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kaligurl

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Hello, everyone,

I received a letter from INS/Missouri few days ago. That would be normal thing, but... It is dated August 15, 2005 and was sent out on December 28, 2005!!! It says that my application for adjustment of status was administratively closed due to ongoing removal proceedings. Strange, I did not know. I filed I-485 along with I-130 in April. Never had interview. Did receive my EAD in local office. Finally, did get my SSN few weeks ago and DL few months ago. I mean, all seems fine, as far as receiving documents (which were obviously checked with INS recently), website status through USCIS and also, when I went last time to LO, they said everything is fine with them when I inquired about SSA's inability to issue me a SSN supposedly due to not updated database at USCIS, but that wasn't the case. I mean do I even have to bother worrying when all else seems ok? What the heck is going on? Also, I will obviously consult my lawyer, as letter was addressed to him (but I never heard from him, so I assume he didn't get anything either?)... As far as missing stuff, like other people mentioned, that's not the case here either, we supplied everything, tax returns etc. and the minimum income was met also; and they received my medical, stating afterwards that it will take about 120 to 180 days or less to decide, that was in July. Do I have to file Motion to reopen or what? Are they just asking for money... Not sure what to think here.
 
are u overstay here or do u know if you ever get anything in regard to deportation? Basically what that means is you have a removal proceeding status on your file or deportation status

tell us more detail about your immigration history, like how did u come here? Which visa? Did u overstay your visa? Are from the country where you were suppose to go for special registration in year 2001? Did u go? Did u ever apply for GC and got divorce? etc.

There are a lot of possibilities that they would give you that notice, unless you tell us the detail, we wouldn't know what is going on.

USCIS will not just closed the AOS unless there is something going on.
 
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Well, I checked your previous posts over here and I just know that you have been here for over 5 years and you are from Slovakia. That's it. So I will wait that you explain a little bit more about your entire case to have a better scope.
Hope your lawyer didn't screw up something, it is my understanding that you are married with a USC right?
Keep us posted.
The closing of your case is because of the removal proceedings, so that means before you apply for AOS you were actually in removal proceedings? and they accept all your documents and even issue an EAD? doesn't make any sense.
 
kaligurl said:
Hello, everyone,

I received a letter from INS/Missouri few days ago. That would be normal thing, but... It is dated August 15, 2005 and was sent out on December 28, 2005!!! It says that my application for adjustment of status was administratively closed due to ongoing removal proceedings. Strange, I did not know. I filed I-485 along with I-130 in April. Never had interview. Did receive my EAD in local office. Finally, did get my SSN few weeks ago and DL few months ago. I mean, all seems fine, as far as receiving documents (which were obviously checked with INS recently), website status through USCIS and also, when I went last time to LO, they said everything is fine with them when I inquired about SSA's inability to issue me a SSN supposedly due to not updated database at USCIS, but that wasn't the case. I mean do I even have to bother worrying when all else seems ok? What the heck is going on? Also, I will obviously consult my lawyer, as letter was addressed to him (but I never heard from him, so I assume he didn't get anything either?)... As far as missing stuff, like other people mentioned, that's not the case here either, we supplied everything, tax returns etc. and the minimum income was met also; and they received my medical, stating afterwards that it will take about 120 to 180 days or less to decide, that was in July. Do I have to file Motion to reopen or what? Are they just asking for money... Not sure what to think here.
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You should get an INFOPASS appt and talk to an officer at your DO and show all your receipts. If he/she confirms whats in the letter, then you need help from a lawyer. At this point, nothing can be said. If your case is simple, as in, you entered US legally, you never overstayed your visa, you were not in immigration proceedings before you applied for AOS, you should be fine i guess. You'll know more after your visit to your DO. Good luck!
 
Well, I have been in the US for over 5 years, 4 of them illegally I guess. I came as a visitor and applied for an extension which I got. Then I applied for another one and never saw any more letters. In February 2005 I got married to USC and filed all the stuff at the beginning of April. I was not aware of any deportations, maybe because of the old address screw up, like I never got that second extension decision (which I have the feeling was negative). But this came a s a surprise to me completely, i mean everything was going fine. Even when I went to LO last month. I believe they would mention that? And the date of the letter and date sent out 4 months later, that's the biggest mystery... I thought illegal presence alone does not constitute an obstacle when marrying USC. Deportation proceedings never reached me, I guess they should be send out carefully and REGISTERED. They don't even have a proof I got them.
 
kaligurl said:
Well, I have been in the US for over 5 years, 4 of them illegally I guess. I came as a visitor and applied for an extension which I got. Then I applied for another one and never saw any more letters. In February 2005 I got married to USC and filed all the stuff at the beginning of April. I was not aware of any deportations, maybe because of the old address screw up, like I never got that second extension decision (which I have the feeling was negative). But this came a s a surprise to me completely, i mean everything was going fine. Even when I went to LO last month. I believe they would mention that? And the date of the letter and date sent out 4 months later, that's the biggest mystery... I thought illegal presence alone does not constitute an obstacle when marrying USC. Deportation proceedings never reached me, I guess they should be send out carefully and REGISTERED. They don't even have a proof I got them.
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You are right, they don't have a proof you got them. But, you see, they don't NEED such a proof. When you file for immigration benefits, it is YOUR responsibility to keep your address with the INS updated. Technically, EVERY alien in the states, regardless of their visa type is obliged to file an AR11 within 10 days of moving. Sorry to sound like I am not sympathetic, but it seems to me you screwed up by overstaying your visa and you'll have to pay for it. Just hope the price is not too high.
 
omg_stfu,
I don't understand why people sometime post here acting like they are immigration jugdes ,discouraging and even worse outrightly condemning others when someone comes to this website to get advice and possibly alleviation to their anxiety.

Millions of people come here and overstay their visas she is not the first and won't be the last..if it was such a big big crime,there wouldn't have been any law forgiving spouses of USC at all.Your opinion or post isn't going to stop people,so it is not fair for you to talk to kaligurl in this manner....she came for solutions,if you have none,don't post and don't add to her headaches...

Kaligurl,do as others have advised,get infopass and hear the real story going on,if you are in any trouble,get a lawyer...goodluck!
 
ncgirl said:
omg_stfu,
I don't understand why people sometime post here acting like they are immigration jugdes ,discouraging and even worse outrightly condemning others when someone comes to this website to get advice and possibly alleviation to their anxiety.

Millions of people come here and overstay their visas she is not the first and won't be the last..if it was such a big big crime,there wouldn't have been any law forgiving spouses of USC at all.Your opinion or post isn't going to stop people,so it is not fair for you to talk to kaligurl in this manner....she came for solutions,if you have none,don't post and don't add to her headaches...

Kaligurl,do as others have advised,get infopass and hear the real story going on,if you are in any trouble,get a lawyer...goodluck!
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ncgirl,
I wish you read my original post twice before trying to label me. No, I am not an immigration judge, neither am I person whose intention is to discourage posters on this board. However, I do think that the OP made a mistake and she should pay for it. Sorry if this is not PC or not in compliance with your unwritten code of posting - it's just my opinion. One question, though: Do you realize what the true reason for the enormous INS backlog is? Don't you see how there are hundreds of thousands of people who are deprived of timely resolution to their immigration benefits applications, just because there are tens of thousands of applications that are based on fake marriages, phony relationships, exaggerated claims, etc?
And lastly, can you not see past the OP's plea for leniency? Why did she apply for an extension (although we all know that she can't get such an extension because she'd already been to the US as a tourist for more than a year) and not change her address after she moved? Whose responsibility was that? Now she's surprised that the INS took action 4 years ago? Come on, give me a break. We're all responsible grown-ups, are we not?

Edit: Also, if you don't like my posts, you realize you are at complete liberty not to read them, right? Feel free to put me on your ignore list and cut the advice on how my posts should sound in your world.
 
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u r simply not in the position to judge her cos that is what u r doing,saying she has to pay for her overstay...she doesn't need it now...backlog is not due to overstays..it is due to the ratio of one country(america)to (all other countries of the world) as well as too few USCIS workers for the volume of what they have to do...

thanks for the advice..i'll ignore you.
 
God will not help you on this.

I will put omg_stfu on the ignore list too, I do not want to waste time to read his/her posts, giving no useful information, judging people as if he/she never done anything wrong.
 
zhm said:
I will put omg_stfu on the ignore list too, I do not want to waste time to read his/her posts, giving no useful information, judging people as if he/she never done anything wrong.
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Firstly, I have to say that I care about zhm and the other person putting me on their ignore lists no more than I care about, let's say, the humidity of the air in Bangladesh. Whatever rocks your boats, people! :D

Secondly, just like you think that it's OK to overstay a visa and you feel free to express your opinion on a public forum such as this one, I feel that it's WRONG, and i feel no less free to express my stand. Capichi?

And lastly, no, I am not a saint and I've deffinitely done 'wrong' things. BUT, breaking immigration laws is NOT among my wrongdoings and I do condemn it.
Sorry if I am hurting your little feelings.
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Wel, well, well... I did not mean to stirr up things here. And yes, it is SOOO easy to judge somebody especially when you've never been in my position, people, some of you. And nobody's situation is exactly the same. When I applied for the second extension, it was ok at that time, unlike now, rare to get it, but I supplied everything I had just to persuade them. The letter was addressed to one of my friends where I was staying at the time and he leased his condo, so that's how it got lost. And, I don't mean to sound trivial, but why would I ever give them my real address when I wasn't sure what's gonna happen??? But hey, I didn't know much at that time, things happened and now I'm trying to fix them. Anyways, on that letter it says it's possible to file MTR and it doesn't seem like this is the last warning and no way ahead. And that this decision is without prejudice to further applications. Well, I know people who were in similar situation and got out of it. All I was wondering is that date inconsistency and some help. I will definitely consult my lawyer, funny, he never got anything either about this...
 
I completely agree with omg_stfu and his reasonings. Its not about judging anyone. Its just about doing the RIGHT thing and 'illegal' doesn't have excuses or different version of definition, it just has one and laws are not created to be broken.
 
coolmeg said:
I completely agree with omg_stfu and his reasonings. Its not about judging anyone. Its just about doing the RIGHT thing and 'illegal' doesn't have excuses or different version of definition, it just has one and laws are not created to be broken.
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Ditto.
I don't understand what "being in this situation" means. Who put the OP in this situation? If I come on a B1/B2 (as I did) and overstayed it (which I didn't), whose fault would it be?! The INS'? Come on.
We all make choices, sometimes good, sometimes bad; with the latter we end up paying a price. As I said before, I hope the price in this particular case is not too high.

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Contrary to what ncgirl says, backlog can be partially attributed to applications with no merit. Example: Asylum cases.
 
kaligurl,

I would also need more details about your case. It is indeed pretty strange, I mean the notice. I don't understand this part but I DO KNOW that HOWEVER LONG your overstay is, the moment you marry US citizen that illegal time is "foregiven" (of course you cannot leave the country until you hold the green card in your hand. If you do you will be ban from coming back to US for 10 years whether you are married to US citizen or not).
Me as well I came here on B2 visa, I applied as well for another half year of extension and was granted it. According to law you cannot apply for another extension and I unfortunately overstayed. I got married to US citizen after half a year of my overtay and applied for green card. I received my work permit 3 months after (walk in) and after 5 months I received a notice for initial inetrview which I am going to have on February 6. As far as I know any overstay (as long as you entered US legally, which you obviously did) is foregiven.
And some people here are right, make an infopass appointment and hope to talk to somebody "nice" (sometimes "they happen to be there!";)
and....good luck!!!! Hope everything will be fine because deportation sounds pretty serious and I cannot find an answer why would it be so....not now.....not after you married US Citizen..hmm...interesting

good luck one more time!
 
Hello,

little update here. Went to talk to my lawyer today. He called some number (USCIS port?) and entered my alien number. Turned out, it has somebody else's name!!! What the... is that mess there, I don't even care anymore. He just asked me if I ever got removal order, I said no. Then he said i should not worry about it and he will send a letter. So, guys, you know what, I will stop worrying because it would drive me crazy.
 
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