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swathy

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Dear all,
I am sorry to post this message if this is a wrong place to do so. I am looking for your help and advise. Here is my situation
I have been issued a warning memo by my supervisor for ordering some stationaries(like company letter head, envelopes) using company money. Actually employees are allowed to do so as per the company rule and that is why I did this. But my company believes that I have done this for personal use as I gave my home address for delivery. In fact, I gave my home address by mistake. It was not intentioanl. Anyway, I am asked to go through the memo. The memo says that I have violated company code by ordering company material for personal use(enough to terminate, they say). They are not terminating me, but says that they are issuing a final written warning(I haven't been given any warning, either verbal or written, before). So why it is a final written warning? How I can deal the isue? I have to sign and return the memo by monday. Please help. Please don't laugh at me for a mistake. I am confused as signing the memo means I am accepting the charges leveled against me. How this will affect my career and GC processing. I am an Ocober 485.
Thanks
Swathy
 
My opinion

I am sorry to know that.

The first thing to do I think is try to clarify this mistake to your boss and even director, make sure they understand this is purely a mistake and nothing else. Of course this all depends on the existing relationship you have with your boss. Bring those letters you received to your boss with you when trying to explain what happened.

If you have successfully convinced them that this is a mistake, then ask them help you to withdraw that memo. Sign it means you agree that you have stolen company asset. You don't want that record, do you? Even if you leave this job for next one or go to school, you need somebody to do recommendation for you, if you don't clear that, they may put that on.

Anyway, calm down and deal with it carefully.
 
Yes, ddaa2. Signing the memo means accepting the charges.
The incident was occurred on 16 October and the memo was isued on 18th. I have already spoken to my Boss and Director. My Boss, in fact, reported the whole issue to HR and HR called me to verify the issue. The memo was issued after all these. So I do not know how to proceed further.
Ddaa2, Your advise is helpful. I will try another shot to settle down the issue.
Swathy
 
are you a contractor? where you ordering supplies from your company or from your clients. If you are a contractor and the supplies you where ordering was from your company then say
you are sorry, mistake blah, blah blah but sign nothing.

it is up to them to decide whether to let you go - they probably
won't as they will in turn end up loosing money that you where bringing from your client.

If you are not a contractor then it is a different story. May be you might want to start look around for another job before things get ugly. Usually it is tough to make them change their minds.

From your email looks like even your boss is not supporting you
 
Friends,
Yes, I am a permanent employee.
I have appologised many times for my mistake or better say for my ignorance. They told me that they can terminate me for this, but they are not doing it. So they are issuing a final written warning. As Girish stated, they may be building a case against me for a future lay off or termination. I have been with this company for 5 years. My GC processing is in the final stage(RD october 2001). You can assume the agony of losing GC at the last moment
One more thing, I have applied for the stationaries through proper channel. The lady who is in charge of approving the orders approved it, otherwise, I could not even order anything
Thanks
Swathy
 
Why would you loose the GC? U'r RD:Oct'01 so you are all set except for getting GC into the hand.

Didn't know that after 6months of filing GC, there is no need to be with the employer, if they fire u.

Don't worry, everything will be ok.
 
Screw 'em

Originally posted by swathy
Friends,
Yes, I am a permanent employee.
I have appologised many times for my mistake or better say for my ignorance. They told me that they can terminate me for this, but they are not doing it. So they are issuing a final written warning. As Girish stated, they may be building a case against me for a future lay off or termination. I have been with this company for 5 years. My GC processing is in the final stage(RD october 2001). You can assume the agony of losing GC at the last moment
One more thing, I have applied for the stationaries through proper channel. The lady who is in charge of approving the orders approved it, otherwise, I could not even order anything
Thanks
Swathy
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Just quit and find another job. If you have a spouse, relative or a friend who can support you in the meanwhile (or if you have saved enough for a rainy day), just do it. Assuming what you say is true, obviously your boss is cooking up this issue in order to build a case against you.
I have seen this one happen before where the employee was a big jerk anyway (pls don't let this remark reflect your situation) and the management was desperately trying to build a case against him. They finally got him when he tried to take credit for somebody else's work. From then on, he was always under surveillance (no, not your Enemy of the State kind). Any sick day, personal days, missing deadlines -- even marginally, like a couple of hours for a project that was late by over two months -- were frowned upon. Finally, he decided enough was enough and he left.
I'm sure you don't want to be in his shoes. So find another job, use the AC21 provision and leave. It will do everybody a world of good.
Later on, maybe, once you get the greencard and if you have the time and energy, just file a sexual harassment case against that boss. It'll be fun to see how they handle stress ;)
Oh, and btw, there are no "permanent" employees. Just fulltime and parttime.
 
I would have resigned, had my GC not been in the final stage. The employer can withdraw the GC if they wish to do so. But anybody else in my place would have resigned by now irrespective of the GC outcome. The mental torturing that is given to me by my boss is that high. I could not eat or sleep well for the past few days (sorry for being too open)
Thanks for your comments and suggestions. I rephrase that I am a full time employee. Thanks for reminding me this American job rule
Swathy
 
Sawthy

I would say consult a attorney to file a sexual harassment case against that boss and at the same time find another job which can support your GC case, you can use 180 day rule. It might be another few month or not even that because you have a job that is similar.
 
I don't understand

Originally posted by swathy
I would have resigned, had my GC not been in the final stage. The employer can withdraw the GC if they wish to do so. But anybody else in my place would have resigned by now irrespective of the GC outcome. The mental torturing that is given to me by my boss is that high. I could not eat or sleep well for the past few days (sorry for being too open)
Thanks for your comments and suggestions. I rephrase that I am a full time employee. Thanks for reminding me this American job rule
Swathy
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It seems to me that you are not fully aware of the AC21 provision during I485 process. You said you filed your case in October 2001. It's been more than 180 days since, so you can safely move to another job without worrying about your current employer doing any harm to your case. If I were you, I would get another job and give the boss a birdie to show him that I don't give a flyin f**k about his a$$-wipe worthy memo! Remember not to leave a paper or electronic trail about the last piece of advice though cuz you never know which one of your actions may come back to bite you in the a$$ when you least expect it ;)
 
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