14th Amendment: Is birthright citizenship really in the Constitution?

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Washington – Is “birthright citizenship” – the policy of granting US citizenship to every child born on national soil – really enshrined in the US Constitution? Some experts believe it isn’t.

Congress, they say, could regulate who qualifies for birthright citizenship via legislation, within limits. Lawmakers might deny it to children born in the US to illegal immigrants, for example.

This could be an important legal distinction. Circumscribing birthright citizenship with a bill would be very difficult, particularly while President Obama remains in office. But doing the same thing via the direct route of amending the Constitution would be virtually impossible.

“We do not need to amend the Constitution to end birthright citizenship,” said Rep. Lamar Smith (R) of Texas in a statement issued Tuesday.

Birthright citizenship is a hot topic in Washington nowadays because some congressional Republicans have become increasingly vocal about a desire to deny such status to the children of parents who are residing in the US illegally. The GOP leaders of both the House and Senate have said they favor holding hearings on the issue, at the least.

Many legal scholars believe that changing the policy would require changing the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, on which birthright citizenship is based. But “many” legal scholars is not the same thing as “all.”

Section 1 of the 14th Amendment begins this way: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.â€

The key phrase here is “subject to the jurisdiction thereof,â€

Illegal immigrants are not subject to US jurisdiction, in the sense that they cannot be drafted into the US military or tried for treason against the US, said John Eastman, a professor at the Chapman University School of Law, in a media conference call Monday. Their children would share that status, via citizenship in their parents’ nation or nations of birth – and so would not be eligible for a US passport, even if born on US soil, according to Dr. Eastman.

Furthermore, federal courts have upheld the right of Congress to regulate naturalization policies over and above the basic constitutional guarantee, according to Eastman. Taken together, he says, all this means lawmakers, if they choose, could deny birthright citizenship to the children of parents here illegally.

“The 14th Amendment is a floor, but how far above that floor we go is a matter of basic policy judgment that our Constitution assigns exclusively to the Congress of the United States,â€

Perhaps the defining Supreme Court ruling in this area is US v. Wong Kim Ark, an 1898 case in which justices upheld the US citizenship of a child born on US soil to Chinese immigrant parents. The parents were in the US legally, however.

“The courts apparently have never ruled on the specific [issue] of whether the native-born child of illegal aliens as opposed to the child of lawfully present aliens may be a US citizen,” concludes a 2005 Congressional Research Service report on birthright citizenship.

Defenders of the current US interpretation of birthright citizenship say that a century of legal precedents supports their view that it is defined by the Constitution itself and is beyond the reach of congressional reinterpretation.

The wording of the 14th Amendment means what it says, they say. The “subject to the jurisdiction” phrase today excludes the children of diplomats, who are immune from most US civil and criminal laws by treaty.

“Those who want to read it narrowly ... are simply wrong,” said Elizabeth Wydra, chief counsel of the Constitutional Accountability Center, in a recent conference call.
 
Washington – Is “birthright citizenship” – the policy of granting US citizenship to every child born on national soil – really enshrined in the US Constitution? Some experts believe it isn’t.
I bet the same people claim that Obama is not a US born citizen and therefore shouldn't be allowed to be president.
 
I find that in this country, you can actually find experts on both sides of the issue, with different views. I've always wondered, what makes them experts? I mean, the GOP is using this issue to gin up large turnout at the polls this Nov, so that they can win control of the House. You can bet a raccoon that this issue is this summer's flavor, you won't hear about this issue comes 2012, because all the bigots would be trying to win the Latino votes. Hypocrisy is the fuel of politics in this country.
 
Nativists trying to eat away immigrant rights. If they ever get this, they will probably try to extend the same to legal immigrants, probably saying that as legal immigrants are not citizens they are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof ;) I think this is political posturing going into the November election. However, this could turn against the people proposing this. It is a risky calculation, energize their radical anti-immigrant base or alienate the immigrant friendly voters. I for one wouldn't vote for any of the aforementioned politicians that support this position.
 
just to interpret this amendment more norrowly: Any legal resident (not born, not naturalized but legal) is not subject to any jurisdiction hence, no local laws (anywhere in the country) apply to any and every legal resident. but, citizens (born as well as naturalized) and only citizens belong in a jurisdiction. :)
 
I like that interpretation, any legal or illegal immigrant shouldn't pay any taxes as they wouldn't be subject to the US jurisdiction and any fines or felonies should be immediately absolved for the same reason. Truth is that illegal immigrants are subject to the jurisdiction of the US and their children too. They want immigrants (illegal or legal) to comply and be subject to any laws and taxation, but when it comes to rights they want none for them, not even birthrights. It makes me sick. What do they want, create a caste system in the U.S.?
 
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