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Choosing the legibility country (Egypt or Saudi Arabia .. Which is best ?)

Sm1smom said:
You have completely missed it here. Changeability IS NOT based on ethnicity. There's a big difference between nativity and ethnicity.

In your particular case, I hope you've gathered enough documents to prove that your parents were temporarily residing in Nigeria as at the time of your birth. Without that, I don't see how any CO will issue you with a DV visa.
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Snap!
 
samershahin said:
I guess and its my interpretation to this issue, you should apply as Egypt, similar to my case I am Jordanian Nationality and Ethnicity is from Jordan- Middle east region, but Born in Nigeria, my Chargeability cannot be reasoned to be from Nigeria, as I lived there till the age of 4, and my Parents are from Jordan as well. So in my opinion go for the nationality and place of birth/Origin of your parents which is a match with your Ethnicity.

My understanding or interpretation, they cannot ask you to apply for your ethnicity in the Application forms, instead they would ask for the Chargeability to assure the Diversity.

Don't take my words as final/correct, but its only my understanding to this whole Diversity process.
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As the others have said - you should have put Nigerian nationality. As this is a different region to Jordan, unless you can support a claim that your parents were not resident there at the time, I'm afraid that under the rules you will be disqualified at interview.
 
SusieQQQ said:
As the others have said - you should have put Nigerian nationality. As this is a different region to Jordan, unless you can support a claim that your parents were not resident there at the time, I'm afraid that under the rules you will be disqualified at interview.
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dont they mention you can claim your chargeability based on your parents birth place, which is jordan?
since am selected already and i clearly mentioned i am born in nigeria, but charged to jordan?
 
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SusieQQQ said:
As the others have said - you should have put Nigerian nationality. As this is a different region to Jordan, unless you can support a claim that your parents were not resident there at the time, I'm afraid that under the rules you will be disqualified at interview.
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am Jordanian nationality, born in Nigeria, and don't have Nigerian nationality, would that make a difference? please explain
 
samershahin said:
am Jordanian nationality, born in Nigeria, and don't have Nigerian nationality, would that make a difference? please explain
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Your DV entry is based normally on your nativity - where you were born.

In some circumstances you can claim chargeability to another country - but you have to prove why you are chargeable to that country.

To be chargeable under your parents nativity you would need to prove they were there temporarily (but given the four year stay that is not likely) OR that they were there are part of a longer assignment for a multinational organisation. In that case you would have to have proof about that assignment. If your parents were there for that period of time because they decided to go there and live there for a while, then you cannot claim chargeability to their country.

Your nationality is completely irrelevant.

If you cannot prove the story as I have laid out, as has been said, I agree that you will be disqualified at the interview. I'm sorry.
 
Ok i got your idea about the chargeability, what about the fact both countries are eligible for the DV2014 (Jordan and Nigeria), since the statement in instructions mentions the case if your native country is ineligible?? can i get your kind opinion here?

Quote from instructions:
((Native of a qualifying country:............ Second, if you were born in a country whose natives are ineligible, but neither of your parents was born there or resided there at the time of your birth, you may claim nativity in one of your parents’ countries of birth if it is a country whose natives qualify for the DV-2014 program.))
 
samershahin said:
Ok i got your idea about the chargeability, what about the fact both countries are eligible for the DV2014 (Jordan and Nigeria), since the statement in instructions mentions the case if your native country is ineligible?? can i get your kind opinion here?

Quote from instructions:
((Native of a qualifying country:............ Second, if you were born in a country whose natives are ineligible, but neither of your parents was born there or resided there at the time of your birth, you may claim nativity in one of your parents’ countries of birth if it is a country whose natives qualify for the DV-2014 program.))
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The US law related to this called INA is bit 'complicated' than what you see in the DV instructions!!

Read the thread below on similar to your same situation. Read some of the links given in there as well.

I m sure that YOU WILL get a better understanding on your situation and this would help you prepare yourself for your intvw. See how it is compared with your situation, and if you give more of your parents' situation others may be able to chip in.

Best!

http://forums.immigration.com/showt...-parents-temporary-residents-at-time-of-birth
 
NuvF said:
The US law related to this called INA is bit 'complicated' than what you see in the DV instructions!!

Read the thread below on similar to your same situation. Read some of the links given in there as well.

I m sure that YOU WILL get a better understanding on your situation and this would help you prepare yourself for your intvw. See how it is compared with your situation, and if you give more of your parents' situation others may be able to chip in.

Best!

http://forums.immigration.com/showt...-parents-temporary-residents-at-time-of-birth
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My Father used to go to my country of Birth on business trips too frequently, actually due to that I have my Birth certificate from Jordan authorities not from Nigerian, but it mentions place of Birth as Nigeria, I think because he had to be there on Temp basis, I guess now i have to dig out very old passports if still there!!
Do i have to try reach that company at which he used to work as consultant for, get some certificate or some proof??
 
samershahin said:
My Father used to go to my country of Birth on business trips too frequently, actually due to that I have my Birth certificate from Jordan authorities not from Nigerian, but it mentions place of Birth as Nigeria, I think because he had to be there on Temp basis, I guess now i have to dig out very old passports if still there!!
Do i have to try reach that company at which he used to work as consultant for, get some certificate or some proof??
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OK so you seem to be saying it was temporary. 4 years is a long time and a father doing business trips would normally leave his family back at home - so in a sense it does not sound temporary to me.

Your birth certificate is useful being a Jordanian one. However, it is a register of your birth and as you say shows birthplace which equals nativity. However, the fact that you have a Jordanian one itself might be used to show the temporary nature of your parents stay.

However, if you want to make that argument, get anything you can that shows contracts that say he was visiting there for a short term, documents that prove they only had temporary housing there (and documents that show they kept their home in Jordan). I can't stress enough that you need to do all you can to get a lot of proof because your situation sounds like outsiode the normal temporary conditions that these rules describe.
 
britsimon said:
OK so you seem to be saying it was temporary. 4 years is a long time and a father doing business trips would normally leave his family back at home - so in a sense it does not sound temporary to me.

Your birth certificate is useful being a Jordanian one. However, it is a register of your birth and as you say shows birthplace which equals nativity. However, the fact that you have a Jordanian one itself might be used to show the temporary nature of your parents stay.

However, if you want to make that argument, get anything you can that shows contracts that say he was visiting there for a short term, documents that prove they only had temporary housing there (and documents that show they kept their home in Jordan). I can't stress enough that you need to do all you can to get a lot of proof because your situation sounds like outsiode the normal temporary conditions that these rules describe.
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Thanks a lot, Britsimon, I will try collect such information as i know they used to stay in the company's villa, and they Kept their house in Jordan as well, will showing my Brothers and sisters Birth of certificates are all Born in Jordan make a difference as well?
 
samershahin said:
Thanks a lot, Britsimon, I will try collect such information as i know they used to stay in the company's villa, and they Kept their house in Jordan as well, will showing my Brothers and sisters Birth of certificates are all Born in Jordan make a difference as well?
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It might, if you are one of the middle children (as the fact that children both before and after you were born in Jordan would indicate the stay was temporary; if you are oldest or youngest then you might have been born at the end or beginning of a non-temporary stay so that by itself wouldn't prove anything)
 
SusieQQQ said:
It might, if you are one of the middle children (as the fact that children both before and after you were born in Jordan would indicate the stay was temporary; if you are oldest or youngest then you might have been born at the end or beginning of a non-temporary stay so that by itself wouldn't prove anything)
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Does Nigeria Gives residency for any nationality other than ECOWAS states: benin, Liberia,.....Mali,, Togo...Niger etc.. ??
 
samershahin said:
Does Nigeria Gives residency for any nationality other than ECOWAS states: benin, Liberia,.....Mali,, Togo...Niger etc.. ??
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Seriously?? Of course yes! Nationals of ECOWAS countries simply do not need visas to enter or reside in Nigeria, the country however grants residency to non ECOWAS nationals who qualify for the residency permit.
 
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