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windywd

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I have some time today so I won't mind typing a little more.

Here is some personal advice for you. I remember you said you lied to speak to an office in NSC. Well, it is a small one, no one would care, probably.

But my point is, don't lie to them! For those who probably lied to INS for their asylum, don't lie to them again!

So, INS doesn't pay much attention to people going back to their home country. In theory, at the entry port, they can put you in jail if your RTD turns out to be blank or there is no valid visa, since 90% of the chance you went home. BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THAT.

Now, there are still many cases which involve revoking asylum status, or RP, even citizenship as a result of asylum. Why?

Basic assumption is: if you lie about something, you must have lied about anything else, i.e. your own asylum.

Cases I know from my attorney are:

A guy put down his girlfriend as his wife in I-730, trying to bring her here. Consulate verified the marriage cer. is fake.

A guy went home after citizenship and had marriage of convenience with another woman. Consulate doesn't believe it is a bona fide marriage.

An Iraq asylee joins a believed-to-be anti-goverment Islamic group in U.S.

A woman lived overseas for a year and claimed only 8 months in citizensihp.

........

My point is from the moment you are granted asylum, do not lie or lie again. This is going to be a dangerous move. Going back home probably is not as bad as lying.

Want: sorry, I just want to share some info and give my point. You will be ok, and no one would notice.
 
windywd said:
I have some time today so I won't mind typing a little more.

Here is some personal advice for you. I remember you said you lied to speak to an office in NSC. Well, it is a small one, no one would care, probably.

But my point is, don't lie to them! For those who probably lied to INS for their asylum, don't lie to them again!

So, INS doesn't pay much attention to people going back to their home country. In theory, at the entry port, they can put you in jail if your RTD turns out to be blank or there is no valid visa, since 90% of the chance you went home. BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THAT.

Now, there are still many cases which involve revoking asylum status, or RP, even citizenship as a result of asylum. Why?

Basic assumption is: if you lie about something, you must have lied about anything else, i.e. your own asylum.

Cases I know from my attorney are:

A guy put down his girlfriend as his wife in I-730, trying to bring her here. Consulate verified the marriage cer. is fake.

A guy went home after citizenship and had marriage of convenience with another woman. Consulate doesn't believe it is a bona fide marriage.

An Iraq asylee joins a believed-to-be anti-goverment Islamic group in U.S.

A woman lived overseas for a year and claimed only 8 months in citizensihp.

........

My point is from the moment you are granted asylum, do not lie or lie again. This is going to be a dangerous move. Going back home probably is not as bad as lying.

Want: sorry, I just want to share some info and give my point. You will be ok, and no one would notice.

Hi Wind,

You don't have to worry about him. I believe he is sophisticated enought to fool around NSC. He can jump ahead of doing the BIO too. He doesn't care.

William
 
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windywd said:
I have some time today so I won't mind typing a little more.

Here is some personal advice for you. I remember you said you lied to speak to an office in NSC. Well, it is a small one, no one would care, probably.

But my point is, don't lie to them! For those who probably lied to INS for their asylum, don't lie to them again!

So, INS doesn't pay much attention to people going back to their home country. In theory, at the entry port, they can put you in jail if your RTD turns out to be blank or there is no valid visa, since 90% of the chance you went home. BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THAT.

Now, there are still many cases which involve revoking asylum status, or RP, even citizenship as a result of asylum. Why?

Basic assumption is: if you lie about something, you must have lied about anything else, i.e. your own asylum.

Cases I know from my attorney are:

A guy put down his girlfriend as his wife in I-730, trying to bring her here. Consulate verified the marriage cer. is fake.

A guy went home after citizenship and had marriage of convenience with another woman. Consulate doesn't believe it is a bona fide marriage.

An Iraq asylee joins a believed-to-be anti-goverment Islamic group in U.S.

A woman lived overseas for a year and claimed only 8 months in citizensihp.

........

My point is from the moment you are granted asylum, do not lie or lie again. This is going to be a dangerous move. Going back home probably is not as bad as lying.

Want: sorry, I just want to share some info and give my point. You will be ok, and no one would notice.

You know what don't talk BS OK? STop assuming things. PunjabiMunda called USCIS and said that he wanted to know if his address was correct or not? THIS IS NOT A LIE TO hurt anyone..this is a LIE TO know about your case.

USCIS plays games with us..they dont give us the status of our cases..IF they can lie that they are still processign 12/99 cases..we have the right to KNOW what the hell is happening..

And you have no right to judge what I said on my asylum or went back home..BTW i was the one who said a person should be hanged if he/she goes back to his/her home country..

I wish you were in a position where you had no clue if BIO was sent to you or not..if they sent it and your application gets abandoned...do u really want that to happen to you?

DIDN"T you put in another post that USCIS says its the applicants responsiblity to keep the USCIS up to date and make appointments etc..? What the hell are you bitching about then?
 
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no one except you. be civil and discuss. every time there is discussion, william comes to spoil the day. your advice might be helpful only if you can change your attitude and tone.
 
Calm down, man.

I am not judging anybody. Like I just said, going back "home" country does not seem to trigger anything, yet. but if they found out you lied about something else, then that is a different story.

Just be careful and consistent, that is all.

For my cousin, he did receive "intent-to-denial" letter, stating there is a discrepancy between his biographies about his monther's birthplace. Yeah, right. Who is going to hide about that? But they did notice. After his panic response of sending them everything. He is ok now.
 
qsheba said:
no one except you. be civil and discuss. every time there is discussion, william comes to spoil the day. your advice might be helpful only if you can change your attitude and tone.

Well said.
 
Continue with my previous post.

Sometimes it is not even lying. It is like, ok, I forgot, just put something in the form...

That could be pretty bad.

Sorry, you got offended, but I never mean that you are lying. To want and anyone else.
 
windywd said:
Continue with my previous post.

Sometimes it is not even lying. It is like, ok, I forgot, just put something in the form...

That could be pretty bad.

Sorry, you got offended, but I never mean that you are lying. To want and anyone else.

Windywd, Its ok. I maybe took it wrong way. I also apologize.
 
qsheba said:
no one except you. be civil and discuss. every time there is discussion, william comes to spoil the day. your advice might be helpful only if you can change your attitude and tone.


Hi Q,

I don't need your P's guidance. You provide wrong signals to the public. We need helpful and relevant information here, so what else do you want to present.

William
 
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windywd said:
So, INS doesn't pay much attention to people going back to their home country. In theory, at the entry port, they can put you in jail if your RTD turns out to be blank or there is no valid visa, since 90% of the chance you went home. BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THAT.


No they can't. In that case they usually ask for NP to verify the trip info (it happened to me since I used NP for VISA twice). Also I heard that sometimes they don't ask for NP and just stamp RTD. In order for USCIS to arrest somebody for fraud they have to have a proof (u r not guilty untill it's proven). In USA person (any) can not be arrested without proof (exc. terrorism and anything related to it).
 
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