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A friend of mine (main applicant) and his wife (derivative applicant)got their greencards a couple of weeks back. This monday out of the blue his wife told him that she wanted to file for a divorce and proceeded to do so. It obviously left my friend both shell shocked and used!! He brought the subject up with today since he was visibly disturbed and I kinda asked him what was up. He asked me if he could get her greencard revoked since he felt betrayed by the whole thing. My answer to him was that I didn't think he could (Though I obviously wasn't very sure about it!) I would love to hear some inputs from our forum members on this subject if possible!
 
Nothing can be done about it.

Since this is an employed based petition, there are no conditions on the GC and nothing can be done about it.

Marriage based GC have conditions of continuation of marriage for a few years after GC issuance, and only by formally applying for the removal they are taken off. But that doesnt apply here.


Unique Problem???

I doubt it very much that this is a unique problem. I have heard similar cases before, and some much worse than the this which involved lawyers, house, bank accounts, and the whole nine yards. Legalization in US, which is very very difficult to come by these days, has attracted greed and curruption from established crime organizations all the way to individuals and relatives.

However, it saddens me deeply to hear a story like this.
 
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The fact is :
He got his Bachelor's status back, She lost her Masters but got her Green Card!!
Her green card cannot be revoked.
 
at least for this reason he should have got his GC faster

I think more than worrying about the past he should think of how he can get a good girl next time and more importantly how to bring her to US as quickly as possible. because after his GC approval getting married to a girl back home and then having her move here to US seems to be really tough. looking for a girl already in US may be a better idea whenever he gets over the past and starts thinking of a new beginning

and just a thought at least the lady did not continue to use him after her primary objective (of getting green card) was fullfilled. so he should count his blessings and move on to the expected "wellcome to USA" kind of problems. she couldnt have divorced him so clinically in his home country i am sure.

As someone said above this has been happening so frequently in the past that the only surprise is a guy (instead of a the usual GC holder girl) is at the receiving end of the "marriage for GC trade".
He can not revoke her GC the Lady has definitely consulted a good attorney well in advance. If your friend is lucky she wont demand part of his savings, furniture and house. hopefully she had a partner waiting in wings for divorce to be legal and final. its best to make a new beginning rather than waste energy in a battle which will enrich divorce lawyers and leave scars much deeper than a simpel betrayal.


please convey our best wishes to him and i am sure he will get the right person next time if he focuses on beauty of heart and wealth of good upbringing (easier said than done, i agree ) !!!

one of friends commented "GC salamat to Ladki Pachaas" i do not necessarily agree with this statement but it may put a smile on your friends face.

Olman
 
One of my friends ( she is a lady) did the same thing to her husband. Their marriage was anyway not going good, but she waited until she got her GC( she was a dependant on her husband), and immediately within a month , filed for divorce. Her husband is now planning to sue her for revokal of her GC, claiming that her whole intention of getting married to him, was to get her GC...though she is my friend..i really hope that the husband wins..
 
This is really sad to know that girls go so cheap. But I am sure there must be guys also of similar kinds.

No one can just look at superficial stuff and make a general opinion, may be the girls were badly hurt and felt as being used on their part also.

No one can know the truth but the victims.
 
GCfasttrack, sorry! to hear about your friend but your friend can definitly cancel his spouse greencard if he meets the following conditions

If he has married during I485 process and added his spouse directly on I485 and his spouse has entered USA on h4 visa ( NOT on h1b ) and if the marriage doesnot lasted for more than two year.

If your friend can prove the above all condition then suerly he can revoke spouse greencard, as BCIS is very strict about greencard fraud. It also depends on what kind of profession ( qualification ) does his spouse has. If she is a pharmacist or doctor or any prefession which is demand in USA and visa is difficult for that then definitly its a plus point for your friend.

Shah
 
I think 485Shah is right

Her green card can be revoked if it can be proved that her intent was to get the G.C. and file for divorce, i.e. the marriage was fraudulent. The case would involve testimonials and letters that can prove that the marriage was based on G.C. - proving that is easier if the marriage was arranged. Normally that would be a hard-to-prove and expensive proposition but in a post-9/11 world and with the BCIS cracking down on fraud, it is worth a shot. I would have ...


However, if the wife can prove physical and mental abuse or infidelity as grounds for divorce then she will win.
 
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Who are we to make judgements

Who knows what the real truth is. We are quick to make judgements and label the Lady as the greedy cruel cold person who used the dude, but the opposite of it may be the real truth.

As someone else suggested above, the dude should take a very good look at the relationship, what went wrong, what were his shortcomings, did he give all his best to the marriage. Its difficult to believe that the guy was perfect (even though i would like to believe so and take a plunge into the sea of my bubbling ego). I personally turned the story into the equivalent of an urban-legend by taken out of context the 3 sentense that described it.

Even though it takes only one to spoil a marriage, it does take two to make the marriage a success.

Its time for him to rejoice and reflect.
 
laborpain - You make some interesting points but I am sure you would agree that the decent thing would have been for her to bring the problems to the fore and if there were issues that couldn't be resolved go for a divorce gracefully with your conscience clear that you give it your best shot and too bad that things didn't work out. I think that is the least you owe to somebody you have lived with for 2 1/2 years of your life.

Fellows, eventually I don't think he is going to do anything about getting her greencard revoked....he is too nice a guy....I guess he probably feels hurt by the whole situation right now and feeling animosity in that situation is understandable. I will keep you guys updated if and when there are any developments. Thanks for all your replies.
 
welcome to a materialistic society

Thats assuming that she waited just to get the GC.:rolleyes:
 
Laborpain: The fault may be on either side and we may not know exactly what happened. But if she waits to get a greencard and file a divorce exactly two weeks later, thats cheekiness, cleverness and betrayal and hence not right. What a Golddigger she is..
I think the guy involved could take comfort in the fact that since she is initiating the divorce proceedings he may not have to worry much about Alimony or Childsupport and stuff.
 
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For the guy who wrote about 5 days bleeding blah blah bhal....you are right, some gal is gonna kick you at the right place someday coz of your attitude.
 
GCFast Jim carrey said Nice guys finish last

If your friend is a Nice Guy then he should know this

Nice guys finish last
they are called habitual losers
but atleast they finish the marathon.

some others get shot or get angina or cardiac arrest on the way
and if he is a nice guy i am sure he enjoyed the journey and learnt an inexpensive lesson and is still being set free by the lady. she must surely love him to be so kind. what if she had continued to use his niceness further.

And if she is indeed gold digger and back stabber etc i am sure she will soon meet her match over here.

If i was in his place i will make it very amicable, remain friends with her and offer to help her in future if she ever needed help.
No i am not Mahatma Gandhi or Mother Teresa.
She might have been forced to marry your friend by her parents for lots of reasosn we all can imagine. or she may be a victim of some blackmail right now or she might be doing it for someone she really loved and that guy wanted to use her to get to US and none of these possibilities are exclusive to films. She may need more help than your friend
Anyways if for 2 years he was happy with her either she must be a great actress or your friend too gullible in either case she deserves to be set free if she is not happy with the marriage.

i know many cases where GC has been a curse for people of marriageable age. wise people hide their permanent residence status while looking for a partner back home (or atleast keep it ambiguous).

Many guys/girls use GC as a bait to get partners with specs well beyond what they can expect without a GC. if some of these fish gobble the bait and scoot, can we blame the fish? Your friend may not be in this category but as they say " market is fouled up by unethical players so the ordinary investors are scared" applies to marriage market too.

if i were your friend i will use forgiveness as that will keep him positive and alert for the future. cut the losses and move on to more rewarding things. no point in getting stuck on a past mistake. when a door closes 100 doors open but we keep looking at the close door far too long.

i still feel bad about your friend. she shouldnt have spoiled his happiness of getting his GC within 2 weeks. this reminds me of a Gazal
Kabhi Kisiko Mukkammal Jahan nahi milta
kabhi Jameen to Kabhi Asama Nahi milta (forgive me for any errors in the words as i do not know urdu)

may be a sobering lesson for everyone waiting for the approval to happen ASAP !
is that the reason you posted this here GCFasttrack?
just kidding!

Adios

Olman
 
I kind of looked at this differently...

I read all the above comments and feel like expressing some of my opinion.

To me, marriage is a gambling in the first place. You either win or lose but being an educated person please don’t complain about the other person, which only makes you look more like a loser. If you think you lose and get hurt lick at your wounds when there is no one around. I never believe in marriage there is clear winner or loser. Everybody gives out something in order to get something back in return. Yes I am a marriage non-believer and a forever love non-believer. I remember there is a famous word from British – "I only laugh when I feel pain".

Don’t mean to offense anyone. Just execute my free speech right. Good luck to everyone.
 
materialistic

After reading this, I remembered the song in one of Amitabh's movies "Trishul" which goes like this "Mohabat bade kaam ki cheez hai.........."

Tell your friend good riddance of bad...........whatever
 
Let's bury this thread here. We are losing our focus. If some one seriously wants to revoke his wife's GC, then he should talk to lawyer.
 
In my view problem could be for both side:

Ladu could be a silent sufferer and was waiting patiently for GC. Because she cannot go back and was totally at the mercy of hubby during the period.

On the other hand, she could be crook right from the beginning.
( But PERSONALLY I see this as less possibility. Becasue though she MIGHT not liked the marriage, usually she should start liking the hubby during this painful period of settlement in US, where in she experiences his care of her ).
 
Just an other perspective!

I don't understand why that guy was so dumb that he couldn't figure it out his wife's intent.

I had a friend who had the same situation, but he was smart enough to send her wife back to india and revoked her GC process in-between and never called her back and notified INS about it.
 
Dumb is not that person...
Dumb is your friends wife.. who could not maintain the secrecy of her cruel intention ( if at all there is one ) and got it revealed.

So far there is no mechanism in the world which can read other persons mind :D:D
 
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