Will these steps help to get US Visitor visa ?

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dhirendra_sh

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Hi,

My mother's visitor visa was rejected four times at US Consulate, New Delhi under Section 214 (b).

Last attempt was made in Sept/2003. She lives alone and wants to come here for a visit (absolutley no intention of overstaying).

We are two brothers.Both of us are here in US. I am a LPR and my brother has EAD.

Before attempting next time, I am planning to get the following done :

1). Get my mother's last three years income tax returns.

2). Take her on a Europe tour using services of bigger travel companies

3). Get property evaluation done by government authorized property evaluators

4). Get a Net Assert / Yearly income sheet prepared and signed by Income Tax lawyer which shows the following on a single sheet .

  • a). Immovable Assets (Based on govt. authorized property evaluation)


  • b). Bank deposit Amount summay (Bank statement, Fixed Deposit etc.)


  • c). Annual income (Interest income, rental income and pension)

Do you guys think, above steps will help her in getting visitor visa ?
Europe tour is very costly.But my personal thinking is , it might help.


Thanks
 
When mentioning the time she wants to be in the US (form DS156), try mentioning like one month or two months; this way your mom would get visa only for a few months and she can prove her intent not to settle in the US by visiting you guys for few weeks/months.

Good luck
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dhirendra_sh said:
Hi,

My mother's visitor visa was rejected four times at US Consulate, New Delhi under Section 214 (b).

Last attempt was made in Sept/2003. She lives alone and wants to come here for a visit (absolutley no intention of overstaying).

We are two brothers.Both of us are here in US. I am a LPR and my brother has EAD.

Before attempting next time, I am planning to get the following done :

1). Get my mother's last three years income tax returns.

2). Take her on a Europe tour using services of bigger travel companies

3). Get property evaluation done by government authorized property evaluators

4). Get a Net Assert / Yearly income sheet prepared and signed by Income Tax lawyer which shows the following on a single sheet .

  • a). Immovable Assets (Based on govt. authorized property evaluation)


  • b). Bank deposit Amount summay (Bank statement, Fixed Deposit etc.)


  • c). Annual income (Interest income, rental income and pension)

Do you guys think, above steps will help her in getting visitor visa ?
Europe tour is very costly.But my personal thinking is , it might help.


Thanks
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The tour and travel's company that i talked to have 10 day US tour package as well. After Europe tour , should we take that package ?
 
Sounds good to me (the evidence mentioned in the first post). She should also provide evidence of her ties to her family and community in India (list her siblings and children and grandchildren, if any are in India, with pictures of her and them). When applying and they ask what makes this time different, she can say she didn't provide all this evidence on previous tries.

But what is the 10 day US package for? You mean she should ask for a visa for the purpose of going on a 10 day tour, rather than visiting you? I don't think she should bother with that. The interviewer will know her grown children are in the US, and will expect her to visit you, regardless of whether she tells them something else.
 
The tour and travel company told me that they can issue a letter for US tourist visa interview stating that this customer is a genuine tourist based on previous Europe and Thailand tours.
 
dhirendra_sh said:
The tour and travel company told me that they can issue a letter for US tourist visa interview stating that this customer is a genuine tourist based on previous Europe and Thailand tours.
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No need to get that company involved, a letter from them won't be trusted. They know it's a travel company trying to get their customer approved. Just bring proof that she legally traveled to those places ... visas, passport stamps, boarding passes.
 
I see your point.

More than 10 years back, I used to work for a very big Indian software consulting company.One of my colleagues' B1 visa was rejected and our VP talked to US consulate and he was issued B1 visa in the next appointment (he was given a date and time by US consulate for second attempt).


So, i thought very big travel company's letter might help !
 
dhirendra_sh said:
I see your point.

More than 10 years back, I used to work for a very big Indian software consulting company.One of my colleagues' B1 visa was rejected and our VP talked to US consulate and he was issued B1 visa in the next appointment (he was given a date and time by US consulate for second attempt).


So, i thought very big travel company's letter might help !
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Employers are a different matter. If the purpose of the trip is business-related on behalf of the employer, and/or there is a need to prove ties to the home country including employment, then yes the employer testimony would be important.

But a travel agency paid by the applicant who doesn't see the applicant on a frequent basis over a long period of time? Nah. Just stick to the more provable facts ... she obtained visas to countries X, Y, and Z and visited them and came back, here are the visas and passport stamps and boarding passes to prove it.
 
This is what I am thinking about the Europe and US Tour :

Europe Tour Options :
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Option 1:
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a). My mother and I take purchase a 9-12 days Europe tour package from reputed tour and travel company. First I get the respective visas ( UK and Schenengan) stamped on my passport here in US giving the tour package details as Italy / UK ask for specific tour plan details.

b). then i send clean notarized copy of all my documents including complete copy of passport, US Green card , Last 3 years income tax, last 6 months payslips, vacation letter from employer etc. to tour and travel company in India

c). then along with my documents, the travel agent in India submits all of my mother's documents (Last 3 years tax returns/ Immovable Assets / Bank deposit Amount summay / Annual income ) for visa stamping for UK / Switzerland / Schenegan


d). My mother and i go on Europe tour


e). Estimated cost for both of us approx Indian Rs.300,000/= (3 lacs)

Option 2:
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Same as above but i include my wife and son . Estimated cost goes upto Indian Rs.500,000/= (5 lacs)




US Tour Options:
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Option 1:
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a). Purchase a 10 day US Tour package from tour and travel company and submit only my mother's documents (Last 3 years tax returns/ Immovable Assets / Bank deposit Amount summay / Annual income )

b). Tour and travel company is willing to issue a special letter for US visa interview stating that this customer is genuine tourist based on previous Europe / Thailand tours)

Option 2:
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a). Don't purchase 10 day US Tour package from tours and travel company

b). I send a invitation letter to my mother for US Tourist visa and my mother submits all the documents (Last 3 years tax returns/ Immovable Assets / Bank deposit Amount summay / Annual income )



Let me know, what you think
 
Where did you get the idea about the invitation letter for the US visa? I know many European countries require it, but my relatives don't do that when they get their B1/B2 to visit the US. If your mother has her own spending money (and proof) she shouldn't need that letter ... unless that's how the US embassy in India operates.
 
Previous four occasions, i had sent I-134. But the biggest mistake that we did was , we did NOT present any of her own documents.
 
dhirendra_sh said:
Previous four occasions, i had sent I-134. But the biggest mistake that we did was , we did NOT present any of her own documents.
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If she has enough money of her own, next time I would avoid sending the I-134. Let her stand on her own merit if possible, without it looking like she is too dependent on you.
 
One way is to purchase the 10 day US tour package and let tour and travel company submit all the documents to US embassy.

My mother can tell at the interview that my son will come to meet me as per tour/travel itinery
 
You don't get it. You getting too involved may hurt things more than help, because you being here is a reason for her to overstay.

She can mention visiting you if asked at the interview, but that should not be the basis of the application. The more she can stand on her own merit, showing that she has the finances to pay for her trip (including her own spending money) and the ties to make her return (real estate in India, etc.) the better off she'll be.

In other words, have her portray the image of strength "I am a tourist with a good amount of money and strong ties to my home country. I have traveled to Europe and back. Please let me visit the US because I am qualified to do so." ... not "I really want to visit my son and he will help me out with my trip."
 
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Thats exactly what i am saying.

She can purchase the US Tour plan on her own without my affidavit of support (I-134) ..

But they will definitely ask her the question - Will you stay with your son ?

Then she can tell them - NO-- I will follow the tour itinery and my son will come and meet me...
 
Isn't all of this fraud? Lying does not help at all. If she is genuinely going on a tour and not using it to visit you - then it is OK but otherwise it might simply hurt her even more. Someone who has been rejected 4 times has a real problem and the case will be scrutinized more closely. In any case there is a question that relates to having relatives in the US and if you do anything fishy it will simply raise more red flags.
 
Most important thing is the fact that my mother has absolutely no intention of overstaying or doing anything illegal.She has good amount of property in India and the price of our property has risen drastically in last 3 years.
 
So she should apply for a US visa on her own, mention you on her DS-156 and see what happens. I wish her good luck!!!

dhirendra_sh said:
Most important thing is the fact that my mother has absolutely no intention of overstaying or doing anything illegal.She has good amount of property in India and the price of our property has risen drastically in last 3 years.
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