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Voter Registration and Selective Service Issues
- Thread starter immiknow
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Jackolantern
Registered Users (C)
Don't get me wrong, your opinion has been helpful for me and I appreciate it.
However, let me be a little bit more clear about this.
A)It's been said that if I'm registered in the Voter Registration, I need to unregister, even if I didn't register by myself. Fine, understood. When I get my turn to go to the interview, I'll have to show that I unregistered and never voted. If they ask me why I said "No" at the application, I guess I will have to mention that my father registered me. But if they don't ask me about the Voter Registration I'm not sure if I should or should not bring it up and mention it. Any other thoughts?
You don't need to mention your father. They are aware that people are registered without their knowledge. DMV clerks register people. People who work or volunteer for registration-promotion organizations also do it. Some colleges also do it. All you have to say is that you found out you were registered, and you were registered by somebody else because you know you didn't register yourself.
But it almost surely won't get to that point, for multiple reasons:
1. If you answer NO to that question, they usually don't check if you're registered (it happens, but it's not a routine procedure).
2. It happened so long ago that they probably already removed you from the voter's list even if you were placed on the list back then.
3. Your noncitizenship and lack of SSN at the time may have caused your registration to be discarded as soon as somebody reviewed the form, which would mean you were never on the voters list to begin with (however if they sent your father a voter registration card with your name on it, you'll know it wasn't discarded).
4. If you have unregistered yourself and they checked your registration, they probably won't see your name. They would have to do some deeper digging to find out your canceled registration.
5. If they do that deeper digging, and dig deep enough to get a copy of the form that was filled out to register you, they will see that there is no signature or it wasn't your signature (unless your father was good at forging your signature). In addition, if your father was smart enough to NOT say yes to the "I am a US citizen" on that form, that further mitigates the situation.
So all you need to do now is (1) Find out if you're registered to vote (2) Unregister if you're registered, and get a letter confirming that you didn't vote (3) Say and do nothing about it in the interview unless the interviewer claims that you registered.
B)It's been said that I was not required to register at Selective Service because of the nonimmigrant status, and I'm registered even if I didn't register by myself. And that there's nothing wrong with being registered. Fine, understood. However, since "there is" a registration, even if I didn't submit it and I wasn't required to register, and this registration can't be cancelled, my doub't is if they will see the answer as a lie, the fact that I wrote "No" or not provided the Selective Service Number which actually I don't have and never had in my hands.
You answered NO to the nonimmigrant question. That question then says, if you answered NO skip to question 34. That means if you answered NO to Q33, they expect you to leave your Selective Service number blank even if you actually registered.
I answered "no" to the question 33 regarding a selective service because I was registered by my father and I was under a visitor status. Should I contact the selective service to get any file number or any letter from them? Will I need any evidence that I was a lawful non-immigrant and I didn't need to register? or even if I didn't need to register but due to the fact that I am, do I need to get any evidence of that?. All these things are so complicate and sometimes it simply makes one crazy...
I answered "no" to the question 33 regarding a selective service because I was registered by my father and I was under a visitor status. Should I contact the selective service to get any file number or any letter from them? Will I need any evidence that I was a lawful non-immigrant and I didn't need to register? or even if I didn't need to register but due to the fact that I am, do I need to get any evidence of that?. All these things are so complicate and sometimes it simply makes one crazy...
Nothing particularly complicated here, you are blowing it in a much bigger issue than it is. You answer "No" to Q33 was correct since you were only present in the U.S. in a lawful nonimmigrant status prior to your 26th birthday and were not required to register. You do not need to provide any additional documentation regarding the answer to Q33; the info regarding your visitor visa status will be in your A-file already and the IO will have your A-file at the interview. (If you insist on losing sleep over it, you can check your Selective Service registration status online at https://www.sss.gov/RegVer/wfVerification.aspx)
So forget about the Selective Service thing - it is a complete non-issue - and worry about voter registration instead.
The voter registration issue is a serious problem and you need to take care of it immediately. Contact the voter registration office and find out if you were indeed registered; if yes, de-register immediately and request them to provide you with a letter stating two things:
1) That your voter registration has been cancelled
AND
2) That you have never actually voted.
Also, ask them for a copy of your voter registration card (they should have it on file) that was filled out by your father when he registered you. The fact that this form was not signed or was signed by somebody other than yourself may help you during the interview if the voter registration matter comes up.
Do not assume that because you did not register yourself that you do not have to de-register. You most certainly do; knowingly and willfully remaining on the voter registration rolls while not a U.S. citizen is illegal (even if you did not register yourself) and that fact alone may sink your N-400 application if it comes up at the interview. The fact that you knew that you were registered to vote and did nothing about it could very well be held against you by the IO.
Jackolantern
Registered Users (C)
I answered "no" to the question 33 regarding a selective service because I was registered by my father and I was under a visitor status. Should I contact the selective service to get any file number or any letter from them? Will I need any evidence that I was a lawful non-immigrant and I didn't need to register? or even if I didn't need to register but due to the fact that I am, do I need to get any evidence of that?. All these things are so complicate and sometimes it simply makes one crazy...
How many times do I need to repeat it? If you answered NO to the nonimmigrant question, you are to skip to question 34, without admitting or denying your registration for selective service.
In addition, you are now over 31, which is the age when they stop caring about your Selective Service registration. You won't be asked to prove your nonimmigrant status or your Selective Service details.