• Hello Members, This forums is for DV lottery visas only. For other immigration related questions, please go to our forums home page, find the related forum and post it there.

Wrong Country of Birth

halfshin

Registered Users (C)
Hi All, I am a resident of Spain and my husband is Spanish citizen, when I filled the form, I put Spain as country of chargeability and by mistake as country of birth but I was born in Moldova. I got the NL and there is listed Spain as my country of chargeability! Any idea how I could proceed?
 
Luckily both countries are from the same region, and quotas for both are always underfilled. In that case they could change the country of chargeability. However, that does not mean they will do it.
I heard about a case when the country of chargeability was changed as a part of CP process when both countries belonged to the same region, and quotas for both countries were always underfilled.
However, for instance, if you played from Spain instead of Ukraine (versus Moldova), if would be difficult to prove you did not do that on purpose (Ukraine frequently has a special cut off number).
 
Last edited by a moderator:
This story does not have an end.

I saw a similar case when change of chargeability was allowed. And I saw another one when it was not allowed. It is not a big deal for them to order new visa numbers from another country, if both quotas are underfilled. However, they do not have to do that.
 
There is no need to change the country of changeability since a person is entitled to be charged to the country of his/her spouse even if the country in which he or she was born is also eligible.
However, there is a chance that the application might still be rejected for providing inaccurate information when the lottery was filled.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Who told you the spouse was born in Spain? There was nothing said about it here before.
If it is the case, however, there will be not problems at all.
 
You're right. halfshin did say in her first post that her husband is a Spanish citizen. I figured he must have been born in Spain since she did not specifically say that he is a Spanish citizen who was not born in Spain. Anyway I agree that my assumption is unwarranted!

It is conceivable that there might still be a problem even if halfshin's husband is Spanish born. Sure, the changeability issue disappears, but the issue arising from providing inaccurate information when submitting the lottery still remains. Though I don't know whether they will cut some slack or disqualify!
 
First of all thank you all for your responds, ..
My husband is Spanish citizen but was not born here, so looks like we have more problems now! I submitted the applications and attached the explanation of how this has hapenned to KCC.
Now, in case of being denied, would KCC notify us or we should all wait till the interview?
Thanks
 
KCC will not notify you. If they notice the difference, they will mark this disqualifying factor and provide this information to the consulate.
That is up to the consul to disqualify you, if any.
 
but the issue arising from providing inaccurate information when submitting the lottery still remains
Issues like that matter only if they could be used for fraudulent purposes (like submitting multiple entries, for instance).
It looks like you do not benefit by submitting several entries from different countries. Then that will not be a disqualifying factor. However, I do not know if it was ever an issue
 
First of all thank you all for your responds, ..
My husband is Spanish citizen but was not born here, so looks like we have more problems now! I submitted the applications and attached the explanation of how this has hapenned to KCC.
Now, in case of being denied, would KCC notify us or we should all wait till the interview?
Thanks

On your and your husband's applications, is all the other information correct? Countries of birth, children, etc?
 
Isn't there a quota or percentage how many visa a country can get, not just the quota of a region? If it's so, this is something that need to be consider. They drew the lottery based on percentage of each country and each region.

Even though Moldova and Spain are in the same region (EU), Moldova and Spain each have different visa quota. This could be a problem. :(

I hope they still allow you to proceed. Let's all hope for the best. :)
 
Last edited by a moderator:
All other piece of informations are correct and this was juts an honest mistake with no intention and we did not enter the application more than once.

I think the numbe of available VISAs are by region and not the countries in that region however at the end the would provide the statistics by each country.

Thanks
 
All other piece of informations are correct and this was juts an honest mistake with no intention and we did not enter the application more than once.

Just to make sure I understand you correctly, you put country of birth - Moldova and country of chargeability - Spain?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
They drew the lottery based on percentage of each country and each region.

This is not true. The way the lottery is drawn is random (or so they say). The way the cases are processed is based on quotas. That's why we see so many winners from some countries (where there is a lot of attendance; like Ukraine or Nigeria) but so few cases being processed as their numbers are slow to become current. For every 100 visas given out, 7 visas can be given to a country. If there are many winners from a country, people have to wait.

If the lottery was drawn based on quotas, we wouldn't see these waits. Also, there wouldn't be unused visas at the end. In fact, that is why they give out NLs to so many people from Africa (up to 60XXX). So that people from small countries can get selected and processed.

I hope you can get your country of chargeability changed. Honestly, I wouldn't be optimistic.

Good luck.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
"Just to make sure I understand you correctly, you put country of birth - Moldova and country of chargeability - Spain?"

I put SPAIN for both.
 
I am sure that this mistake is fatal, and will cost you the eligibility. In addition such fatal mistake will not be neither tolerated nor corrected by KCC.
Good Luck in future
 
"Just to make sure I understand you correctly, you put country of birth - Moldova and country of chargeability - Spain?"

I put SPAIN for both.

Did you or your parents live in Spain or travel to Spain around the time of your birth?

If not, this will be difficult to explain to KCC or the consular officer - because "country of birth" has a very clear meaning and you knew where you were born.

I mean, what did you put for "city of birth" then? Did you just invent a Spanish town?
 
I am sure that this mistake is fatal, and will cost you the eligibility. In addition such fatal mistake will not be neither tolerated nor corrected by KCC.
Good Luck in future

No reason to rush to judgment - maybe there are additional circumstances. :)
 
Top