That is unfair. What do you think?

[TuneyToons]

I waited 0 day outside and I came on an F-1 student visa. Thanks god i achieved my goals by obtaining the BA and MS from the US universities. By the way, i am grateful and lucky to be here. When i rasied the question, it was not personal but i think alot of poeple in this board took it personally. Instead of discussing the issues, the people attacked and insulted me personally, people need to learn from America not just getting the green card and citizenship. I wish the best luck for all as always!

Peace

They attacked you because you pretended to be an asylee. It may be your poor English, but that's how I read it. You could have raised the argument in a different way. You could have been honest about it in the beginning. I am not saying you are dishonest. I am saying the way you introduced the argument was.

good luck to you.

 

[geetha1]

Well the organization which make our trips and help us get out of the country was only working with the US. Neighboring countires for me which you want me to go?: Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkey (don't jump on me), Iraq, Saudi. Now which one you would like to go to live? We have Turkish people who are coming to the US to live and Iraqies and Afghanies and Pakistanies and Indians and everybody else. What if you go live in Austria because they don't take refugees but alot of Turkish ( No offence) but this is how it is.

So which country did you escape from as an asylee?
how about jordan? isn't it democratic?
but Indians cannot be put alongside afghanis/iraqis/and even pakistanis.
India is a democratic country and the economy is booming now. I doubt there are any asylees from there.
So it all comes down to economics in terms of choosing a country as an asylee?
I don't understand your last sentence. ...but alot of turkish?

 

[geetha1]

The Asylees are eligible to apply for financial aid "federal and state grant" I did not pay out of state fees at all. In the graduate school i was offered scholarship and it helped me alot besides the fulltime job i maintained. Both the BA and MS obtained from the state university "public"

I am not getting what you said.
Are you an asylee?
But then you said you came on F-1 vsa?
can you check your immigration records please?

 

[z350]

This is not our business to decide who's refugee and who's not and why.
Leave it to USCIS.

Someone please lock this thread.

 

[geetha1]

This is not our business to decide who's refugee and who's not and why.
Leave it to USCIS.

Someone please lock this thread.

Hello anyone there?
Asylee claimed he was an asylee then said he came on F-1.
I am just asking him to check his records.
After reading 2 versions, I am thinking may be he came on some other visa that he is not aware of?
Why are you you trying to confuse?

 

[thankful]

I disagree with you. They apply for A VISA NUMBER I-485 " after one year they entered the country. When they enter the US in the first time, they enter with a refugee status "i saw that in their I-94"
when you say a visa number, that means State Deprtament issued the visa number "USCIS does not issued the immigrants visas". For example, an Asylee or a refugee when he/she filed the I-485 and after the approval, the USCIS puts his/her name for visa number availablity from the State Department. At the end, the Refugee goes under the same procedure as the Asylee"both they have to file the same form, do fp, medical check, and etc.."although the refugee had already gone through these steps from outside

Asylees and refugees are related but there are important differences. The adjustment of status process is different for each group. Read the law carefully and you will see that the adjustment for refugees is almost automatic. Asylees face a higher hurdle. First, refugees technically do not apply for adjustment. For this reason refugees do not even pay an application fee when they submit their I-485s. On the other hand for asylees an application is required under the INA and they have to pay application fees. Second, when refugees apply for adjustment they do not have to demonstrate continued fear of pesecution but asylees do. In other words the status of a refugee is in theory more secure than the status of an asylee. Thirdly, prior to 2005 asylees faced a 10K cap per year for adjustment purposes but refugee adjustment has no caps.

Refugees are not admitted to the United States under immigrant visas--you were correct in that part. Refugees are not strictly speaking immigrants at that stage of the process. However the INS does not ask the State Department for visa numbers for refugee or asylees when they adjust status. Even when the asylee cap was in effect the cap was managed by the INS not the State Department.

There is one serious policy justification for treating refugees more generously. They are brought here by the United States Government. So this country has control over the number of refugees who are admitted. But asylees invite themselves in and Congress has always been more wary of them. I am not saying that I personally agree with this view but it is a reasonable view.

 

[thankful]

I am not getting what you said.
Are you an asylee?
But then you said you came on F-1 vsa?
can you check your immigration records please?

Could the person meant that he/she arrived here as a student and then filed for asylum? Most asylum seekers enter first using some kind of nonimmigrant visas or they sneak in.

 

[geetha1]

Jordan? Wasn't he the basketball player?
I wasn't an asylee from the beginning so I don't know what you are talking about.
and I wasn't comparing any countries; I was talking about why you came here? you couldn't for example get a job in your neighboring countries?

When you decide to live in a place, specially moving form a country to another, you will automatically consider a better economy for yourself and you want to make sure it will give you a better opportunity for life, that is how you decided to come to the US and I think also applies in many people’s cases.

LOL. So you didn't wanted to go to jordan because there are not that many jobs there? But if there were good jobs there then you would consider going there? Then that you meant it is the economic opportunities that led you to us?
You haven't said which country you escaped from as an asylee?

Is being an asylee a way to that? Is that what you are saying?
What is an asylee? what is the definition?
Is it same as refugee?
(Give that person an asylum because he/she is a refugee?)

 

[action123]

You will surprise on how many Indians applying for asylum in this country.
Asylum is based on afraid of being prosecuted in their country because of their race, religion or because they are different.

People consider lucky when they were born in this country. At least the government treat you the same in this country.

So which country did you escape from as an asylee?
how about jordan? isn't it democratic?
but Indians cannot be put alongside afghanis/iraqis/and even pakistanis.
India is a democratic country and the economy is booming now. I doubt there are any asylees from there.
So it all comes down to economics in terms of choosing a country as an asylee?
I don't understand your last sentence. ...but alot of turkish?

 

[action123]

Jordan..???
Who want to move to Jordan?? A lot of people from Jordan applied for asylum in here. You are really funny.

LOL. So you didn't wanted to go to jordan because there are not that many jobs there? But if there were good jobs there then you would consider going there? Then that you meant it is the economic opportunities that led you to us?
You haven't said which country you escaped from as an asylee?

Is being an asylee a way to that? Is that what you are saying?
What is an asylee? what is the definition?
Is it same as refugee?
(Give that person an asylum because he/she is a refugee?)

 

[geetha1]

You will surprise on how many Indians applying for asylum in this country.
Asylum is based on afraid of being prosecuted in their country because of their race, religion or because they are different.

People consider lucky when they were born in this country. At least the government treat you the same in this country.

Last time I checked, 0 Indians applied for asylum in US.
I am reading that there are people who are in jordan with asylum status.
Are you saying that the asylee is an economic refugee with an asylee status?

 

[action123]

I have some friends from India that applying for asylum.
I can't tell you why they are applying for asylum, but it is a lot and like I said you will surprise. And you will surprise about the reason why they are applying for asylum in this country, you won't think about why their country can treat people differently because of their race or religion.

Nope asylees is not an economic refugee, but afraid of being prosecuted in their country based on their race, religion or being different. Not so many country have asylee program. One of the country that have asylee program is US, I'm not sure about any other country.

Last time I checked, 0 Indians applied for asylum in US.
I am reading that there are people who are in jordan with asylum status.
Are you saying that the asylee is an economic refugee with an asylee status?

 

[geetha1]

I have some friends from India that applying for asylum.
I can't tell you why they are applying for asylum, but it is a lot and like I said you will surprise. And you will surprise about the reason why they are applying for asylum in this country, you won't think about why their country can treat people differently because of their race or religion.

Nope asylees is not an economic refugee, but afraid of being prosecuted in their country based on their race, religion or being different. Not so many country have asylee program. One of the country that have asylee program is US, I'm not sure about any other country.

Most probably economic refugees. What are the reasons your asylum claiming INDIAN friends are using to apply for asylum?
What race are you talking about?
India is an old land with people of mixed races. Everyone is mixed. So I don't know what so called race based claims you are referring to?
Nimche has not said from which country he is an asylee from?

 

[action123]

Economic??
The US immigration will denied their asylum case and throw them back to their country if just because of an economic problem. You are so naive don't you. If you think there is no Indian applying asylum in this country. Start google about that too. Even Mexican can apply asylum in this country. (I'm not starting promoting asylum here)

Most probably economic refugees. What are the reasons your asylum claiming INDIAN friends are using to apply for asylum?
What race are you talking about?
India is an old land with people of mixed races. Everyone is mixed. So I don't know what so called race based claims you are referring to?
Nimche has not said from which country he is an asylee from?