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90 days before qualification question and some other Qs

Friends,

N-400 instruction says we can file 90 days before the 5 years deadline. Does this '90 days' criteria applies to when INS receives the application or mailing date?

With N-400 I am planning to send GC (front/back) copy, 2 pictures and personal check. Is it enough?

Thanks!
 
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In general, it is better to sign and mail the application within the period, and to be safer count 85 days instead of 90. My advice to sleep better would be to count 85 days and sign, date and mail the application no earlier than that.

My 2 cents.
 
atl_citizen said:
Friends,

N-400 instruction says we can file 90 days before the 5 years deadline. Does this '90 days' criteria applies to when INS receives the application or mailing date?

With N-400 I am planning to send GC (front/back) copy, 2 pictures and personal check. Is it enough?

Thanks!
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It applies to date USCIS receives your application as the PD is based on receive date.

Read the guide as to what to include in your application:

www.uscis.gov/files/article/M-476.pdf
 
Thanks one more question!

Appreciate quick reply!

In the application, we need to provide A number for kids. One of my kid is US citizen, do we need to provide A number for him? If yes, what number is this?
 
Experts please help me the A number for kid born here

Could anyone please guide me the question post in the my previous message.
TIA
 
Don't push the limits. Even if you are technically correct with your dates, USCIS will sometimes miscount or misinterpret and reject the application before the interview, causing you to waste a couple of months. People have been rejected for signing the form with a date of 91 days prior, even though it arrived at USCIS after the 90-day mark. And people who were exactly on 90 days got rejected because USCIS miscounted by a day.

So to be safe, don't allow the postmark date, the signing date, or the arrival date to be on the 90-day mark or before. Don't end up wasting 2 months because you were trying to save 2 days.
 
Jackolantern said:
Don't push the limits. Even if you are technically correct with your dates, USCIS will sometimes miscount or misinterpret and reject the application before the interview, causing you to waste a couple of months. People have been rejected for signing the form with a date of 91 days prior, even though it arrived at USCIS after the 90-day mark. And people who were exactly on 90 days got rejected because USCIS miscounted by a day.

So to be safe, don't allow the postmark date, the signing date, or the arrival date to be on the 90-day mark or before. Don't end up wasting 2 months because you were trying to save 2 days.
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Thanks Jackolantern and fbanna79.

Sorry but one more question. In the N-400 form it asks for
"Your name exactly as it appears on your Permanent Resident Card.
Given Name (First Name) Full Middle Name (If applicable)"

Problem is in my Green Card, I have only middle initial though I think I have always used my full middle name. What should I put? I have three choices (and none of them I am comfortable with).
1. Put just middle initial (same as what is in the green card)
2. Put full middle name (even though green card has initial)
3. Don't put anything.

I am putting my full middle name in the A. Your current legal name section.

Thanks.
 
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I would, and did, use option 1 the form asks for you to put youre name EXACTLY as it appears on the green card, why not just do that?
 
Eligibility-date

I got my PR on 01/15/2004. Technically, I should be eligible to apply by 10/14/2008(based on 90 days rule).
Here I am ready to file form N400, everything filled-out and ready to go.
Is it safe to send it out over this week-end(say on 10/18/2008). Or should I wait another week just to be on the safer-side.
Best Regards
 
Imihelp! We meet again. I counted that your 90 day as 10/18/2008 so I would mail it on Wednesday 10/21/2008 just to be safe.

--Rafiq
 
imihelp said:
I got my PR on 01/15/2004. Technically, I should be eligible to apply by 10/14/2008(based on 90 days rule).
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Incorrect. 10/14/2008 is 93 days before 1/15/2009.
Is it safe to send it out over this week-end(say on 10/18/2008). Or should I wait another week just to be on the safer-side.
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See how you miscounted by 3 days? They also make the same mistake sometimes, resulting in incorrect rejections. Wait until next week so you will be OK even if they miscount by 2 or 3 days.
 
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10/14/2008 - 1/15/2009 is 93 days, not 90.
10/18/2008 - 1/15/2009 is 89 days. Waiting a few more days to send it won't make a big difference in processing, but gives you more room for potential USCIS calculation errors.
 
90 days before 1/15/09 is 10/17/08.

Mine is 8/1/09 - 90 days = 10/10/08. I sent out the application on 10/11/08. I am holding my breath
 
Rafiq said:
Imihelp! We meet again. I counted that your 90 day as 10/18/2008 so I would mail it on Wednesday 10/21/2008 just to be safe.

--Rafiq
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IT IS really 10/18/2008. My bad- A language teacher taught me math in the high school;).
Rafiq.
After over half a decade, it is very nice to see you again. Here we are again for another episode of the same saga :rolleyes:(hopefully the final one).
I guess I will hold until mid of next week before sending it out.
Thanks to everyone for their suggestions, and(bonus points for those who did not use a calculator- raise your hands!;)).
 
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It would be 10/18/08 if you include 1/15/09 which,in my opinion, is not correct.
The way to count the number of days should be like this

1 day before 1/15/09 is 1/14/09
2 days before 1/15/09 is 1/13/09
...
90 days before 1/15/09 is 10/17/08
 
McTavish said:
I would, and did, use option 1 the form asks for you to put youre name EXACTLY as it appears on the green card, why not just do that?
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Hi McTavish,

First of all let me thank you for taking time and giving you opinion, appreciate it.

Option 1 sounds good, but N-400 says "Full Middle Name" and if we put middle initial, logically it is not Full Middle Name. But if I put "Full Middle Name" as suggested by form, it doesn't match other statement on the form which says exactly as it appears on Green Card.

I wish they straighten-up all these ambiguities, because it is very big deal for user/applicant of the form, not sure if INS cares that much or not.
 
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