Should US eliminate L1 visas ?
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I think L1 visa is a threat not only to US citizens but also to H1B holders.
It is difficult to compete with L1 candidates because their hourly rate can be as low as 20 $ to 30 $ per hour. They are burden to US economy because they don’t have to pay any taxes. They get 50 to 100 per day so they hardly spend. They cannot even have their own apartment and have to share it with others. HB1 visa holder gives at least 50 % income (including taxes) back to the economy.
It is difficult to compete with L1 candidates because their hourly rate can be as low as 20 $ to 30 $ per hour. They are burden to US economy because they don’t have to pay any taxes. They get 50 to 100 per day so they hardly spend. They cannot even have their own apartment and have to share it with others. HB1 visa holder gives at least 50 % income (including taxes) back to the economy.
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nnarayanus
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>>It is difficult to compete with L1 candidates because their hourly rate can be as low as 20 $ to 30 $ per hour. They get 50 to 100 per day so they hardly spend. They cannot even have their own apartment and have to share it with others. HB1 visa holder gives at least 50 % income (including taxes) back to the economy.<<
Not true, I know even H1 guys working for that kind of rate. I know many companies bring people in H1 and pay them on per dime basis. Atleast L1 guys work for some international company (Mostly Indian companies) by which they remit some money back to India, which eventually improves India's economy.
>>They are burden to US economy because they don’t have to pay any taxes.<<
Who told you ? Everyone who is earning in US must pay taxes, including L1 Visa holders. If you know someone who is not paying taxes for their income, it is illegal
Not true, I know even H1 guys working for that kind of rate. I know many companies bring people in H1 and pay them on per dime basis. Atleast L1 guys work for some international company (Mostly Indian companies) by which they remit some money back to India, which eventually improves India's economy.
>>They are burden to US economy because they don’t have to pay any taxes.<<
Who told you ? Everyone who is earning in US must pay taxes, including L1 Visa holders. If you know someone who is not paying taxes for their income, it is illegal
nnarayanus
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Yes Sir,
On L-1 A Visa
On L-1 A Visa
US should ban L1 and H1. They should immediately suspend all the GreenCard processing and send every one of us (except those approved) back to our countries(including me). But there is one condition. They must outsource all their jobs 
. Then i will be happily working in India (free of any racial attack worries). Recently, attacks on Indians are on the rise in USA.
. Then i will be happily working in India (free of any racial attack worries). Recently, attacks on Indians are on the rise in USA.nnarayanus
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Very simple question
If L1 Visa holders are not allowed work at client site, they will not work at client site, period.
What the consulting firm will do is their business decision. We don't have to poke our nose onto that.
What the person in L1 Visa will do is upto him. What worst case they will go back to India. It's not end of life.
What if US eliminates H1 Visa ? The same applicable for L1
If L1 Visa holders are not allowed work at client site, they will not work at client site, period.
What the consulting firm will do is their business decision. We don't have to poke our nose onto that.
What the person in L1 Visa will do is upto him. What worst case they will go back to India. It's not end of life.
What if US eliminates H1 Visa ? The same applicable for L1
GCSeekerInd
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What is ur obsession with L1 candidates?
nnarayanus
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>>Do L1 candidates live in a shared appartment ?
Can they afford to have families in US ?
Can they afford to spend money on say PC at home with modem connection or car etc ? <<
It all depends on their salary and their willingness to spend. I think no one would be willing live on a long term on a shared apartment, without family and PC, cable modem etc.,
But personally my answer to the above 3 questions are "Yes". I live in my own apartment with my wife, daughter and with bunch of servers, laptop and yes with a Cable modem too.
Can they afford to have families in US ?
Can they afford to spend money on say PC at home with modem connection or car etc ? <<
It all depends on their salary and their willingness to spend. I think no one would be willing live on a long term on a shared apartment, without family and PC, cable modem etc.,
But personally my answer to the above 3 questions are "Yes". I live in my own apartment with my wife, daughter and with bunch of servers, laptop and yes with a Cable modem too.
clarifications
nnarayanus
you said you are paying tax for your income. Why so many newspaper, media are saying that L1B visa holders do not pay tax for their income? I saw advertisments from anti immigration group in a newspaper mentioning that L1B holders do not pay tax but their childern go to school paid by tax payer money?
nnarayanus
you said you are paying tax for your income. Why so many newspaper, media are saying that L1B visa holders do not pay tax for their income? I saw advertisments from anti immigration group in a newspaper mentioning that L1B holders do not pay tax but their childern go to school paid by tax payer money?
nnarayanus
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gcwarrior,
Honestly, I don't know
All I know is any person working in US should have a social security number and they should make social security and other tax contributions to the Government.
I also heard some H1 guys are paid on per dime basis, they too don't pay any kind of taxes.
Please send the link where you see such infomation, so that I am aware of that.
Honestly, I don't know
All I know is any person working in US should have a social security number and they should make social security and other tax contributions to the Government.
I also heard some H1 guys are paid on per dime basis, they too don't pay any kind of taxes.
Please send the link where you see such infomation, so that I am aware of that.
Its all relative!
Nothing should be eliminated! Its more political now than ever! The visa rules may be modified. This country is based on capitalism where money matters for companies.
Companies will cut costs by choosing the cheapest service provider. Whether its L1, H1, GC or whatever! During this layoff period, how many have come across companies that laid off and recruited for the same position (with less salary and benefits)?
Congressmen worried about re-election are those who oppose! they never cared about it when dotcom was bustling! why now? Didn't they anticipate the drawbacks of L1 during recession (isn't their job to think of all possibilities before passing a bill?). Nothing else!
Why do we want to stop fellow Indians from coming to US and earn some money? Individuals form the nation, if individuals get rich, the nation will eventually!
Nothing should be eliminated! Its more political now than ever! The visa rules may be modified. This country is based on capitalism where money matters for companies.
Companies will cut costs by choosing the cheapest service provider. Whether its L1, H1, GC or whatever! During this layoff period, how many have come across companies that laid off and recruited for the same position (with less salary and benefits)?
Congressmen worried about re-election are those who oppose! they never cared about it when dotcom was bustling! why now? Didn't they anticipate the drawbacks of L1 during recession (isn't their job to think of all possibilities before passing a bill?). Nothing else!
Why do we want to stop fellow Indians from coming to US and earn some money? Individuals form the nation, if individuals get rich, the nation will eventually!
the web site is http://www.nomoreh1b.com
patienceGC
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We shouldnt be
talking about not allowing other people from coming into this country to have a better life. I think its ironic that people who come here on work visas talk about cutting other people off just because their job might be in jeopardy. They are worse than the American citizens who want to abolish H1 and other visas. You came here to work and might have replaced a citizen (more likely filled a void). Now if another worker can replace you... thats your fate. If you do ur job well you shouldnt have to worry. If I get replaced by another H1b who can do the same work for less, i'd feel bad but i still wouldnt go out and complain about H1s!
I think ASN is either getting his @$$ kicked by L1s or is plain jealous that they here.
talking about not allowing other people from coming into this country to have a better life. I think its ironic that people who come here on work visas talk about cutting other people off just because their job might be in jeopardy. They are worse than the American citizens who want to abolish H1 and other visas. You came here to work and might have replaced a citizen (more likely filled a void). Now if another worker can replace you... thats your fate. If you do ur job well you shouldnt have to worry. If I get replaced by another H1b who can do the same work for less, i'd feel bad but i still wouldnt go out and complain about H1s!
I think ASN is either getting his @$$ kicked by L1s or is plain jealous that they here.
ZeusChicago
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One has to pay Taxes on L1 & H1 visa
I have been on both H1B, L1A and B1. Unless the companies/individuals violate the law, one has to pay taxes either you are on H1B or L1A. Per Diem is paid only while your are on B1 visa.
However when you come on H1B or L1A visa, the company may pay an allowance (in addition to the taxable salary) as settling-in expenses (hotel stay, car rental and aprtment search expenses). Some companies may not base this on actuals (I think this is legal because IRS does not require reciepts for certain expenses that are under certain amount).
Only other per-diem I can think of is if an h1B or L1A is travelling on business to a location other than thier base location, you are paid for hotel, travel and food expenses. These are based on actuals excepting that some companies may not require employees to show reciepts for food (it is more of administrative work than it is worth). If this is illegal, then even green card holders & american citizens are also commiting the same fraud (IRS) H1B or L1a is.
I have been on both H1B, L1A and B1. Unless the companies/individuals violate the law, one has to pay taxes either you are on H1B or L1A. Per Diem is paid only while your are on B1 visa.
However when you come on H1B or L1A visa, the company may pay an allowance (in addition to the taxable salary) as settling-in expenses (hotel stay, car rental and aprtment search expenses). Some companies may not base this on actuals (I think this is legal because IRS does not require reciepts for certain expenses that are under certain amount).
Only other per-diem I can think of is if an h1B or L1A is travelling on business to a location other than thier base location, you are paid for hotel, travel and food expenses. These are based on actuals excepting that some companies may not require employees to show reciepts for food (it is more of administrative work than it is worth). If this is illegal, then even green card holders & american citizens are also commiting the same fraud (IRS) H1B or L1a is.