Theory on Name Check delay

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billlonestar

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Hi All,

I have just had a chat with some of my friends who are on the same boat, waiting for NC to clear. It seems like the trend is that the people with shorter history IN the US get cleared for NC much fatster. Several new graduates I know, got their Green Card within two years, everything together. I have been in the US for several years, and changed four jobs (post-doc included). I stuck for NC for more than a year now. Anyone likes to shed some light?

Bill
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EB1,
I-485 RD 07/26/2006.
 
I don't think there is any logical reasoning behind people getting NC cleared if they have a shorter stay, but then again there is no logic nor reason to whatever USCIS does anyway.

I think it has more to do with a combination of the following factors:

1. Country of origin.
People from the middle east and the subcontinent, or any country with a majority of suspect people.

2. Common names.
People from Asia (China and the subcontinent) have very common names and comprise the majority of the applicants.

3. Marital status.
Single persons have thinner files and will be processed quicker and their NC submitted quicker than people with dependents and hence thicker files and more work for IO.

I could be wrong but this is what I think. One exception to all the above is people from Latin America, they have very common names, apply in great numbers, and usually have greater number of family members, but you never hear of them getting stuck in NC. The only difference I see is that they are not from a certain part of the world.
 
Nope

I am in the US for 8 + years by now.
I do not think folks with shorter history get the NC cleared.
I think it's luck + political support from local folks in power.


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billlonest ar;1808141 said:
Hi All,

I have just had a chat with some of my friends who are on the same boat, waiting for NC to clear. It seems like the trend is that the people with shorter history IN the US get cleared for NC much fatster. Several new graduates I know, got their Green Card within two years, everything together. I have been in the US for several years, and changed four jobs (post-doc included). I stuck for NC for more than a year now. Anyone likes to shed some light?

Bill
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EB1,
I-485 RD 07/26/2006.
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billlonestar said:
Hi All,

I have just had a chat with some of my friends who are on the same boat, waiting for NC to clear. It seems like the trend is that the people with shorter history IN the US get cleared for NC much fatster. Several new graduates I know, got their Green Card within two years, everything together. I have been in the US for several years, and changed four jobs (post-doc included). I stuck for NC for more than a year now. Anyone likes to shed some light?

Bill
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EB1,
I-485 RD 07/26/2006.
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There may be some truth to it. A person gets stuck in NC when his/her NC search generates a hit in reference files. Reference files do not necesserely list bad people, but contain all records relevant to FBI activies. E.g. if you were a witness of crime, or was a crime victim yourself, then your name may end up in FBI reference files. So the longer you stay in the US, the more likely a possibility of your name making its way to FBI ref. files for some innocent reasons. Then, once your NC gets a hit, it's put aside for a manual retrival of a relevant reference file, and this is when NC black hole hell starts: too few unmotivated clerks are manually processing too many NC hits.

There is also another component to the NC backlog, and this is USCIS itself. Once FBI retrives a refence file with a hit, it sends results to USCIS (to fraud detection unit in DC), it's done with your namecheck as far as they are concerned, and now it's up to USCIS to decide what to do with the information they got from the FBI. So that's why you see people reporting their NC cleared by the FBI, but USICS still tells them that background checks are pending.
 
billlonestar said:
Hi All,

I have just had a chat with some of my friends who are on the same boat, waiting for NC to clear. It seems like the trend is that the people with shorter history IN the US get cleared for NC much fatster. Several new graduates I know, got their Green Card within two years, everything together. I have been in the US for several years, and changed four jobs (post-doc included). I stuck for NC for more than a year now. Anyone likes to shed some light?

Bill
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EB1,
I-485 RD 07/26/2006.
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I too subscribe to this idea. I was here for 8 years before I decided to apply for gc and I'm stuck in NC for more than a year. I dont have any criminal/civil record. There is nothing we can do about it. I've exhausted all the usual channels of enquiry with no result. My name is not common in India (for that matter whole world) but still I'm stuck.
 
I'm also in US for the last 7 years and am sailing on the same boat.

billlonestar said:
Hi All,

I have just had a chat with some of my friends who are on the same boat, waiting for NC to clear. It seems like the trend is that the people with shorter history IN the US get cleared for NC much fatster. Several new graduates I know, got their Green Card within two years, everything together. I have been in the US for several years, and changed four jobs (post-doc included). I stuck for NC for more than a year now. Anyone likes to shed some light?

Bill
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EB1,
I-485 RD 07/26/2006.
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Hypocrites

Well said GCLingam, you are absolutely fantastic. All the stories that they telling about Main Files, Reference Files, Hits they are all big BS. All they wanted is stop people from certain parts of the world. That is the bottom line.

GCLingum said:
I don't think there is any logical reasoning behind people getting NC cleared if they have a shorter stay, but then again there is no logic nor reason to whatever USCIS does anyway.

I think it has more to do with a combination of the following factors:

1. Country of origin.
People from the middle east and the subcontinent, or any country with a majority of suspect people.

2. Common names.
People from Asia (China and the subcontinent) have very common names and comprise the majority of the applicants.

3. Marital status.
Single persons have thinner files and will be processed quicker and their NC submitted quicker than people with dependents and hence thicker files and more work for IO.

I could be wrong but this is what I think. One exception to all the above is people from Latin America, they have very common names, apply in great numbers, and usually have greater number of family members, but you never hear of them getting stuck in NC. The only difference I see is that they are not from a certain part of the world.
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Your case is similar to one of my cases. Wrote to FL, Senator, C'man, USCIS O'man. FL enquiry yielded FBI to respond that my nC for both my my cases had been cleared. NIW cleared withing a week and EB-1A EOA TSC cleared in spet 2007 after its submisison in March 2007. Not bad, but I could have gotten approved if they would have done it earlier. Now my 485 is not yet in TSC 485 processing dates so stuck even wehn everythign is ready and case ready to be approved.

gslvc1 said:
I too subscribe to this idea. I was here for 8 years before I decided to apply for gc and I'm stuck in NC for more than a year. I dont have any criminal/civil record. There is nothing we can do about it. I've exhausted all the usual channels of enquiry with no result. My name is not common in India (for that matter whole world) but still I'm stuck.
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The "DELAY" is unreasonable, unresolved "HITS" after years??

The "HITS" should be given priority "to resolve" as soon as possible to achieve homeland/national security goal.
 
I don't think your time in US has any bearing on the NC.
Consider this:
Your name is XYZ (First = X, Middle = Y, Last = Z). DOB = 1/1/1970. You came to the US in 1/1/2007. No criminal activity. Applied 485 on 8/1/2007 when everyone was current.

1) Another person with the same name XYZ. DOB = 1/1/1969 or 70 or 71 (basically in your age range). Came to US in 1/1/2000. No criminal background, but was witness to another case and hence has a FBI entry.

2) Another person with the same or similar name XaYZ. A US citizen. Has criminal background.

I would think that in both of these cases, your name will come up as a hit even if you were in the US only for the last 6 months.
(Unless they also look at the time period of your stay in the US and the date/time when the #1 and #2 had FBI history.)
 
Age may also be an issue. Some friends posted response letters from FBI stating that they need to go back to their birth country to check records, which will take much longer time.
 
today I talked local office IO.

They said Namecheck requests send from October onwards will be cleared in 90 days !!!
 
myitneeds said:
today I talked local office IO.

They said Namecheck requests send from October onwards will be cleared in 90 days !!!
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Does it mean, it will onlly work for new filers?

Should I raise my case status enquiry, as my name check is pending from more than 15 months.

Thank you!
 
In US for 7+ years

Stuck in name check for the past 15 months.
One time my car was broken into and i complained to police. So i am victim of a crime and am in FBI reference list ?
 
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