What Happens if asylum denied by Judge !!!!

[atique rahman]

I know a friend of mine who's asylum petion was denied by an immigration Judge few years back. As he told me later on that he appealed & this morning when he called me saying he just received a FP notice. I kind of wondered is he telling me the truth???????? I know he lies a lot so just bringing this issue to fellow brothers & sisters for your input.
How this procedure really works when one get denied by the IJ ? I know one can appeal if case got denied but what's the next stage???? Do any of you have any knowledge if someone's case got denied can that person renew his/her work permit or simply looses that eligibility due to case deniel by IJ ??? Just curious !!!
Atique.

 

[jubilee]

I know a friend of mine who's asylum petion was denied by an immigration Judge few years back. As he told me later on that he appealed & this morning when he called me saying he just received a FP notice. I kind of wondered is he telling me the truth???????? I know he lies a lot so just bringing this issue to fellow brothers & sisters for your input.
How this procedure really works when one get denied by the IJ ? I know one can appeal if case got denied but what's the next stage???? Do any of you have any knowledge if someone's case got denied can that person renew his/her work permit or simply looses that eligibility due to case deniel by IJ ??? Just curious !!!
Atique.

I think ..I'm not sure here ..they give him temporary stay 2 or 3 years until he found another place to go.

 

[cadel]

It's very sad.Very bad news anyone should avoid.They give you a deadline to leave US.If you stay,you will be illegal.At this stage,no more GC for you even if you get married to a US citizen.In some states,they pick you up from your house,jail you and then ship you out to your COP.If you have a good lawyer,they may release you.Again,it's a very dangerous situation.No game.

RD Aug 22,2001
Approved Sep 15,2005
GC received Sep 20,2005

 

[wantmygcnow]

It's very sad.Very bad news anyone should avoid.They give you a deadline to leave US.If you stay,you will be illegal.At this stage,no more GC for you even if you get married to a US citizen.In some states,they pick you up from your house,jail you and then ship you out to your COP.If you have a good lawyer,they may release you.Again,it's a very dangerous situation.No game.

RD Aug 22,2001
Approved Sep 15,2005
GC received Sep 20,2005

Are you kidding me? If someone marries a U.S Citizen, he can adjust right then..even if he/she is illegal..look itup.

 

[thankful]

Not so Simple

Are you kidding me? If someone marries a U.S Citizen, he can adjust right then..even if he/she is illegal..look itup.

Actually when someone is in deportation proceeding sthere in an automatic presumption that the marriage is fraudulent. You have your work cut out for you to overcome that presumption. And if there is already a final deportation order against you and you just ignored it, the file is even more complicated.

 

[thankful]

I know a friend of mine who's asylum petion was denied by an immigration Judge few years back. As he told me later on that he appealed & this morning when he called me saying he just received a FP notice. I kind of wondered is he telling me the truth???????? I know he lies a lot so just bringing this issue to fellow brothers & sisters for your input.
How this procedure really works when one get denied by the IJ ? I know one can appeal if case got denied but what's the next stage???? Do any of you have any knowledge if someone's case got denied can that person renew his/her work permit or simply looses that eligibility due to case deniel by IJ ??? Just curious !!!
Atique.

He can call the EOIR 800 number and by inputting his alien file number find out if there is a final order of deportation against him.

 

[cadel]

Are you kidding me? If someone marries a U.S Citizen, he can adjust right then..even if he/she is illegal..look itup.

Serious,Want they can't give no papers even if you get married to US citizen since you got deportation order from the judge after asylum denial.
A friend of mine had asylum denied+deportation order from the judge.He didn't leave US.After 2 years he got married to US citizen.Filled out I-30.I-30 approved.Later,filled out I-485 and I-765.He got Work authorization.Received an appointment letter from uscis for interview.Gone to uscis room for interview and had been arrested,jailed and after months,deported.Boss, when you're applying for asylum,keep in mind this is not a game.It may go well or turn bad.

RD Aug 22,2001
Approved Sep 15,2005
GC received Sep 20,2005

 

[thankful]

This happens all the time.

People with final deportation orders show up for what think are happy green card interviews and only taken away to jail.

Sad but the reality.

Serious,Want they can't give no papers even if you get married to US citizen since you got deportation order from the judge after asylum denial.
A friend of mine had asylum denied+deportation order from the judge.He didn't leave US.After 2 years he got married to US citizen.Filled out I-30.I-30 approved.Later,filled out I-485 and I-765.He got Work authorization.Received an appointment letter from uscis for interview.Gone to uscis room for interview and had been arrested,jailed and after months,deported.Boss, when you're applying for asylum,keep in mind this is not a game.It may go well or turn bad.

RD Aug 22,2001
Approved Sep 15,2005
GC received Sep 20,2005

 

[wantmygcnow]

Serious,Want they can't give no papers even if you get married to US citizen since you got deportation order from the judge after asylum denial.
A friend of mine had asylum denied+deportation order from the judge.He didn't leave US.After 2 years he got married to US citizen.Filled out I-30.I-30 approved.Later,filled out I-485 and I-765.He got Work authorization.Received an appointment letter from uscis for interview.Gone to uscis room for interview and had been arrested,jailed and after months,deported.Boss, when you're applying for asylum,keep in mind this is not a game.It may go well or turn bad.

RD Aug 22,2001
Approved Sep 15,2005
GC received Sep 20,2005

But i think there is a waiver..isn't it? If a USC married an illegal..you are telling me, USC has no rights for his illegal spouse?

 

[thankful]

But i think there is a waiver..isn't it? If a USC married an illegal..you are telling me, USC has no rights for his illegal spouse?

It is possible to overcome this. However the standard is very high and do not count on it. Countless spouses of citizens are denied for prior violations of the immigration act. Congress has make the policy judgment that being married to a citizen does not by itself trump these.

Basically some of us on this chat board live in such a coccon that we do not know how fortunate we are.

 

[cadel]

But i think there is a waiver..isn't it? If a USC married an illegal..you are telling me, USC has no rights for his illegal spouse?

There are two different issues.Being illegal and holding a deportation order.

This is how he it works:

You're illegal with no deportation order,you get married to a USC than you get documents without any problem.This is the way to documents for most of illegals.But make sure you entered US legally(Visa,I-94...)

You're holding a deportation order from the judge,there are three situations:
1- You didn't appeal and you get married to a USC,you don't get document.
2- you appeal and your claim is denied than you get married to a USC,you don't get document.
3- you appeal and get married to a USC while waiting for final decision,you supose not to be illegal at the time and lawyer may fight for this and you can get document.But it's gonna take longer to get your GC.

Situations 1 and 2 may lead to arrest and deportation.

RD Aug 22,2001
Approved Sep 15,2005
GC received Sep 20,2005

 

[jubilee]

There are two different issues.Being illegal and holding a deportation order.
This is how he it works:
You're illegal with no deportation order,you get married to a USC than you get documents without any problem.This is the way to documents for most of illegals.But make sure you entered US legally(Visa,I-94...)

You're holding a deportation order from the judge,there are three situations:
1- You didn't appeal and you get married to a USC,you don't get document.
2- you appeal and your claim is denied than you get married to a USC,you don't get document.
3- you appeal and get married to a USC while waiting for final decision,you supose not to be illegal at the time and lawyer may fight for this and you can get document.But it's gonna take longer to get your GC.
Situations 1 and 2 may lead to arrest and deportation.

good job cadel.
but do you know how long time to be giving before deportation?
did the guy subject of final asylum denial can apply for travel document?
did he still admissible in the port of entry?
in france if your asylum was denied they put you in jail the same day..next day you find yourself in your home country.

 

[cadel]

good job cadel.
but do you know how long time to be giving before deportation?
did the guy subject of final asylum denial can apply for travel document?
did he still admissible in the port of entry?
in france if your asylum was denied they put you in jail the same day..next day you find yourself in your home country.

Well,deportation order comes in two different forms:

1- They send you a letter stating that you must be shown up to uscis office under your juridiction with specific number of pounds of stuff you are allowed to take to your C.O.P.A letter also says that uscis will purchase a flight ticket to help you go back to your C.O.P
2- They send a letter stating that you no longer allowed to stay in US.You must leave the country and feel free to go anywhere.

Deadline :No more than 45 days on Form 1
Form 2 has no deadline.But they ask you to leave immediately.

RD Aug 22,2001
Approved Sep 15,2005
GC received Sep 20,2005