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We need action!

Dear immigrants:

I have drawn an open letter to President. Please review and contribute your opinion. We need union to fight for our green cards, otherwise many people don’t know our situation and nobody will pay high attention to legal immigration problem.

I have a couple of questions in my letter.

Illegal immigration is a hot issue right now and I haven’t found many good ideas about it. In order to contribute our thoughts, I put illegal immigration content in the letter, also it may have more people to pay attention to this letter and realize how important to make immigrant coming to USA legally. But the letter is too long, I am afraid if people will read whole letter. Please let me know your opinion ------ delete this part or keep it.

One voice or two voices are nothing. More voices may mean something. Please put your information in the bottom of the letter. If you have any suggestion or amend this letter, you are no more than welcome to contribute your thoughts. I’ll re-write this letter after I gather more new ideas, then send to President, Congress and media.

In order for me to get information easily, please click http://boards.immigrationportal.com...799#post1421799 and put all information in the same thread. Thanks a lot.

NJ EB3 RIR
PD Aug. 2002
45 day letter received and replied in Sep. 2005
Email: bluesky133@hotmail.com[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]




President George W. Bush
The President of the United States
U.S. White House
Washington, D.C. 20001

An open letter to President George W. Bush

Dear Mr. President:

We write to endorse your admirable commitment to immigration issues. Recently, more and more illegal immigrant issues are in the newspaper and on television. We appreciate the idea that you disagree to letting illegal immigrants become U.S. citizens since the United States is a legal system country.

We are legal immigrants. All of us are skilled people and paying taxes. We would like to contribute our intelligence and skills to this country’s economic and advance technology development, but we have endless worry and pain waiting for a green card! We are suffering!

The green card process is extremely slow after 911. Some of us have been waiting for labor certificates several years and still waiting without knowing anything, when and whether we can get approval or not. We cannot change our job when another position is more fitting to us and the employer cannot find this kind of skilled person during our endless waiting.

Although the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) has taken some steps to reform the process and two backlog centers in Philadelphia and Dallas to handle all national backlog cases. There are many problems such as:

45 day letter: After backlog case is entered into system, 45 day letter will be sent to the employers / attorney who must reply to this letter within 45 days, otherwise the case will be closed. But the backlog centers send 45 day letters are out of order. We are unable to trace our case status and don’t know the process time schedule. In case 45 day letter mail is missing, miss delivery or employer has replied to the letter, but backlog center hasn’t received it, all of those things happened are resulting in our case being closed, but we are still waiting until we receive a cased closed notice. Some cases are closed by error. Some people who submitted application in 2001 haven’t got a 45 day letter yet.

“First in, first out” rule: As a matter of fact, many labor certificate approvals come out without an order. Some people have been waiting more than four years and are still waiting, but some people who submitted their applications in 2003 and even in 2004 have got labor certificate approval!

Immigration processing retrogress: Even if we get labor certificate approval finally, we need to file 140 Form which may take several months to years. After #140 approval, because of retrogress ((#485 cut off date is May 1, 2001 for EB3, it's more than 5 years behind now. it moved only 4 months in the past more than two years!), we may still have to wait several years before we can file #485 and apply for advance parole which allow us to travel. Our work visa has to be extended again and again while waiting. Our spouse with H4 visa can’t go to work. We can’t make long term plans for ourselves and our family’s future. Some people are planning to go back to their motherland country or other countries where skilled people are welcomed. Some of our friends who are in foreign countries have no intention of moving to USA after they hear our stories. The USA may lose some highly educated and skilled people.

For most of us who go through the labor certificate process, it seems that we may have to spend a decade to go through the entire employment-based green card process if we are lucky enough to get it. If we fail to get approval in any stage, we may have to leave this country soon. It is a very long green card journey. The journey is in the darkness. Many of us haven’t visited our family members and friends in our motherland country for many years because of green card problem. Also, it is hard for our family members to get US visas to visit us. We are very homesick; we miss our family members and friends so much. We can’t stand being apart from our family especially when our parents are very sick, but we are unable to take care of them. Some people even missed seeing their parents one last time before they passed away. Dear President, you have a family, therefore you can imagine how tough it is for us. We have lost our freedom in some way.

All of the above is based on facts and our experiences. We earnestly request you, Mr. President, to pay high attention to legal immigrant issues. We have below petitions:

1. “First in, first out” rule, every stage of green card process must follow this rule. There are too many backlog cases which may be messed up; it’s hard for the backlog center to get every single case done orderly, so the priority date should go through all processes no matter when the approval of Labor Certificate and #140 is issued.
2. The Labor of Department makes public the process time schedule at least once a month. Applicants can trace their case status from internet.
3. To speed up the green card process.
4. Someone who has been staying in the USA more than five years or working in the USA more than three years should be free to get a travel visa to travel especially to their motherland no matter in what the stage of his/her green card.
5. Someone who has been working in the USA more than five years, his/her spouse should be allowed to get work permission.

Mr. President, we know you are worrying about this country’s security and illegal immigrant issues. We also concern about these issues and have below suggestions for your reference.

1. Illegal immigrants who have been staying the USA more than five years can get three year work visa and renew another three years once in the USA but not allowed to apply for green card unless they go back to their country to apply for work visa and enter this country with legal documents.
2. Illegal immigrants who have been staying in the USA less than 5 years but more than three years can get non-renewable three year work visa and not be allowed to apply for green card unless they leave the USA to apply for work visa and enter this country with legal documents.
3. Illegal immigrants who have been staying in the USA less than three years must leave the USA to apply for work visa and enter this country with legal documents.
4. Set up fast and simple channel to get work visa. Give illegal immigrants a chance to be legal immigrants based on their conduct and US job market requirement. In order to encourage illegal immigrants leave USA early and apply for work visa legally, besides green card’s condition, this type of work visa need quota limited every year and special rules including below factors: How many years have they been in the USA before, their family member status, their behavior such as paying taxes, do not commit crimes and others while they are in the USA.

Note: Above four points showed importance of legal system and give illegal immigrants a chance to correct their mistake from humanitarianism.

5. Make more strict laws against the employer who hires illegal immigrant and lawyer who makes counterfeit documents for illegal immigrants. Increases penalties for employing illegal aliens.
6. Limited illegal immigrant’s rights by laws. Such as: Cannot get any financial service (bank account, loan and credit card). Not allowed to buy a car and take any transportation, no driver’s license. Cannot rent and buy a house/apartment.
7. Anyone who provides above rights to illegal immigrant will be fined for breaking the law.
8. Illegal immigration laws must be published and announced on newspapers, TV and radio for a long time period, let everybody know those laws.

Note: After illegal immigrants realize it’s very difficult to work and live here without legal document, they may leave USA and get legal document into the USA. In case some illegal immigrants don’t want to leave the USA, it will be more and tougher for them to work and live here. Eventually, they have to leave the USA. Then more and more people who are outside of USA will try to come to USA legally.

9. New crossing border illegal immigrants must be immediate deported and left their fingerprints with 10 years prohibit entering USA.
Note: After those illegal immigrants went back with 10 years penalty, their family members, relatives and friends will know immediately and may stop to cross border automatically.

10. Set up fingerprint verify information system for everybody in the United State, which connects with personal ID and social security number.

Note: Since a lot of places have used this system, it will not cost huge amount of extra money to build this system for more places, but it will be a big help for the home security in the future and reduce other crimes such as stealing ID and social security number.

The above suggestions may solve illegal immigrant issues for fundamental reasons and make the homeland security more efficient from now and in the future. We don’t think it is a good ideal to build a border. It may waste money but will be no help in preventing illegal immigrants. Open the legal channel widely for the people who are qualified to come to USA and make illegal immigrant very tough to survive here, we think, this is the key to prevent illegal immigrants.

Mr. President, we are looking forward to your solving both legal and illegal immigrant problems successfully during you are in office.

Sincerely,
Legal Immigrants’ Ally

Number State Category PD 45 day letter Stage E-mail
No.1 NJ EB3 RIR Aug. 2002 Sep. 2005 LC Bluesky133@hotmail.com[SIZE=3]undefined[/SIZE][FONT=Arial]undefined[/FONT][COLOR=Blue]undefined[/COLOR]
 
Nice effort. One thing though - the president cannot make any changes as requested by you - he is not a king of the country.

Changes to the system can only be made by new laws or by amending old ones and only Congress can do that.
 
You might want to rephrase the below to "you disagree to letting illegal immigrants become US citizens immediately", otherwise you might offend the good President.

The man is one of the supporters pushing the hard-to-pass bill which would charge $2,000 and make them wait few years to get the citizenship. This is ironic and off topic, but I have paid more $10,000 so far in attorney fees to keep my status and I have been waiting 4+ years in the queue already. And they say that's not an amnesty.

"We appreciate the idea that you disagree to letting illegal immigrants become U.S. citizens since the United States is a legal system country."


bluesky133 said:
We need action!

Dear immigrants:

I have drawn an open letter to President. Please review and contribute your opinion. We need union to fight for our green cards, otherwise many people don’t know our situation and nobody will pay high attention to legal immigration problem.

I have a couple of questions in my letter.

Illegal immigration is a hot issue right now and I haven’t found many good ideas about it. In order to contribute our thoughts, I put illegal immigration content in the letter, also it may have more people to pay attention to this letter and realize how important to make immigrant coming to USA legally. But the letter is too long, I am afraid if people will read whole letter. Please let me know your opinion ------ delete this part or keep it.

One voice or two voices are nothing. More voices may mean something. Please put your information in the bottom of the letter. If you have any suggestion or amend this letter, you are no more than welcome to contribute your thoughts. I’ll re-write this letter after I gather more new ideas, then send to President, Congress and media.

In order for me to get information easily, please click http://boards.immigrationportal.com...799#post1421799 and put all information in the same thread. Thanks a lot.

NJ EB3 RIR
PD Aug. 2002
45 day letter received and replied in Sep. 2005
Email: bluesky133@hotmail.com[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]




President George W. Bush
The President of the United States
U.S. White House
Washington, D.C. 20001

An open letter to President George W. Bush

Dear Mr. President:

We write to endorse your admirable commitment to immigration issues. Recently, more and more illegal immigrant issues are in the newspaper and on television. We appreciate the idea that you disagree to letting illegal immigrants become U.S. citizens since the United States is a legal system country.

We are legal immigrants. All of us are skilled people and paying taxes. We would like to contribute our intelligence and skills to this country’s economic and advance technology development, but we have endless worry and pain waiting for a green card! We are suffering!

The green card process is extremely slow after 911. Some of us have been waiting for labor certificates several years and still waiting without knowing anything, when and whether we can get approval or not. We cannot change our job when another position is more fitting to us and the employer cannot find this kind of skilled person during our endless waiting.

Although the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) has taken some steps to reform the process and two backlog centers in Philadelphia and Dallas to handle all national backlog cases. There are many problems such as:

45 day letter: After backlog case is entered into system, 45 day letter will be sent to the employers / attorney who must reply to this letter within 45 days, otherwise the case will be closed. But the backlog centers send 45 day letters are out of order. We are unable to trace our case status and don’t know the process time schedule. In case 45 day letter mail is missing, miss delivery or employer has replied to the letter, but backlog center hasn’t received it, all of those things happened are resulting in our case being closed, but we are still waiting until we receive a cased closed notice. Some cases are closed by error. Some people who submitted application in 2001 haven’t got a 45 day letter yet.

“First in, first out” rule: As a matter of fact, many labor certificate approvals come out without an order. Some people have been waiting more than four years and are still waiting, but some people who submitted their applications in 2003 and even in 2004 have got labor certificate approval!

Immigration processing retrogress: Even if we get labor certificate approval finally, we need to file 140 Form which may take several months to years. After #140 approval, because of retrogress ((#485 cut off date is May 1, 2001 for EB3, it's more than 5 years behind now. it moved only 4 months in the past more than two years!), we may still have to wait several years before we can file #485 and apply for advance parole which allow us to travel. Our work visa has to be extended again and again while waiting. Our spouse with H4 visa can’t go to work. We can’t make long term plans for ourselves and our family’s future. Some people are planning to go back to their motherland country or other countries where skilled people are welcomed. Some of our friends who are in foreign countries have no intention of moving to USA after they hear our stories. The USA may lose some highly educated and skilled people.

For most of us who go through the labor certificate process, it seems that we may have to spend a decade to go through the entire employment-based green card process if we are lucky enough to get it. If we fail to get approval in any stage, we may have to leave this country soon. It is a very long green card journey. The journey is in the darkness. Many of us haven’t visited our family members and friends in our motherland country for many years because of green card problem. Also, it is hard for our family members to get US visas to visit us. We are very homesick; we miss our family members and friends so much. We can’t stand being apart from our family especially when our parents are very sick, but we are unable to take care of them. Some people even missed seeing their parents one last time before they passed away. Dear President, you have a family, therefore you can imagine how tough it is for us. We have lost our freedom in some way.

All of the above is based on facts and our experiences. We earnestly request you, Mr. President, to pay high attention to legal immigrant issues. We have below petitions:

1. “First in, first out” rule, every stage of green card process must follow this rule. There are too many backlog cases which may be messed up; it’s hard for the backlog center to get every single case done orderly, so the priority date should go through all processes no matter when the approval of Labor Certificate and #140 is issued.
2. The Labor of Department makes public the process time schedule at least once a month. Applicants can trace their case status from internet.
3. To speed up the green card process.
4. Someone who has been staying in the USA more than five years or working in the USA more than three years should be free to get a travel visa to travel especially to their motherland no matter in what the stage of his/her green card.
5. Someone who has been working in the USA more than five years, his/her spouse should be allowed to get work permission.

Mr. President, we know you are worrying about this country’s security and illegal immigrant issues. We also concern about these issues and have below suggestions for your reference.

1. Illegal immigrants who have been staying the USA more than five years can get three year work visa and renew another three years once in the USA but not allowed to apply for green card unless they go back to their country to apply for work visa and enter this country with legal documents.
2. Illegal immigrants who have been staying in the USA less than 5 years but more than three years can get non-renewable three year work visa and not be allowed to apply for green card unless they leave the USA to apply for work visa and enter this country with legal documents.
3. Illegal immigrants who have been staying in the USA less than three years must leave the USA to apply for work visa and enter this country with legal documents.
4. Set up fast and simple channel to get work visa. Give illegal immigrants a chance to be legal immigrants based on their conduct and US job market requirement. In order to encourage illegal immigrants leave USA early and apply for work visa legally, besides green card’s condition, this type of work visa need quota limited every year and special rules including below factors: How many years have they been in the USA before, their family member status, their behavior such as paying taxes, do not commit crimes and others while they are in the USA.

Note: Above four points showed importance of legal system and give illegal immigrants a chance to correct their mistake from humanitarianism.

5. Make more strict laws against the employer who hires illegal immigrant and lawyer who makes counterfeit documents for illegal immigrants. Increases penalties for employing illegal aliens.
6. Limited illegal immigrant’s rights by laws. Such as: Cannot get any financial service (bank account, loan and credit card). Not allowed to buy a car and take any transportation, no driver’s license. Cannot rent and buy a house/apartment.
7. Anyone who provides above rights to illegal immigrant will be fined for breaking the law.
8. Illegal immigration laws must be published and announced on newspapers, TV and radio for a long time period, let everybody know those laws.

Note: After illegal immigrants realize it’s very difficult to work and live here without legal document, they may leave USA and get legal document into the USA. In case some illegal immigrants don’t want to leave the USA, it will be more and tougher for them to work and live here. Eventually, they have to leave the USA. Then more and more people who are outside of USA will try to come to USA legally.

9. New crossing border illegal immigrants must be immediate deported and left their fingerprints with 10 years prohibit entering USA.
Note: After those illegal immigrants went back with 10 years penalty, their family members, relatives and friends will know immediately and may stop to cross border automatically.

10. Set up fingerprint verify information system for everybody in the United State, which connects with personal ID and social security number.

Note: Since a lot of places have used this system, it will not cost huge amount of extra money to build this system for more places, but it will be a big help for the home security in the future and reduce other crimes such as stealing ID and social security number.

The above suggestions may solve illegal immigrant issues for fundamental reasons and make the homeland security more efficient from now and in the future. We don’t think it is a good ideal to build a border. It may waste money but will be no help in preventing illegal immigrants. Open the legal channel widely for the people who are qualified to come to USA and make illegal immigrant very tough to survive here, we think, this is the key to prevent illegal immigrants.

Mr. President, we are looking forward to your solving both legal and illegal immigrant problems successfully during you are in office.

Sincerely,
Legal Immigrants’ Ally

Number State Category PD 45 day letter Stage E-mail
No.1 NJ EB3 RIR Aug. 2002 Sep. 2005 LC Bluesky133@hotmail.com[SIZE=3]undefined[/SIZE][FONT=Arial]undefined[/FONT][COLOR=Blue]undefined[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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backroady said:
Nice effort. One thing though - the president cannot make any changes as requested by you - he is not a king of the country.

Changes to the system can only be made by new laws or by amending old ones and only Congress can do that.
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Yes, besides President, we need many powerful people to know our situation and make new immigration police. It's why I write "An open letter" instead "A letter" and want to send to many people.

We need union, more people is better, otherwise they may ignore this letter. Could you post your information here? Could you talk to your friends who are in same situation and want to join us? If yes, put them information too. I'll put all individual information in the bottom of this letter, which means we are ally instead of only few people. They need pay attention to this.
 
Bluesky,
There is no dearth of organizations contacting the lawmakers - including many fromed by legal immigration applications, such immigration voice, and professional organizations such as AILA. It is quite admirable that you are taking the initiative of writing to the president, and as an individual sending a letter, this is great. However, if it is to be sent as a letter expressing the opinions of the community as a whole, one would rather all these efforts be co-ordinated and use one of the existing organizations.

bluesky133 said:
Yes, besides President, we need many powerful people to know our situation and make new immigration police. It's why I write "An open letter" instead "A letter" and want to send to many people.

We need union, more people is better, otherwise they may ignore this letter. Could you post your information here? Could you talk to your friends who are in same situation and want to join us? If yes, put them information too. I'll put all individual information in the bottom of this letter, which means we are ally instead of only few people. They need pay attention to this.
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marlon2006 said:
You might want to rephrase the below to "you disagree to letting illegal immigrants become US citizens immediately", otherwise you might offend the good President.

The man is one of the supporters pushing the hard-to-pass bill which would charge $2,000 and make them wait few years to get the citizenship. This is ironic and off topic, but I have paid more $10,000 so far in attorney fees to keep my status and I have been waiting 4+ years in the queue already. And they say that's not an amnesty.

"We appreciate the idea that you disagree to letting illegal immigrants become U.S. citizens since the United States is a legal system country."
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It's not just unfair for the legal immigrants. I think it's very stupid idea to let illegal immigrants become US citizens, which may encourage more and more illegal immigrants coming to USA. It shouldn't allow immigrants becoming US citizen in future too unless they re-enter here with legal documents. The president did say that he disagree to let illegal immigrants getting citizenship. He said it many times. So I don't think it will offend him. As a contrast, he may feel happy that we agree with his idea at the point.

We need union, more people will be better, otherwise they may ignore this letter. Could you post your information here? Could you talk to your friends who are in same situation and want to join us? If yes, put them information too. I'll put all individual information in the bottom of this letter, which means we are ally instead of only few people. They need pay attention to this.
 
jnayar2006 said:
Bluesky,
There is no dearth of organizations contacting the lawmakers - including many fromed by legal immigration applications, such immigration voice, and professional organizations such as AILA. It is quite admirable that you are taking the initiative of writing to the president, and as an individual sending a letter, this is great. However, if it is to be sent as a letter expressing the opinions of the community as a whole, one would rather all these efforts be co-ordinated and use one of the existing organizations.
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Thank you for your feed back. If I sent this letter as a individual person, many people include media might not pay attention about this letter or not finish to read this letter because they think it's only one person's opinion. Most of them will ignore this letter. If there are many people information in the bottom of this letter, they may feel it's a serious issue since so many people say this.

Of course, if any organization who can deal with President, congress people, USCIS director and media about legal immigration issue better than we union, they will be no more than welcome to do this. I don't know any organization which can fight for us. Could you do something with those organiztions? It will save me a lot of time and efforts. I found that more and more people are paying high attention about illegal immigration issue but not many people know legal immigration problem, I think we as legal immigrants need do something now. No matter we do it by ourselve or any organization, which one is better, we chose which way to do this. Anyway, we need powerful people pay high attention to legal immigrants issue too.
 
Hello Bluesky133, you might want to research some more so your writing you be aligned somewhat with the President's thinking. The man does want the illegals to get citizenship. He attempts to disguise that by including a mere $2,000 and few years of waiting time, but the ultimate goal is to allow the illegals to get the permanent paperwork. That's for sure.

bluesky133 said:
It's not just unfair for the legal immigrants. I think it's very stupid idea to let illegal immigrants become US citizens, which may encourage more and more illegal immigrants coming to USA. It shouldn't allow immigrants becoming US citizen in future too unless they re-enter here with legal documents. The president did say that he disagree to let illegal immigrants getting citizenship. He said it many times. So I don't think it will offend him. As a contrast, he may feel happy that we agree with his idea at the point.

We need union, more people will be better, otherwise they may ignore this letter. Could you post your information here? Could you talk to your friends who are in same situation and want to join us? If yes, put them information too. I'll put all individual information in the bottom of this letter, which means we are ally instead of only few people. They need pay attention to this.
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Look up the word "Amnesty" in any dictionary... in Wikipedia, it says
"Amnesty (from the Greek amnestia, oblivion) is an act of justice by which the supreme power in a state restores those who may have been guilty of any offence against it to the position of innocent persons. It includes more than pardon, in as much as it obliterates all legal remembrance of the offence"

President Bush mentioned "path to citizenship" many times on news media... he may deny it is Amnesty but the fact is, he wants to wipe away the fact that illegals do not declare themselves when crossing into this country, which is an offence. When you read the CIR bill, you realise one very important thing: they don't have to be sponsored by one specific employer, all they need to do is show proof of employment... which can be faked.

Now, when you look at the definition of our H1 visas... it's "non-immigrant" which means we technically do not have a path to citizenship, although we are allowed to adjust our status to permanent residency thru the GC process.
We on the other hand HAVE to be sponsored by one specific employer thruout the process unless allowed to change jobs by sub-laws and memos....

So when you weigh the two groups of people, tell me who is actually getting special treatment and who is getting a stick up the ***.
 
I need a "bridge"

Hi, Marlon2006 & ufo2002:

Thank you for your information. I want to delete "We appreciate the idea that you disagree to letting illegal immigrants become U.S. citizens since the United States is a legal system country". But I need a "bridge" to connect from illegal to legal immigration issue in the letter and stand out that USA is a legal system country. Do you have any idea for this "bridge"?
 
I would just tell him that we as are skilled legal immigrants and we have been subject to a tremendous delays in our greencard process in parts due to the last amnesty granted in 2001 by President Clinton.




bluesky133 said:
Hi, Marlon2006 & ufo2002:

Thank you for your information. I want to delete "We appreciate the idea that you disagree to letting illegal immigrants become U.S. citizens since the United States is a legal system country". But I need a "bridge" to connect from illegal to legal immigration issue in the letter and stand out that USA is a legal system country. Do you have any idea for this "bridge"?
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