140 Rfe

gcbear

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Hello,

I just received an RFE on my 140 application. It is for my education evaluation. I know there are thousands of threads regarding education evaluation RFE, but I could not find any which would answer my exact question. Following is the exact wording from my RFE:

It has been determined after review that an advisory evaluation of the beneficiary's formal education must be obtained before a decision can be made. This evaluation is necessary to determine the level and major field of educational attainment, as described in the supporting documents, in terms of equivalent education in the United States. An acceptable evaluation should -
1. Consider formal education only, not practical experience;
2. State if the collegiate training was post-secondary education, i.e., whether the applicant completed the United States equivalent of high school before entering college;
3. Provide a detailed explanation of the material evaluated;
4. Briefly state the qualifications and experience of the evaluator providing the opinion.
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I have a 4 year B.E degree in instrumentation engineering. I am not sure what was specified in the labor application.

I have the following questions:
1) What does the #2 in the RFE mean? Do they need education evaluation for my high school degree?
2) For all the people who have got education evaluation RFE's did anybody get a similarly worded RFE? Do they specify the same thing that was specified in my RFE or is it something else?
3) Do I just need to send an education evaluation from TrustForte and that would be enough or do I need to send anything else in addition to the evaluation?

Any help would be appreciated.

gcbear

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EAC03244*******
140/485 ND - 9/2/2003
140 RFE ND - 6/2/2004
 
gcbear said:
Hello,

I just received an RFE on my 140 application. It is for my education evaluation. I know there are thousands of threads regarding education evaluation RFE, but I could not find any which would answer my exact question. Following is the exact wording from my RFE:

It has been determined after review that an advisory evaluation of the beneficiary's formal education must be obtained before a decision can be made. This evaluation is necessary to determine the level and major field of educational attainment, as described in the supporting documents, in terms of equivalent education in the United States. An acceptable evaluation should -
1. Consider formal education only, not practical experience;
2. State if the collegiate training was post-secondary education, i.e., whether the applicant completed the United States equivalent of high school before entering college;
3. Provide a detailed explanation of the material evaluated;
4. Briefly state the qualifications and experience of the evaluator providing the opinion.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have a 4 year B.E degree in instrumentation engineering. I am not sure what was specified in the labor application.

I have the following questions:
1) What does the #2 in the RFE mean? Do they need education evaluation for my high school degree?
2) For all the people who have got education evaluation RFE's did anybody get a similarly worded RFE? Do they specify the same thing that was specified in my RFE or is it something else?
3) Do I just need to send an education evaluation from TrustForte and that would be enough or do I need to send anything else in addition to the evaluation?

Any help would be appreciated.

gcbear

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EAC03244*******
140/485 ND - 9/2/2003
140 RFE ND - 6/2/2004
Hi GCBEAR..
I had the same RFE exactly the same wordings. I have a mechanical BE .
My Lawyer got educational evaluation for my BE degree. The lawyer also attached a letter stating that to get into a Degree course in India a high school diploma in our case HSC in science is a prerequisite.
So my lawyer got my Xth, XIth and XIIth evaluation and also BE evaluation done. I can ask them which service they used to get my degrees evaluated.
I dont know what they sent for Item 3 and 4, but I can findout tomorow for you.
Later ..
NVC
 
Need help with RFE abt education evaluation

NVC,

I really appreciate your response.
-The letter that your lawyer attached, did he write it up himself? Can you please let me know exactly what he wrote in that letter?
-Regarding the Xth, XIth and XIIth evaluation, which company did they use and what exactly paperwork was given to the evaluators? Was it only marksheets or something else? Also is this evaluation part of the "academic evaluation" that they do, or is it called something else?
-Also if possible pls let me know what they sent for #3.
-BTW did you get a response to your RFE reply?

Thanks again for the response....any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Hi Gcbear,

I got same RFE with same wordings on May 13th 2004 and I replied on June 1st 2004 .I sent my education evaluation certificates and degree certificates . I am having B.Tech in Mechanical Engineering.
INS received my RFE and updated the message .Again they updated the system on 3rd June , 4 th June and 7 th June 2004.
Did anybody got approval regarding this RFE .
When you got the RFE? Please let me know.
I got my Education Evaluation from Globe Language services.
WWW.GlobeLanguage.com
ND : 08/18/2003
EB3
We don't need to get the evaluation of High School .
In your Degree evaluation they will mention Enrollment in XXXX University is based on graduation from High School.
NVC , when you got the RFE and when you replied back RFE. Did they updated the system .Did you get Approval.Please let me know
 
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Hi GCBEAR and gcwaiting2001

GCBEAR ..
I am going to talk to my lawyer today and get all the information..as to which evaluation service they used.
If they also got my XII evaluated with the BE Mechnaical degree and what was the content of the letter.
The more I think the more worried I get and start doubting the intelligence of the people working in my lawyers office.

GCWAITING2001..
USCIS received the reply to my RFE on 4th June.. last update date changed to 6th , 7th and then today the 8th.
This shows that my case is being worked on.

This is the note that you see on the USCIS website after you logon which clearly states that the last update date might keep changing but not the status message.
NVC said:
"* Note on "Last Updated" date:
Your case may have a new "Last Updated" date and you may receive an Email Notification of your case being updated, without the status of the case changing. This is due to internal USCIS processing being performed on your Case. This will be reflected in the "Last Updated" date, but may not result in a different status message."

As you can see that our last update dates might keep changing which indicates that they are working on our case and once they take any decision they will update the status and notify out lawyer.

Will get back to you guys after I get RFE response details from my lawyer.
Take care guys ..
NVC
 
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RFE issued on I-140

Hi,
Here are my details:
I-140 and I-485 ND and RD are 09/30/2003
RFE issued on 06/07/2003

Haven't received the RFE yet, but I am suspecting it will be on education as I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering too.

I want to know what was stated in the labor (education required) for the once who received RFE.

Mine:
Education: Masters* in Engg or Comp Scien or Math
Experience: One year in computer related field.

It is also stated that Bachelors plus 5 yrs of experience will be considered in lieu of Masters.

Please share your details too.

Has anyone in similar situation get an approval after replying to the RFE?

Thanks,
GC_Kaavaali.
 
education evaluation

NVC, GCwaiting2001,

What US degree was your education evaluation done against? I currently have an education evaluation that was previously done that says my instrumentation degree is equivalent to a degree in electronics in the US. I am still trying to find out from my lawyer what exactly does my labor say.
Does it have to exactly match whats in the labor?
My lawyer is not prompt on responding to me and when I previously spoke to him said he was going to send the previous education evaluation that I have. He seems confident it will get approved but I'm sure he has no idea what he's talking about.

We just get one shot at responding to our RFE and I want to make sure the Lawyer doesnt screw it up.
 
My Attorney did the same thing . He send my previous Education Evaluation document and photcopies of Education documents.I am having B.Tech in Mech Engg.she is very confident. I already submitted my RFE on June 1st 2004.She says this is routine RFE.
Same as U.S .Bachelor's degree in Mech Engg.,
My LC says
Bachelors degree or equivalent.
major field : Computer Science, Engineering or related field.
 
Guys ..

I did have an old evaluation which my lawyer had sent with the initial 140 application package, but USCIS wanted a recent evaluation done on my BE degree.
My lawyer got a new evaluation done on my Indian Mech Engg Degree.
I did call her office today to get all the details so that I could answer most of the questuions you guys had but as usual the person assigned to handle my case is out of the office . Will try again tomorrow and let you guys know.
Later ..
NVC
 
How old was the Education Evaluation?

NVC said:
I did have an old evaluation which my lawyer had sent with the initial 140 application package, but USCIS wanted a recent evaluation done on my BE degree.
My lawyer got a new evaluation done on my Indian Mech Engg Degree.
I did call her office today to get all the details so that I could answer most of the questuions you guys had but as usual the person assigned to handle my case is out of the office . Will try again tomorrow and let you guys know.
Later ..
NVC

Hi NVC,
I got an RFE too on June 7th but I do not the content of it yet. I am guessing it would be about Education evaluation or Company's ability to pay. My lawyer submitted my old evaluation which was done in 1997 and also all the financial papers of the company. As you got it on evaluation though you submitted it, I am thinking may be evn my RFE is that.

Could you please let how old was your previuos RFE?

Thanks,
GC_Kaavaali.
 
I have instrumentation degree and I did evaluation from wes.org it says equivalent to BS Electronics in US.

My lawyer say INS will consider electrical/electronics degree same as computer science. so if you get your evaluation equal to electrical/electronics that should be fine.

And for X,XII evaluation you have you include both marksheet and passing certificates so based on your documents WES automatically add X and XII and BE degree
 
rfe

Kmunna,

whats the status on your RFE response?

your 10th and 12th evaluation was included in your BE evaluation? My lawyer said the evaluator will mention that 12th is a prerequisite to BE...not sure if this is sufficient...my lawyer seems extremely confident as this is sufficient as he says he has responded to several RFEs this way and got approval...I'm not sure though as I have seen a lot of rejections here in the forums
 
For me also same thing .
Evaluation certificate says:
Enrollment in XXXX university is based on graduation from high school; the university is an accredited institution of higher education in India .....................................................

My attoney told this is enough , we don't need separate evaluation for X & XII . She is also very confident to get approval
 
I didn't got REF...but when i applied 140/485 my lawyer include everyting.

when you send 10th and 12th mark sheet you will get 12th evaluation as a high school graduate with prerequisite 10th standard. and Bachelor's degree evaluation with prerequisite 12th.

thats what i got in my evaluation..course-by-course cost me $155
 
I sent my RFE ( Education Evaluation) for I-140 on 1 st June 2004 . My I-140 got Approved on 11 th June 2004. I received approval notice also.
 
gcwaiting2001 said:
Hi Gcbear,

I got same RFE with same wordings on May 13th 2004 and I replied on June 1st 2004 .I sent my education evaluation certificates and degree certificates . I am having B.Tech in Mechanical Engineering.
INS received my RFE and updated the message .Again they updated the system on 3rd June , 4 th June and 7 th June 2004.
Did anybody got approval regarding this RFE .
When you got the RFE? Please let me know.
I got my Education Evaluation from Globe Language services.
WWW.GlobeLanguage.com
ND : 08/18/2003
EB3
We don't need to get the evaluation of High School .
In your Degree evaluation they will mention Enrollment in XXXX University is based on graduation from High School.
NVC , when you got the RFE and when you replied back RFE. Did they updated the system .Did you get Approval.Please let me know

gcwaiting2001,

When you done your evaulations from Globe, what kind of evaulations you have selected? I mean i found in Glob website
1. USCIS (Immigration)
2. Further Education/Transfer Credits
3. Professional Certification/Employment(Course-By-Course Evaluation or Diploma/Degree Evaluation)

and 4. Professional License(Diploma/Degree Evaluation)

Please let me know what did you select from the above options?

Thanks.
 
Hi GCBEAR

gcbear said:
NVC, GCwaiting2001,Kmunna,

Any approvals after replying to the RFE...


gc_bear

I got my 140 approval email on 21st .. i.e yesterday ..
 
Congrats!!!

Congrats to both of you NVC and GCWaiting2001. I'm sure you both are on cloud 9!!! I hope I get my approval soon too. I sent my response and they received it on 6/17. What was the receipt date for your RFE responses?
 
sorry

Sorry for asking the same questions again...I see the RFE response date in your previous posts. Thx
 
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