Help Need on Affidavit of Support

[netbie]

I am a DV 2014 Winner.
My friend in USA will give me an Affidavit of Support + a JOB OFFER in his small company. He plan to give us (to me and my family) room and board.

My question is if on the part of Affidavit of Support Form that states (If you check "intend," indicate the exact nature and duration of the contributions. For example, if you intend to furnish room and board, state for how long and, if money, state the amount in U.S. dollars and whether it is to be given in a lump sum, weekly or monthly, and for how long. If he can put something like the follow:

- I intend to furnish room and board for him and his family all the necessary time until he gets employed.

Or do you have other recommendations ??????

Thanks in advance for your help.

PS- Sorry for my bad english skills, my mother tongue is spanish.

 

[oskarson]

if somebody wins the lottery,he is married and has two children as well.but he has filled all the form as a single.now he is planning to give interview as a single.can he get the visa?how consular knows that he is married?he is trying to enter usa and later on wants to call his family.is this possible??

 

[SusieQQQ]

if somebody wins the lottery,he is married and has two children as well.but he has filled all the form as a single.now he is planning to give interview as a single.can he get the visa?how consular knows that he is married?he is trying to enter usa and later on wants to call his family.is this possible??

KCC and the interviewing embassy both do background checks. They may or may not find out he has a family. But if he gets the visa, then when he tries to bring his family later they will discover he lied on his immigration application, which means he will get his green card revoked and be permanently banned from entering the US again.

I don't understand why people enter as single when they're not.

 

[c1984]

if somebody wins the lottery,he is married and has two children as well.but he has filled all the form as a single.now he is planning to give interview as a single.can he get the visa?how consular knows that he is married?he is trying to enter usa and later on wants to call his family.is this possible??

Intentionally providing false information in your petition, like claiming you are single while you are married, is immigration fraud. Nobody in here is going to advise you to do that.

I'm sorry that you made such an unfortunate mistake.

 

[Sm1smom]

if somebody wins the lottery,he is married and has two children as well.but he has filled all the form as a single.now he is planning to give interview as a single.can he get the visa?how consular knows that he is married?he is trying to enter usa and later on wants to call his family.is this possible??

The plan falls under what's called "Immigration Fraud". And next time, open your own thread. Don't hijack other people's threads by posting none-related questions.

 

[oskarson]

thanks a lot SusieQQQ,Sm1smom,C1984!i have also the same view as Sm1smom and c1984.in our country we have a small group,which provides the valuable suggestions to the people who are completely unknown about the process of DV.we try to solve all their querries by ourselves.when we donot have the actual idea then we put the question in this forum and then provide that information to them.personally, i had got a lot of information from this forum and i read all the posts dailly.some people are so innocent that they donot know even visa bulletin.due to the ignorrance very few(rare)people had filled single eventhough they are married and that they are putting question on this.i didnot have clear idea about what the result will be.so i had put this question on this forum.is this my mistake mr Sm1smom?that person who has done this mistake may leave the interview by your suggestion!so it is my humble request to you to try to understand the feeling of people.i want the answer like the answer given by SusieQQQ,Britsimon, kayend.do you think that question donot related to DV lottery?

 

[Sm1smom]

thanks a lot SusieQQQ,Sm1smom,C1984!i have also the same view as Sm1smom and c1984.in our country we have a small group,which provides the valuable suggestions to the people who are completely unknown about the process of DV.we try to solve all their querries by ourselves.when we donot have the actual idea then we put the question in this forum and then provide that information to them.personally, i had got a lot of information from this forum and i read all the posts dailly.some people are so innocent that they donot know even visa bulletin.due to the ignorrance very few(rare)people had filled single eventhough they are married and that they are putting question on this.i didnot have clear idea about what the result will be.so i had put this question on this forum.is this my mistake mr Sm1smom?that person who has done this mistake may leave the interview by your suggestion!so it is my humble request to you to try to understand the feeling of people.i want the answer like the answer given by SusieQQQ,Britsimon, kayend.do you think that question donot related to DV lottery?

I'm not sure I understand most of what you've written here, but I will attemp to respond to some of the issues you've raise that are clear to me.

- Your question is DV related and it can be posted on this forum, however not on this particular thread that you've posted under. Another forum member, netbie opened this thread to disucss issues related to an affidavit of support he could possibly get. You posted right under it a question that is not related to affidavit of support! What you should have done is to open your own thread, (still in this forum), give it an appropriate title and post your question there!! So far, all the responses on this thread has had to do with the issue you raised, none so far directed to the original poster. This is called hijacking other people's thread!

- If you want specific people to respond to your question, then indicate in your post that you only "want the answer like the answer given by SusieQQQ,Britsimon, kayend" (sic) and other people such as myself will not bother to respond.

 

[SusieQQQ]

I'm not sure I understand most of what you've written here, but I will attemp to respond to some of the issues you've raise that are clear to me.

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- If you want specific people to respond to your question, then indicate in your post that you only "want the answer like the answer given by SusieQQQ,Britsimon, kayend" (sic) and other people such as myself will not bother to respond.

I think what he meant was - I tried to explain the consequences (as opposed to just "immigration fraud" which he may not understand) and he is looking to see if others can answer more fully? (As opposed to only wanting particular people to answer)

 

[c1984]

thanks a lot SusieQQQ,Sm1smom,C1984!i have also the same view as Sm1smom and c1984.in our country we have a small group,which provides the valuable suggestions to the people who are completely unknown about the process of DV.we try to solve all their querries by ourselves.when we donot have the actual idea then we put the question in this forum and then provide that information to them.personally, i had got a lot of information from this forum and i read all the posts dailly.some people are so innocent that they donot know even visa bulletin.due to the ignorrance very few(rare)people had filled single eventhough they are married and that they are putting question on this.i didnot have clear idea about what the result will be.so i had put this question on this forum.is this my mistake mr Sm1smom?that person who has done this mistake may leave the interview by your suggestion!so it is my humble request to you to try to understand the feeling of people.i want the answer like the answer given by SusieQQQ,Britsimon, kayend.do you think that question donot related to DV lottery?

I'm sorry my friend. No body is trying to hurt feelings of anybody else.

The truth is that the mistake was very crucial. The best thing to do is to show up at the interview and explain the situation. There's a very very slight chance that the officer may still grant the visa. But showing up and claiming to be single while being married is a very very very bad idea.

Your friend should realize that any costs they may incur for their petition may be gone and result in nothing.

 

[SusieQQQ]

I'm sorry my friend. No body is trying to hurt feelings of anybody else.

The truth is that the mistake was very crucial. The best thing to do is to show up at the interview and explain the situation. There's a very very slight chance that the officer may still grant the visa. But showing up and claiming to be single while being married is a very very very bad idea.

Your friend should realize that any costs they may incur for their petition may be gone and result in nothing.

I don't think there's even a slight chance. If you leave off a derivative they will disqualify the application. I know of a case where a husband left off his children from a previous marriage - the visa was refused. For some things they say "may be disqualified" but for this they say "will be disqualified". And as you correctly point out all the costs of medical and visa fees will be lost.

 

[scusyxx]

Yes, I know couple of cases if you don't list children or derivative you will be disqualified.

btw, Is there a way to inquire about information entered during initial edv application?

I don't think there's even a slight chance. If you leave off a derivative they will disqualify the application. I know of a case where a husband left off his children from a previous marriage - the visa was refused. For some things they say "may be disqualified" but for this they say "will be disqualified". And as you correctly point out all the costs of medical and visa fees will be lost.

 

[c1984]

I don't think there's even a slight chance. If you leave off a derivative they will disqualify the application. I know of a case where a husband left off his children from a previous marriage - the visa was refused. For some things they say "may be disqualified" but for this they say "will be disqualified". And as you correctly point out all the costs of medical and visa fees will be lost.

If I'm not mistaken Raevsky posted a guideline a while ago that would leave some room for the officer to make a judgement call.

 

[Hexa]

If a DV selectee claimed to be single then show up with family, getting disqualified and denied is actually a rather mild punishment, as he effectively lied on his application. Lying on your application is ground for a permanent bar.

 

[scusyxx]

If I recall correctly, what he said was it is possible if you are doing AOS.

If I'm not mistaken Raevsky posted a guideline a while ago that would leave some room for the officer to make a judgement call.

 

[c1984]

If I recall correctly, what he said was it is possible if you are doing AOS.

That's possible.

 

[c1984]

If a DV selectee claimed to be single then show up with family, getting disqualified and denied is actually a rather mild punishment, as he effectively lied on his application. Lying on your application is ground for a permanent bar.

Are you hypothesizing or is there anything to back that up?

We have had this discussion before and I still am not convinced that I agree with the amount of weight you put on an online form that anybody could have filled.

So as long as person A has a 2x2 picture of person B that they don't like, A can enter B for the DV lottery "on their behalf" and permanently ban them from entering the country? I don't think so.

I think you're pushing it too far and that's why I don't agree with you in labeling the other issue we were discussing in the other thread as "identity theft".

 

[oskarson]

now, i got the idea why had you written the words"hijacking others threads".i am really sorry mr. Sm1smom to say that i am browsing through mobile and had tried a lot to do as you said.i would be cleared if you had clearified the way of using threads before.i wanted to do as you said but happened others which was not my intension to hijack other threads.i am really sorry as you were a right person.i equally give priority to your views as well.
i am cleared on my question as it is a immigration fraud.i will suggest him/her through post that never try to cheat the USA(or to leave the DV process right now) if you want to enter USA by others process in your life time.

 

[SusieQQQ]

Are you hypothesizing or is there anything to back that up?

We have had this discussion before and I still am not convinced that I agree with the amount of weight you put on an online form that anybody could have filled.

So as long as person A has a 2x2 picture of person B that they don't like, A can enter B for the DV lottery "on their behalf" and permanently ban them from entering the country? I don't think so.

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The point is not about lying on the online form, so as much as carrying the lie through to the DS122 and DS230 which are official immigration documents for use in the immigration petition and interview to be signed by the applicant. That IS immigration fraud and the penalty is a permanent ban.

 

[Hexa]

The point is not about lying on the online form, so as much as carrying the lie through to the DS122 and DS230 which are official immigration documents for use in the immigration petition and interview to be signed by the applicant. That IS immigration fraud and the penalty is a permanent ban.

Correct. This sentence is printed on the DS-230:

"Warning: Any false statement or concealment of a material fact may result in your permanent exclusion from the United States. Even if you are issued an immigrant visa and are subsequently admitted to the United States, providing false information on this form could be grounds for your prosecution and/or deportation."

 

[c1984]

The point is not about lying on the online form, so as much as carrying the lie through to the DS122 and DS230 which are official immigration documents for use in the immigration petition and interview to be signed by the applicant. That IS immigration fraud and the penalty is a permanent ban.

I agree with that, but that was not the point of the discussion.

The hypothetical situation was that a married person had mistakenly entered the lottery as single, then fills out DSP-122 and DS-230 truthfully as married and shows up at the interview as married.

Hexa was proposing that this could end up in a permanent ban.

I disagree with him there. I think as long as you are truthful in the official forms DSP-122 and DS-230 or when making sworn statements at the interview, there is no way you can be permanently banned jut based on the online entry form.

Similar situation with the other thread.