What about EB3 Approvals in September?

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As per new VB for September EB3 is unavailable, is really means that there will not be any approvals in September? Or all visa allocated applicants can expect approvals in Sep?
USICS does magic all the time.. So nothing os impossible!! Hope for the best.
 
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As per july bulletin,they should not approve EB3 but so many people are getting approved in EB3.Even if they say available,eb2 visa will not get approve.It all depends on how uscis is doing their job they wont see these date for approval.there is no logic behind for uscis.so dont worry.eb3 may get approval or EB2 may not .we cant say anything
 
All the approval cases that we see were pre-adjudicated when the PD was current. I think we will continue to see approvals till Sep end regardless of the Sep VB. Since Oct is a new fiscal year for USCIS with its new visa quota, next month's VB is the crucial thing to watch whether or not we are impacted by retro. my 2 cents
 
My take on VB and future for non-ROW EB-3

I do not see much hope for EB-3. It is only going to get worse from here.

Here is my logic:

With the July VB Fiasco, USCIS allowed half a million of new applications (just a guess it could be much more according to other estimates). Most of these applications were based on labor that were filed a while back but were stuck in DOL backlogs. DOL have cleared their backlogs big time in recent past. Now when October Bulletin will come out it will take into account the new applications filed with old PDs so it will retrogress real bad even for EB-2 I beleive but for EB-3 big time. I am talking about non-ROW countries. This may not look bad in October...depending on their receipting speed of new application but will get worse as month pass by. So some relief may come toward the end on 2008 yr quota.

People who do not get approval by Septemeber (due to pre-adjudication logic) are in for a long haul. We are royally screwed. Now seems like even 5 yrs wont be not long enough. Can not guess the date buy my thought is that it should go backward then the last EB-3 dates. Sigh.

Anyone...any other logic or any flaw in my thought process???

MV
 
I do not see much hope for EB-3. It is only going to get worse from here.

Here is my logic:

With the July VB Fiasco, USCIS allowed half a million of new applications (just a guess it could be much more according to other estimates). Most of these applications were based on labor that were filed a while back but were stuck in DOL backlogs. DOL have cleared their backlogs big time in recent past. Now when October Bulletin will come out it will take into account the new applications filed with old PDs so it will retrogress real bad even for EB-2 I beleive but for EB-3 big time. I am talking about non-ROW countries. This may not look bad in October...depending on their receipting speed of new application but will get worse as month pass by. So some relief may come toward the end on 2008 yr quota.

People who do not get approval by Septemeber (due to pre-adjudication logic) are in for a long haul. We are royally screwed. Now seems like even 5 yrs wont be not long enough. Can not guess the date buy my thought is that it should go backward then the last EB-3 dates. Sigh.

Anyone...any other logic or any flaw in my thought process???

MV
Offcourse, retrogression will set in...but, not beyond the previous for EB3. I believe they'll start at May-2001 & start moving ahead slowly.
Goodluck.
 
Why do you think not beyon May '01? What about the labor application that were filed before 2001 and only got cleared last 2 years?

Mind you for last 2 years, Eb-3 were not able to file I-485 for unavailability of visa but were able to now with July VB fiasco.

MV
 
It is a shame that they ended up backdating the EBs. Regular EB3 have moved back 5 years. They put legal immigrants in roller coaster, then they wonder where did all these illegal immigrants came from. It is time to do another protest like what happened last month ago. Lets send those flowers to USCIS.
 
My 2-cents:

That is correct. But it also has a positive angle, because the people whose prioruty date is very old such as 2001 or mid 2002 deserve approval before the prople with PD of 2004/5.

Imagine if they keep PD of Current in the new VB, that will be worst because half a million people will be eligible and the old people with old PD will really be even more scrowed up.




It is a shame that they ended up backdating the EBs. Regular EB3 have moved back 5 years. They put legal immigrants in roller coaster, then they wonder where did all these illegal immigrants came from. It is time to do another protest like what happened last month ago. Lets send those flowers to USCIS.
 
Over 70% of the labor BEC got cleared before June. Most people who applied in July but could not apply in June or earlier have done so because their PD was not old enough; not because they were stuck in the BEC.

So while there may have been a half million who applied in July, the vast majority of them will have relatively new priority dates, like 2004 or later. The only logical reason for setting the EB3 dates back to 2002 or earlier is to focus on approving the old cases that are still pending after several years; not because of the new flood of I-485 applications in July/August.
 
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Guys,

Well, I remember there were numerous discussion in this forum about the availability of visa. People has came out with lot of logic, rationals, theories, etc. etc. No one had predicted the mass approved we witness last months, thousands of cases got approved. I recall, peoples were talking 5-10 years....

Anything is possible. USCIS may come-up with hidden unused visa and start Tsunami of approvals or could completely retrogress everyone with no rhyme or reason. Believe me guys nothing is predicable here, we can analyze for months and when it comes USCIS does exactly the opposite. I often used to laugh when people talk about luck in GC approval but I believe they were right.

The thought of getting retrogress itself is enough for losing sleep for some of us, but we all see it coming. Hopefully, the visas are assigned to our cases and shall see some approvals soon.

Good Luck!
 
That is exactly what I think. About 95 % people who applied last to months have recent PD, otherwise, they would have been able to apply earlier anyway, like us.

To me, Regro seems to be for good cause...


Over 70% of the labor BEC got cleared before June. Most people who applied in July but could not apply in June or earlier have done so because their PD was not old enough; not because they were stuck in the BEC.

So while there may have been a half million who applied in July, the vast majority of them will have relatively new priority dates, like 2004 or later. The only logical reason for setting the EB3 dates back to 2002 or earlier is to focus on approving the old cases that are still pending after several years; not because of the new flood of I-485 applications in July/August.
 
Were EB-3 guys able to apply prior to July VB? I thought it was unavailable.

So you are saying that some one like me EB-3 with PD of Aug '02 India hold hope? You think it wont retrogress for whole next year?

MV

Over 70% of the labor BEC got cleared before June. Most people who applied in July but could not apply in June or earlier have done so because their PD was not old enough; not because they were stuck in the BEC.

So while there may have been a half million who applied in July, the vast majority of them will have relatively new priority dates, like 2004 or later. The only logical reason for setting the EB3 dates back to 2002 or earlier is to focus on approving the old cases that are still pending after several years; not because of the new flood of I-485 applications in July/August.
 
Were EB-3 guys able to apply prior to July VB? I thought it was unavailable.
It was available all along until the July fiasco. EB3 ROW moved forward by a year in May, then in June both EB3 India and EB3 ROW jumped forward by more than a year.

So you are saying that some one like me EB-3 with PD of Aug '02 India hold hope? You think it wont retrogress for whole next year?
Given the large number of cases that have been recently approved and are now out of the queue, I definitely would not expect things to be worse than they were in May. Maybe in October-December they will set the dates very far back because of their fear of "anticipated demand", but after that there will be pressure on DHS and USCIS to move the dates forward and start approving more cases. With your PD in 2002, I would be surprised if you don't become current before next year September.
 
Jack please predict what will happen on October VB for eb3 row!
I can't. The dates in October probably will not have any rational basis. USCIS likes to start the fiscal year lazily. I don't think the dates will reflect the reality of the situation until sometime next year when the Ombudsman and others question why the approval rate is so slow.
 
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