will USVISIT be implemented on green card holders in the future?

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antonioa77

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Hi,

i was reading about this USVISIT program that will be fully operational by 2006. this program has the role to record the entry and exit of a person from the usa. now it is applied on most non-immigrant visa holders, but from what i understand that this program will be expended to reach any person that is non us citizen. which means in few years this program will be implenmeted on green card holders. is this right? what r your thoughts. it is not clear to me.

regards,
 
antonioa77 said:
Hi,

i was reading about this USVISIT program that will be fully operational by 2006. this program has the role to record the entry and exit of a person from the usa. now it is applied on most non-immigrant visa holders, but from what i understand that this program will be expended to reach any person that is non us citizen. which means in few years this program will be implenmeted on green card holders. is this right? what r your thoughts. it is not clear to me.

regards,
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The objective of USVISIT includes: Enhance the security of U.S. citizens and visitors, Facilitate legitimate travel and trade, Ensure the integrity of the immigration system, Safeguard the personal privacy of visitors

If you are legitimate traveller with no bad intention there should be nothing to worry about. If it is extended to all foreigners, so be it. Safety and Security is more important now than ever before.
 
The statement on DHS web site very clearly says that USVISIT is used to catch 3 types of trouble makering foreigners:

- Terrorists
- Illegals
- Criminals

If you are not one of those three, you have nothing to worry. It may take a few additional minutes when traveling, but those minutes gives us the peace of mind knowing that trouble makers will be targeted by USVISIT.

There should be no privacy concerns, the privacy statement is very clear...
http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/assetlibrary/USVISITPrivacyPolicy.pdf

Live happy.


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Why are the exit/entry of citizens not recorded? It is because
they are considered less threatening or because they
have a right not to be recorded?
 
AmericanWannabe said:
Why are the exit/entry of citizens not recorded? It is because
they are considered less threatening or because they
have a right not to be recorded?
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VOTES.
 
AmericanWannabe said:
Why are the exit/entry of citizens not recorded? It is because
they are considered less threatening or because they
have a right not to be recorded?
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A nation's welfare is tied closely with its citizen. Cannot deport a citizen. With exception to a very very small number of rotten apples, most US citizens love this country.



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unitednations said:
http://boards.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=125146&page=3&pp=15

See post #43 onwards. it is the most informative source on port of entry procedures and what information officers have and how they get it.
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UN.. Are you into Advertising? You seem to advertising your own post.

Before you copy and paste articles from another web site, please read their copyright information. On the ilw.com web site, it clearly says "Copyright © 1999-2002 American Immigration LLC, ILW.COM". By posting that article on this board you have made yourself and immigration.com liable to copyright infringment. Pls respect the law.


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unitednations said:
Thanks for the advice. I actually copied the link. I haven't seen the exact copyright policies for that sight. However, most sights are o.k. as long as you post the link. BTW, murthy also does this. In fact if you try to copy and paste the copyright symbol shows up.

With regards to advertising. I tried to find the link on ILW but at first pass I didn't find it and took the lazy way out as I know I pasted it on that forum. Also, if you read that thread, you'll see that I got the better of JoeF on this topic. :)
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You got better than JoeF on this topic? Whats so great about it? Thats like saying you ran faster than an ant. Just my opinion...


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JoeF said:
You know, if you want to get rid of the political propaganda and mudslinging, it would help if you (and everybody else) would not answer these guys anymore and would put them in their ignore list.
People can not encourage these guys and at the same time calling on me to stop defending myself...
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JoeF. Loosen up. It is a funny statement. Laugh and get done with it. The rate at which you get rattled at the smallest thing, you better get your BP checked out. Live happy.


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When are they planning to implement the tracking for entry/exit of Green Card holders? Can anybody provide any link? Thanks.
 
cgiz said:
When are they planning to implement the tracking for entry/exit of Green Card holders? Can anybody provide any link? Thanks.
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Sorry. To the best of my knowledge... no one on this board words for DHS. Please send that question to DHS, they might know the answer.

Could you tell us why you are so interested in finding about USVISIT as applicable to GC holders? It is nothing but a 3 minute delay in a trip that could take any where between 3 hours and 12 hours.


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cgiz said:
When are they planning to implement the tracking for entry/exit of Green Card holders? Can anybody provide any link? Thanks.
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They aren't. This clip is from a USCIS press release which came via the fragomen.com Web site:

US-VISIT procedures are currently required of nonimmigrant visa holders; travelers under the Visa Waiver Program (VWP) will be subject to US-VISIT on September 30, 2004. This will be discussed further below.

The interim rule adds Taiwan representatives of the Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office (TECRO), and their dependents, to those who are exempt from US-VISIT. Along with this group, the following individuals are exempt from US-VISIT: (1) children under the age of 14; (2) individuals over the age of 79; (3) foreign nationals in most A, C, G or NATO nonimmigrant visa categories; (4) individuals or groups of foreign nationals who have been exempted by the Secretary of Homeland Security, the Secretary of State or the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency; (5) foreign nationals who are registered in the National Security Entry-Exit Registration System (NSEERS), except those who have received waivers of certain aspects of NSEERS; and (6) foreign nationals who are registered in INSPASS, the Department of Homeland Security's advance registration system for foreign nationals who are frequent business visitors to the United States. Also exempt from the system are U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents of the United States.
 
Tracking foreigners not only makes sense, it also is the correct thing to do. It is important to remember that even GC holders are actually foreigners and citizens of another country. Just like how we would like to know when a visitor comes into our home, it is essential to know when a foreigner comes into this the United States.

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Patriotism is easy to understand in America - it means looking out for yourself by looking out for your country. ~Calvin Coolidge
 
JoeF said:
The tracking of PRs, separate from the US-VISIT system, is coming as well, though.
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Could you point me to a link or source for this information?

thx wik
 
wik said:
Could you point me to a link or source for this information?

thx wik
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wik. Are you new to this board? Dont you know that you should not ask JoeF to provide proof for his assertions? He fabricates his advices, or pulls it out of the place where sun dont shine. Just ignore JoeF's comments because he is full of hearsay, gossip, scare tactics and non-truths.


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JoeF said:
The immigration law, online on the USCIS website.
And all laws from quite a lot of years back are online at the Library of Congress website dedicated to that: thomas.loc.gov
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JoeF. You made this statement in a post in this thread..... "The tracking of PRs, separate from the US-VISIT system, is coming as well, though."

wik is asking you to prove that statement. I am saying you cannot prove it, because you make up far too many things. Your assertions do not have factual basis.

I am sure you googled on this topic after wik and I questioned your assertion. Since you were not able to print any authetic source for that information, your assertion is discredited. I am surprised you were not able to find some whacky, out-in-the-fringes, far-left leaning, human rights pendling oraganization making the same statement you did. Search harder this time around.

Live happy.


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JoeF said:
The immigration law, online on the USCIS website.
And all laws from quite a lot of years back are online at the Library of Congress website dedicated to that: thomas.loc.gov
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There is nothing about LPRs being monitored in either of these sources, primarily because these sources show LAWS and the information you put forward is not LAW - it is about 'pending action' or propsals by Congress or some other body (DHS, for example). Therefore, is there a newspaper article, or other investigative source where your assertions are shown? I am interested to know what is really being proposed for LPRs.

thx wik
 
JoeF said:
In fact, it is part of the law. Congress mandated by law that these entry/exit controls are implemented by a certain date, and required the Attorney General to report on the progress. I have come across that in the immigration law, but I don't have the time to search for it right now.
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JoeF. We are not interested in your stories. You lied about this the first time, and now you are adding more lies to hide your first lie. It takes a great person to accept his mistake. It just takes an idiot to keep telling lies to hide other lies. You make the choice.... do you want to be calling a great person or idiot?


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JoeF is not an idiot !

I don't think JoeF is an idiot, but what's my opinion compared to that of several others?
 
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