give up and let your emotions to reign on you, ultimately you will succeed.
 
I have a question, I filed WOM on November 28th through my attorney. The US attorney has been served.

He still has not recieved signature confirmation from other defendants.

My question are:

1. How long will it take for a US government Attorney to be assigned to case?

2. My lawyer is lazy, is it possible I can contact and talk to the US attorney or they wont talk to me?

Thanks!
 
Circus

sfdurrani said:
Hello guys,
......He then mentioned that there is backlog even in expedited name check..... QUOTE]

Looks like USCIS is running a circus!!! Let's put every future plan of ours on the back burner and watch it!!!!!!
 
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paz1960:
I am an optimist. From the information you mention, it looks like the AUSA is trying to help, which I think is the most important factor. So I believe your case will be resolved sooner or latter (i mean 30 days extension for the worst). One wining case from my district had an extension request from AUSA. In the letter, the AUSA made it very clear that he is working on it and the case had received SINIFICANT progress (one plaintiff's case approved, and the other is waiting). So keep your spirit up, you will get there soon. Wish you the best.

BTW, my case has been filed for a week. I got the green return slip from my district AUSA. Should I call them now or wait after I file the serve certificates.

paz1960 said:
Thanks for the congratulations, but is premature. We have a saying in my native country: Don't drink in advance to the skin of the bear still in the forest. (I'm sure that there is something similar in almost any language).

If you read carefully the posted e-mail from AUSA, there is no definite promise or timeframe, my feeling is that there will be several further rounds in this "match". Let's hope that I'm wrong...
 
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Wenlock / paz 1960!
I have the exactly same feeling as sfdurrani. please give us imformation about this to prepare for the worst.

sfdurrani said:
Hi Wenlock / paz 1960!
I would apprecaite if you can post here or PM me the the related case examples in response to "motion to dismiss". Although my case is almost three weeks old now and appears on track, I want to be prepared for the worst. I would appreciate that.
 
Preperation

huxf said:
Wenlock / paz 1960!
I have the exactly same feeling as sfdurrani. please give us imformation about this to prepare for the worst.

I agree you should hope for best and prepare for the worst. I am putting together all important cases and judgement arguments. Here is some important information I found on the web.

COURT DEVELOPMENTS
Courts Reject Danilov in Natz Delay Actions, Finding Jurisdiction
(Posted 12/6/06)

Numerous district courts nationwide are rejecting the government’s arguments that Danilov v. Aguirre, 370 F. Supp 2d 441 (E.D. Va. 2005) applies. Instead, the courts are finding that they have jurisdiction over petitions for hearing on naturalization applications brought under INA § 336(b), 8 U.S.C. § 1447(b), even when the FBI check is not complete.

The INA requires the government to make a determination on naturalization applications within 120 days of the interview (i.e., the “examination.”) If the application is not adjudicated 120 days after the “examination is conducted,” under INA § 336(b), an applicant may file a petition in district court seeking judicial adjudication of the application or a remand to USCIS. The government takes the position that the “examination” encompasses the entire process that USCIS uses to gather information about an applicant, including the completion of the FBI check. Therefore, the government argues, if the FBI check still is pending, the 120-day period has not begun running. The district court in Danilov adopted this reasoning and dismissed the petition where the FBI check was not complete. At least four courts have followed Danilov.


Kassemi v. DHS, 06-1010, 2006 US Dist Lexis 74516 (D.N.J. Oct. 13, 2006)
Walji v. Gonzales, 06-1163 (S.D. Tex. dismissed Oct. 6, 2006)
Damra v. Chertoff, No. 05-929, 2006 U.S. LEXIS 45563 (N.D. Ohio 2006)
Abdelkhaleq v. BCIS Dist. Dir., No. 06-427, 2006 U.S. LEXIS 50949 (N.D. Ind. 2006)

Other courts, however, interpret the 120-day period as running from the date of the naturalization interview.


U.S.A. v. Hovsepian, 359 F.3d 1144 (9th Cir. 2004)
Khelifa v. Chertoff, 433 F. Supp. 2d 836 (E.D. Mich. 2006)
Castracani v. Chertoff, 377 F. Supp. 2d 71 (D.D.C. 2005)
Shalabi v. Gonzales, No. 06-866, 2006 U.S. Dist. Lexis 77096 (E.D. Mo. Oct. 23, 2006)
Said v. Gonzales, No. 06-986, 2006 U.S. Dist. Lexis 67750 (W.D. Wash. Sept. 21, 2006)
Meyersiek v. USCIS, No. 05-398, 2006 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 37255 (D.R.I. 2006)
Daami v. Gonzales, No. 05-3667, 2006 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 37539 (D.N.J. 2006)
Zhang v. Chertoff, No. 05-72121, 2006 U.S Dist. LEXIS 45313 (E.D. Mich. 2006)
Khan v. Chertoff, No. 05-560, 2006 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 48937 (D. Ariz. 2006)
Al-Kudsi v. Gonzales, No. 05-1584 (D. Ore. Mar. 22, 2006) (unpublished)
Shalan v. Chertoff, No. 05-10980, 2006 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 253 (D. Mass. 2006)
Saidi v. Jenifer, No. 05-71832, 2005 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 35466 (E.D. Mich. 2005)
Essa v. USCIS, No. 05-1449, 2005 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 38803 (D. Minn. 2005)
El-Daour v. Chertoff, No. 04-1911, 2005 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 18325 (W.D. Pa. 2005)
Angel v. Ridge, No. 04-4121, 2005 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 10667 (S.D. Ill. 2005)
Sweilem v. USCIS, No. 05-125, 2005 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 19630 (N.D. Ohio 2005)

Despite finding jurisdiction over the petitions, many of the courts ultimately declined to adjudicate the applications and remanded to CIS because the FBI checks were not complete. In several cases where the FBI checks had been completed, the courts still remanded the naturalization applications to CIS for adjudication. Notably, in Meyersiek v. USCIS, the district court, after rejecting Danilov and finding jurisdiction over the case, held a hearing on the merits of the naturalization application. The case docket and filed documents are available on PACER.

In another case of particular note, Al-Kudsi v. Gonzales, the district court ordered Attorney General Gonzales to instruct the FBI to complete a name check for a naturalization applicant awaiting a decision for several years. The court said that if USCIS did not receive a completed name check within 90 days, USCIS shall treat that failure as a successfully completed name check and issue the certificate of naturalization. In a footnote, the court observed that the FBI is a component of the Department of Justice. Thus, it was important that the petitioner in the INA § 336(b) action had named not only DHS officials, but the Attorney General as well. The court’s order is available on PACER.

Jurisdiction Over Natz Application After INA § 336(b) Action Filed
(Posted 11/20/06)

In cases of first impression in the Fourth Circuit, the court is considering whether DHS has jurisdiction to adjudicate a naturalization petition after a petition for naturalization is filed with the district court under INA 336(b). The cases are Etape v. Chertoff, No. 06-1916 and Rahim v. Caterisano, et al., No. 06-1990. AILF's Legal Action Center filed an amicus brief in support of the petitioners on November 16, 2006. The LAC argues that the district court has sole jurisdiction over a naturalization case filed under INA § 336(b).

District Court Sua Sponte Dismisses Natz Delay Suits Under Danilov
(Posted 11/7/06)

Four § 336(b) suits in the district court for the Southern District of Texas, Houston were dismissed sua sponte for alleged lack of subject matter jurisdiction prior to service of the complaints on defendant. The court based its dismissals on the fact that the 120-day period had not been triggered because the FBI checks had not been completed. The dismissal follows the reasoning set forth in Danilov v. Aguirre, 370 F. Supp 2d 441 (E.D. Va. 2005), discussed below.

AILF’s Legal Action Center filed amicus letter briefs in support of motions to reconsider in each of the four cases. In its letter briefs, AILF argued that sua sponte dismissal was inappropriate under Fifth Circuit law because the conclusion that it lacked jurisdiction was also a decision on the merits of the plaintiff’s cause of action. Plaintiffs thus were entitled to an opportunity to brief the issue prior to the court ruling. Days after the motions were filed, the court summarily denied two of the motions. Let us know if a court similarly dismisses your client’s petition. Email us at clearinghouse@ailf.org.

The four cases were dismissed by the same judge. Other judges in this district have not dismissed cases under the theory that the 120-day period has not been triggered because the FBI checks are not complete.

Class Actions Filed; Call for Plaintiffs
(Posted 8/14/06)

Three class actions filed during the spring and summer 2006 ask the courts to order CIS to issue decisions on naturalization applications pending for more than 120 days after the interview. The complaints name DHS and CIS officers as plaintiffs, but also name the Attorney General and the Director of the FBI. The complaints allege that the FBI fails to complete background checks within a reasonable amount of time.

The first case, Alsamman v. Gonzales, No. 06-2518, was filed May 4, 2006 in the United States District Court for the Northern District of Illinois. The plaintiffs filed an amended complaint on June 23, 2006. The plaintiffs are represented by the Competition Law Group LLC, National Immigrant Justice Center, and the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Chicago Chapter. The proposed class consists of "[a]ll Muslim males, or those males appearing Muslim on the basis of their ethnic heritage due to their national origin, who are or will be LPRs applying for naturalization to become US citizens, and whose swearing in ceremony has been delayed more than 120 days since the applicant passed his naturalization interview." On July 18, 2006, the government filed a motion to dismiss.

The second case, Yakubova v. Chertoff, 06 Civ. 3203, was filed on June 28, 2006 in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York. The plaintiffs, represented by the New York Legal Assistance Group, are naturalization applicants residing in Kings, Nassau, Queens, Richmond and Suffolk counties in New York State. The plaintiffs have filed a motion for class certification, and the defendants have indicated that they will be filing a motion to dismiss.

The third case, Aziz v. Gonzales, was filed by the ACLU of Southern California, the ACLU Immigrants Rights Project and the Counsel on American-Islamic Relations, California Chapter on August 1, 2006 in the United States District Court for the Central District of California. A press release and the complaint are available here.

The current proposed class in the California case includes immigrants who submitted their applications at the CIS Los Angeles Office and its suboffices and who have been awaiting a decision for more than 120 days after their interviews. Attorneys for the plaintiffs are considering expanding the class throughout the Ninth Circuit. If you have a Ninth Circuit client whose case has been pending for more than 120 days after the interview, please contact Cecillia Wang at cwang@aclu.org or (415) 343-0775 for information about possible participation in the lawsuit.
 
betaMichigan said:
I have a question, I filed WOM on November 28th through my attorney. The US attorney has been served.

He still has not recieved signature confirmation from other defendants.

My question are:

1. How long will it take for a US government Attorney to be assigned to case?

2. My lawyer is lazy, is it possible I can contact and talk to the US attorney or they wont talk to me?

Thanks!
Please see posting #7279 for my answers to these questions.
 
WOM filed 12/12/06
Got second fingerprint notice yesterday.
First fingerprint done 08/18/06. I think fingerprint good fro 1.5ys, right?

I know ot has nothing to do with the WOM becuase they havn't gotten anything by the time they sent me the notce.

BUT, Is this a good sign, name check done? or just nothing?
 
huxf said:
WOM filed 12/12/06
Got second fingerprint notice yesterday.
First fingerprint done 08/18/06. I think fingerprint good fro 1.5ys, right?

I know ot has nothing to do with the WOM becuase they havn't gotten anything by the time they sent me the notce.

BUT, Is this a good sign, name check done? or just nothing?
Good sign, near adjudication.
 
huxf said:
WOM filed 12/12/06
Got second fingerprint notice yesterday.
First fingerprint done 08/18/06. I think fingerprint good fro 1.5ys, right?

I know ot has nothing to do with the WOM becuase they havn't gotten anything by the time they sent me the notce.

BUT, Is this a good sign, name check done? or just nothing?
In one court case I saw two letters as exhibits. In the first letter Plaintiff requested an appointment from USCIS for a second FP, claiming that the first FP is more than 1.5ys old and is expired. In the second letter USCIS responded that because the name check is still pending, they are not scheduling the second FP. As soon as the name check will be cleared, they will schedule the second FP. If this is their policy, you should be really close now to the adjudication.
 
But my 1st is not going to expire until next Feb (18months by then). So if it is close to the adjudication, they should have plenty time to wrap up before next Feb.
I hope that is the case. I don't care if I wasted $350.
It would be funny that I filed WOM on 12/12/06 and CIS sent me the 2nd finger print notice on the exact same day!!!

paz1960, I PMed you. I still would like to prepare for the worst.
paz1960 said:
In one court case I saw two letters as exhibits. In the first letter Plaintiff requested an appointment from USCIS for a second FP, claiming that the first FP is more than 1.5ys old and is expired. In the second letter USCIS responded that because the name check is still pending, they are not scheduling the second FP. As soon as the name check will be cleared, they will schedule the second FP. If this is their policy, you should be really close now to the adjudication.
 
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huxf said:
But my 1st is not going to expire until next Feb (18months by then). So if it is close to the adjudication, they should have plenty time to wrap up before next Feb.
I hope that is the case. I don't care if I wasted $350.
It would be funny that I filed WOM on 12/12/06 and CIS sent me the 2nd finger print notice on the exact same day!!!

paz1960, I PMed you. I still would like to prepare for the worst.
I vaguely remeber that I saw in some place that the fingerprint is valid only 15 months, not 1.5years (can somebody verify this?). You wrote that your first FP would expire next February (counting 18 months), maybe they asked the new FP because counting with 15 months, the expiration date is December 2006.

I send you an e-mail to the address you provided in your PM.
 
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Black day, I lost my case in the worst way

Details:
N-400 PD: 11/17/2005
ID: 4/21/06
1447(b): 8/28/06
30 days extension as of 10/27/2006
defendants filed for motion to remand on 11/21/06
I filed an opposition next day
The judge made a judgement today:
Remanding the case to the USCIS WITHOUT any instructions, he even didn't take teh time to have somebody print the order to remand, just signed on teh bottom of teh defendants motion "it is so granted"
I will have to prepare for an appeal, what should I do now???
My case was filed in Las Vegas, NV
It worths mentioning that my judge once denied the freedom of speech to an author who writes books, yes, this happened in America.
 
lenscrafterslen said:
thanks aka808. that's great advice. can i know what happened in your case? did the AUSA asked for an extension? did you get to talk to your AUSA at all before the pre-trial date?

in my case, i have found out who he is and tried to contact him. but he never returned my calls.

After my first pre-trial i got a letter from the USCIS requesting a followup interview. The AUSA asked for initial extension due to a family emergency which was only for a week. I did email him a few times before the hearing and after calling a few hundred times finally got to talk to him on the phone.

After the pre-trial i have had no contact with him.
 
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