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labordrags

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Getting Citizenship Sooner than later...

I would like to get the opinion of all members thru this forum that since many of us have early Priority Date and due to Backlog Center mess, many of us being victimized by this ruthless process of just waiting for the time to arrive so we can apply for green card. Doing so, many of us lost valuable time and money and effort to correct the situation - we all know that.

Now, you have to be in GC status for the next 4 and 9 months to apply for the citizenship. Green Card process starts when you initially apply for the Labor, which establishes your Priority Date. These days due to PERM, people are getting their labor in less amount of time, and are being eligible to apply for the Green Card. Have we all lucked or saw the PERM in our early stages, we all should be (most of backlog victims) applying for the Citizenship.

Please consider this tracker as a brainstorming one in how we can run our effort to amend the law so that USCIS will honor our PD date as a GC received date so we all can benefit from this to apply for citizenship in less time rather than waiting for long time. I think we should all (who wants to participate on this) make an effort to lobby our ideas to make it success.

What you say folks? Ideas welcome, no nonsense please.
 
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I am with you

I am with you as always, after 5.5 yrs in labor now I am stuck in namecheck.
What are your suggestions? this might need a legislative change, I don't think uscis can by itself change its policy.
 
Days_go_by said:
I am with you as always, after 5.5 yrs in labor now I am stuck in namecheck.
What are your suggestions? this might need a legislative change, I don't think uscis can by itself change its policy.
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Thank you so much. TO be honest with you, I am so new to this and trying to crawl. I need some expert advise from people. I think congress can do it, since the democrat are in majority and the election time is nearer, I think this is the right time to hit the nail.

Did you try any effort to clear your namecheck issue?
 
I loved that idea man. but not sure it is that simple.It certainly involves a big change and ofcourse we are talking of more than a million votes. I can see antis ready to tear your idea.

I am with you.
 
Thanks

desi2007 said:
I loved that idea man. but not sure it is that simple.It certainly involves a big change and ofcourse we are talking of more than a million votes. I can see antis ready to tear your idea.

I am with you.
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Thanks man, see there are anties everywhere. Lets not stop now thinking that anties are watching. Let them watch it. Besides what will happen after 5 years is going to happen in 5 months. Look at what democrats need at this time or republican? VOTE, VOTE, and VOTE. It will be a good benefit for each parties running for the election. Why would they oppose the idea which could benefit either of them?
 
While we are at it can we also research who/how to be a millionaire in less time? I would take that over the citizenship.
 
Dude, you have some serious issue, you need therapy

KMax said:
While we are at it can we also research who/how to be a millionaire in less time? I would take that over the citizenship.
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You should try other thread if any which will make you millionaire in less amount of time. Dude, you are in wrong thread, and thats why being a millionaire is not coming handy to you. It also seems like what you do is not by thinking but just scratching what makes you more comfortable. If you don't like it, then you are welcome to leave it, but please don't throw dirt on the thread which you cannot wash later on.
 
Well, sorry about that. I saw such intelligent people trying to do the impossible that I thought that I would get some sage advise also w.r.t. my isssue.

labordrags said:
You should try other thread if any which will make you millionaire in less amount of time. Dude, you are in wrong thread, and thats why being a millionaire is not coming handy to you. It also seems like what you do is not by thinking but just scratching what makes you more comfortable. If you don't like it, then you are welcome to leave it, but please don't throw dirt on the thread which you cannot wash later on.
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KMax said:
Well, sorry about that. I saw such intelligent people trying to do the impossible that I thought that I would get some sage advise also w.r.t. my isssue.
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Also remember one thing that intelligent people are the one who can make things happen. Since I am not that intelligent, I opened up this thread to get some constructive brain work to get the pile out. Comments like your make other feel bad so refrain your comment from next time or you can simply ignore the thread if you don't like to open up.
 
labordrags,

This is a great idea. I was stuck in labor certification for over 4 years. This is the kind of thinking we need. A lot of us are worried about getting GC. (Rightly so. ) Getting a GC will still give us partial freedom only. We will be tethered to live in US 6 months out of a year for the next five years. You can't take a great assignment overseas for the fear of losing PR.

I think we should talk about how we can get the wait time for citizenship reduced or make GC PD the starting point of wait. Who has ideas?

BTW, were you at any time associated with immigrationvoice.org. From BEC message boards, I vaguely remember you being associated with them.

labordrags said:
I would like to get the opinion of all members thru this forum that since many of us have early Priority Date and due to Backlog Center mess, many of us being victimized by this ruthless process of just waiting for the time to arrive so we can apply for green card. Doing so, many of us lost valuable time and money and effort to correct the situation - we all know that.

Now, you have to in GC status for the next 4 and 9 months to apply for the citizenship. Green Card process starts when you initially apply for the Labor, which establishes your Priority Date. These days due to PERM, people are getting their labor in less amount of time, and are being eligible to apply for the Green Card. Have we all lucked or saw the PERM in our early stages, we all should be (most of backlog victims) applying for the Citizenship.

Please consider this tracker as a brainstromming one in how we can run our effort to ammend the law so that USCIS will honor our PD date as a GC received date so we all can benefit from this to apply for citizenship in less time rather than waiting for long time. I think we should all (who wants to participate on this) make an effort to lobby our ideas to make it success.

What you say folks?
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2002calabor said:
labordrags,

This is a great idea. I was stuck in labor certification for over 4 years. This is the kind of thinking we need. A lot of us are worried about getting GC. (Rightly so. ) Getting a GC will still give us partial freedom only. We will be tethered to live in US 6 months out of a year for the next five years. You can't take a great assignment overseas for the fear of losing PR.

I think we should talk about how we can get the wait time for citizenship reduced or make GC PD the starting point of wait. Who has ideas?

BTW, were you at any time associated with immigrationvoice.org. From BEC message boards, I vaguely remember you being associated with them.
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Thank you calabor. I remember you from last time and so do days_go_by and desi2007. I am not associated with any organization. This is just an idea of if this can be done. If this can be done with any sort of effort, I would actively take to take any part that will help thousands of people. We are focusing on Citizenship issue now, and I think they are focused on GreenCard.
 
USATODAY ARTICLE

Congress rightly considers plight of ice dancer

Tanith Belbin is the kind of athlete many Americans would want to have represent them overseas. She's gracious and well-spoken. She has raised money for the less fortunate. She's one of the least likely people on earth to cause an international incident. And she wins a lot.
She is everything the United States would want in an Olympic athlete, except for one very essential detail. She is not ours.

Tanith Belbin is a Canadian, even though she left Canada and moved to the United States in 1998, when she was 14.

She also is an ice dancer, and a very good one. She and her partner Ben Agosto are the best ice dance team the United States has fielded in 30 years, and if they were given a chance to represent the country at the Winter Olympics, they'd likely win a medal.

In fact, at the moment, with Michelle Kwan and Sasha Cohen fighting injuries, Belbin and Agosto are the best U.S. hope in any of the four figure skating disciplines to win a medal at the Olympics.

Of course, that would require them to actually be at the Olympics representing the United States. And therein lies the problem. As things stand now, Belbin would become a U.S. citizen in 2007, five years after getting her green card, but too late for the Winter Olympics.

If you're wondering if there isn't something someone can do about this, if you're thinking that we as a nation have imported a lot worse over the years than a kind, generous athlete who wins boatloads of medals, you're not alone.

Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., thinks so too. He authored an amendment that was adopted by the Senate last week that would allow Belbin and, his office says, as many as 100 other "aliens of extraordinary ability in the sciences, arts, education, business or athletics" to speed up their citizenship — something a new rule now allows — and correct "an absurdity in the law," as Levin put it in a news release.

Today, due to a rule change in 2002, those with "extraordinary ability" can apply for their visas and green cards at the same time. But when Belbin and many others started the process before the rule change, she had to wait 18 months after getting her visa before receiving her green card.

Had Belbin been working under the new system, she likely would have become a U.S. citizen this month, in plenty of time to make the 2006 Olympics.

Now, with Levin's help, the process that lies ahead for Belbin, who trains in Detroit, is basic civics. For the amendment to become law, House and Senate conferees will have to keep it attached to an appropriations bill, the House and the Senate will need to approve the bill, then the president must sign it.

If that occurs, Belbin, 21, and Agosto, 23, will go to the Olympics, provided they qualify at the U.S. nationals in January and there are no bureaucratic glitches.

"I'm a little more hopeful," Belbin said over the phone Wednesday. "It would be impossible not to be hopeful. It would be a dream come true."

As it is, she and Agosto, who was born in Chicago, already have missed one Olympics. They qualified for the 2002 Salt Lake City Games, but of course could not go. Since then, they have steadily risen through the ranks, winning the last two U.S. national titles and a stunning silver medal at the 2005 world championships. (While athletes must be citizens of the country they represent to go to the Olympics, that's not the case at the U.S. nationals or the world championships.)

Theirs isn't just a story of success; it's a lesson in loyalty. Through it all, as the questions about the 2006 Olympics have intensified, Belbin never has complained, and Agosto, the son of a Vietnam veteran, never for a second has considered leaving her for another partner, or leaving his country to try to join hers.

As their profile rose, they threw themselves into organizing a skating benefit for tsunami victims this year that raised $40,000, all the while saying they would not worry about what they could not control. If necessary, they would simply look ahead to the 2010 Olympics, when they still would be in their 20s.

"There are emergency situations," Belbin said several times, "and I am not an emergency situation."

Their results only got better, and in the process, they began helping this country's skating fortunes. Due to their stellar performance at the 2005 worlds, the United States is allowed to send three ice dancing teams to the Olympics for the first time since 1984.

It would be fitting if they are one of them.
 
I want to be a millionaire too.

Everyone reading this thread, please send me $10, which I will use to expedite your citizenship process.

or maybe I will retire in Tahiti using that money.
 
Your idea is Disrespectful to this topic

airberd said:
I want to be a millionaire too.

Everyone reading this thread, please send me $10, which I will use to expedite your citizenship process.

or maybe I will retire in Tahiti using that money.
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I feel that your idea of being a millionaire SOMEHOW doesn't fit this particular discussion. If you are so focused on being one, I would suggest you to look for another thread or even open one here. That might help you if you could generate a penny from your action. Good luck.
 
labordrags,

I think you have started a very good thread. Please ignore nonsense posts.
Although, here are my thoughts. In order to discuss this issue we all need to understand what actually goes into becoming a citizen. All we know is that after 5 years of GC you can become a citizen. Let's answer the following questions first:
1. What are the requirements?
2. How many days out of 5 years one needs to be in US?
3. Is there a requirement to be in US for at least 6 months every year or can you leave after you have completed 3 years of stay and come back and apply for citiizenship after 2 years.
4. What forms does one need to fill up?
5. What are the current challenges? How long does it take? From my friends I hear that it takes 6 months. What takes so long?

If we know the process we may not be able to change anything but we can plan our future much better. I think my GC process got screwed for most part due to inefficiency of the process but lack of information of the process also played a part. I don't want to go thru same thing for citizenship.

labordrags said:
I feel that your idea of being a millionaire SOMEHOW doesn't fit this particular discussion. If you are so focused on being one, I would suggest you to look for another thread or even open one here. That might help you if you could generate a penny from your action. Good luck.
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Info from WIKI

2002calabor said:
labordrags,

I think you have started a very good thread. Please ignore nonsense posts.
Although, here are my thoughts. In order to discuss this issue we all need to understand what actually goes into becoming a citizen. All we know is that after 5 years of GC you can become a citizen. Let's answer the following questions first:
1. What are the requirements?
2. How many days out of 5 years one needs to be in US?
3. Is there a requirement to be in US for at least 6 months every year or can you leave after you have completed 3 years of stay and come back and apply for citiizenship after 2 years.
4. What forms does one need to fill up?
5. What are the current challenges? How long does it take? From my friends I hear that it takes 6 months. What takes so long?

If we know the process we may not be able to change anything but we can plan our future much better. I think my GC process got screwed for most part due to inefficiency of the process but lack of information of the process also played a part. I don't want to go thru same thing for citizenship.
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This is what I have seen from WIKI, which outlines most of the stuff that you are asking about.

About why it takes so long, could be NC issue and the number of applicants.

Eligibility for naturalization

To become a naturalized United States citizen, one must be at least eighteen years of age at the time of filing, a legal permanent resident of the United States, and have had a status of a legal permanent resident in the United States for five years less 90 days before they apply (this requirement is reduced to three years less 90 days if they (a) acquired legal permanent resident status (b) have been married to and living with a citizen for the past three years and (c) the spouse has been a US citizen for at least three years prior to the appicant applying for naturalization.) They must have been physically present for at least 30 months of 60 months prior to the date of filing their application. Also during those 60 months if the legal permanent resident was outside of the U.S. for a continuous period of 6 months or more they are disqualified from naturalizing (certain exceptions apply for those continuous periods of six months to 1 year). They must be a "person of good moral character", and must pass a test on United States history and government.[2][3] Most applicants must also have a working knowledge of the English language.[2] There are exceptions, introduced in 1990, for long-resident older applicants and those with mental or physical disabilities.[4][5]). This requirement for an ability to read, write, and speak English is not an onerous one, since the test requires that applicants read and write simple sentences in English, such as "The United States is a democracy".
 
Great idea - it won't happen though.


labordrags said:
..Please consider this tracker as a brainstorming one in how we can run our effort to amend the law so that USCIS will honor our PD date as a GC received date so we all can benefit from this to apply for citizenship in less time rather than waiting for long time. I think we should all (who wants to participate on this) make an effort to lobby our ideas to make it success.

What you say folks? Ideas welcome, no nonsense please.
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I think we should definitely try. The waiting period for green card is taking ages. We could argue that they should at least consider the time spent in the waiting process towards the citizenship waiting period.
 
Canada , I think ( not sure though) has something similar to carrying over a few months every year of stay on work permit that counts towards your citizenship. If only we can count 6 months for every year of our stay here as an H1- B towards our citizenship, our wait will be drastically reduced. My PD is 2001 (and still waiting for my GC). This would be great but I agree with rollingstone, probably won't happen.
 
We could get the immigrationvoice folks to give it a shot. The democrats will probably go for it as they know most immigrants vote for them.
 
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