Should I apply for Canadian citizenship first ?

[sadasylee]

Hello, Long time no see, Comrades.

Now I am holding both Canadian green card and US green card via asylum. Please see my signature for the dateline.

My question:
If I become a Canadian citizen, will my US citizenship application be denied when I am qualified to apply in 2009? In other words, should I apply for Canadian citizenship first?

Thank you!

 

[Freedom1963]

Hello Sadasylee.

If you were able to maintance both permanent residency and eligible to obtain Canadian Citizenship you can do that and does not effect the your immigration status in USA.

But in order to be clear and make sure you need to tell us how did you get the both permanent resideny.Actually the question is if you get your GC through asylum I am not sure what will happens on USA side.

Other things if you get USA citizenship first and after if you obtain ather countries citizenship by applying your USA citizenship status will be revoked right away.

As a result...If you are asylee in USA please be wawre and make sure.If you are asylee in Canada and you can do that right away.

I was on the same boat with you.But I have withdrawn my Canadian PR .

Regards.

 

[Freedom1963]

Hi Sadasylee.

There is one more thing I have tell to you.If you get USA GC after your Canadian PR I think you are not eligible to obtain Canadian Citizenship.

(I have read on one of the immigration forum,don't remember where)

Regards.

 

[Exilado99]

Hello, Long time no see, Comrades.

Now I am holding both Canadian green card and US green card via asylum. Please see my signature for the dateline.

My question:
If I become a Canadian citizen, will my US citizenship application be denied when I am qualified to apply in 2009? In other words, should I apply for Canadian citizenship first?

Thank you!

Do you really need all those citizenships? For what??? Sorry but I am just curious.
I just hope you will not end up in trouble my man. Good luck with your journey.

 

[wantmygcnow]

Hello, Long time no see, Comrades.

Now I am holding both Canadian green card and US green card via asylum. Please see my signature for the dateline.

My question:
If I become a Canadian citizen, will my US citizenship application be denied when I am qualified to apply in 2009? In other words, should I apply for Canadian citizenship first?

Thank you!

You can apply for canadian citizenship but you have to meet their requirements. If you meet their requirements, all the power to you. U.S green card is not based on your canadian citizenship so it does not matter to US Immigration.

Consult a lawyer but as another person pointed out, what is your point? If I was you and my priority was U.S.A. I would get U.S Citizenship first and if possible get the canadian.. IF you are doing this to travel freely, you still have to use your NP+GC to enter U.S because Canadians are non-residents & even though they dont fill I-94, they are not legally allowed to stay for more than 90 days.

 

[wantmygcnow]

Be careful. Obtaining residency in a country after you obtain us permanent residency would lead us authorities to conclude that you have abandoned your greencard.

Also, how could you obtrain Canadian citizenship while maintaing greencard?

US laws allows you to maintain your GC by staying out of the country at most 6 months and using a Rentry Permit to come back. And you have to be a resident for 18 months out of 5 years to qualify.

So it can be done. You can maintain both PRs and its possible. It is also not UNLAWFUL.

 

[Lazerthegreat]

US laws allows you to maintain your GC by staying out of the country at most 6 months and using a Rentry Permit to come back. And you have to be a resident for 18 months out of 5 years to qualify.

So it can be done. You can maintain both PRs and its possible. It is also not UNLAWFUL.

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want! I have to disagree with this. Immigration matters are somewhat looked at intent basis too. US immigration law "dictates" that when you become a resident, you are expected to have strong ties with USA and your intent should to settle down here. But if you are mechanically trying to uphold your GC status just by showing up here once every 6 months, you could get into trouble. Believe me when border agents ask you "how long did you stay outside" basically they are trying to sniff the same thing I am talking about.

 

[wantmygcnow]

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want! I have to disagree with this. Immigration matters are somewhat looked at intent basis too. US immigration law "dictates" that when you become a resident, you are expected to have strong ties with USA and your intent should to settle down here. But if you are mechanically trying to uphold your GC status just by showing up here once every 6 months, you could get into trouble. Believe me when border agents ask you "how long did you stay outside" basically they are trying to sniff the same thing I am talking about.

Lazer, I totally agree what you are saying. My point wasn't that its possible, my point was that it can be done. I know a few of H-1 friends who applied for canadian PR's when their status were in limbo & they got both PRs approved eventually.

Times have changed so maybe its tough now but it can be done if you do not care that they will take your GC away from you.

 

[ayyubov]

I though with GC you can leave US for no more than a year and come back once in a year in order to maintain the status. Isn't that true?

 

[sadasylee]

For freedom of course. I want to get rid of my current citizenship AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I don't want to wait 3~4 more years.

I do not feel entirely safe as long as I still hold my current damned citizenship.

Understand now, my friend?

Do you really need all those citizenships? For what??? Sorry but I am just curious.
I just hope you will not end up in trouble my man. Good luck with your journey.

 

[sadasylee]

How have you been doing, wantmygcnow? Very nice to see you here again.

You know the game. I am legal in both sides without cheating.

5/7 time I am in US and 2/7 time I am in Canada.

Both sides know my status and have official records for it.

US laws allows you to maintain your GC by staying out of the country at most 6 months and using a Rentry Permit to come back. And you have to be a resident for 18 months out of 5 years to qualify.

So it can be done. You can maintain both PRs and its possible. It is also not UNLAWFUL.

 

[sadasylee]

I got my Canadian green card in 1998 based on tech immigration and US green card in 2005 based on asylum.

USCIS has held a record that I have been a Canadian resident, but it approved my I-485 application based on asylum anyway last year.

I am afraid that citizenship application may be another story.

I can't find the law but I had looked it up one day. Obtaining citizenship in another country or permanent residency after you receive the greencard was one of those things which would make uscis/poe look very hard at whether you abandoned your greencard.

It is different if you obtain permanent residency in another country before you get greencard.

 

[wantmygcnow]

For freedom of course. I want to get rid of my current citizenship AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I don't want to wait 3~4 more years.

I do not feel entirely safe as long as I still hold my current damned citizenship.

Understand now, my friend?

Sadasylee, I think you should think about your priorities. I know how you feel of being safe and let me tell you, I am also from a "sthan" country so I know your pain.

However, I think U.S Citizenship is worth more than a Canadian citizenship knowing that you are in tech field. If you become a U.S Citizen and give up your Canadian PR, and you are tech person, you could make upwards of 250k if get the security clearances etc eventually.

So just to be safe for 2-3 years, you may lose a lifetime of advancements in my opinion. Not that CAnada is different but U.S.A historically is the best place for High-Tech employees.

Think what you want to do. I think you should go for USC & not risk it.

 

[Exilado99]

Sadasylee, I think you should think about your priorities. I know how you feel of being safe and let me tell you, I am also from a "sthan" country so I know your pain.

However, I think U.S Citizenship is worth more than a Canadian citizenship knowing that you are in tech field. If you become a U.S Citizen and give up your Canadian PR, and you are tech person, you could make upwards of 250k if get the security clearances etc eventually.

So just to be safe for 2-3 years, you may lose a lifetime of advancements in my opinion. Not that CAnada is different but U.S.A historically is the best place for High-Tech employees.

Think what you want to do. I think you should go for USC & not risk it.

That's what I thought!!!

 

[jubilee]

your strong desire to change your citizenship may complicate your life.
I like to mention two point of view here:
* the fact that you cross the north border every six months is too risky..one day your luck gonna run out .. remember if the officer found out about your Canadian residency at the port of entry ,he may confiscate your Green card and place you under removal proceeding .
*place of birth still major identification element ...even after your naturalization.
best decision :surrender your Canadian Green card and work on US citizenship.
Good luck.

 

[windywd]

I got my Canadian green card in 1998 based on tech immigration and US green card in 2005 based on asylum.

USCIS has held a record that I have been a Canadian resident, but it approved my I-485 application based on asylum anyway last year.

I am afraid that citizenship application may be another story.

I am in the same situation. Now, I have both PR and don't have any issue regarding my Canadian PR.

What to do next is your choice. When my Canadian PR was approved, CAD = 0.60 USD, now it is 0.88. The 45% increase on its currency alone could make your living standard over there high enough to compensate any negatives. Canada is a peaceful country with low crimes; your chance of being shot or being target by terrorist is much smaller. I was thinking of moving to Canada until my girlfriend objected for personal reasons.

 

[Lazerthegreat]

I am in the same situation. Now, I have both PR and don't have any issue regarding my Canadian PR.

What to do next is your choice. When my Canadian PR was approved, CAD = 0.60 USD, now it is 0.88. The 45% increase on its currency alone could make your living standard over there high enough to compensate any negatives. Canada is a peaceful country with low crimes; your chance of being shot or being target by terrorist is much smaller. I was thinking of moving to Canada until my girlfriend objected for personal reasons.

Living in Canada or USA is that of a personal choice. But obviously opportunity is lot more in USA for a long term thinker.

 

[Freedom1963]

Hello Everyone.

I am an political asylum since October 10 th,2002.I have common law partner that are living together more then one years.

If I apply for Canadian PR I am eligible and does not take to much time.

My intent is to live in USA but if I run business at the both country I would like to avoid all of the permit works.

My question are;

1-If I apply Canadian PR is there any restriction in term of the USA immigration law and what is the best time for me to apply.I mean befoere to get green card,after to get green card .

2-If I get Canadian PR as long as I live with one canadian I dont have any problem to meet residency requirement.

Does these days can count towards to Canadian citizenship?Other mean may I be eligible for Canadian citizenship when I live out side of the Country?

Thanks.

 

[windywd]

Living in Canada or USA is that of a personal choice. But obviously opportunity is lot more in USA for a long term thinker.

Maybe, but in under Bush. I am counting the number of days he remains there.

 

[faysal]

Hello Everyone.

I am an political asylum since October 10 th,2002.I have common law partner that are living together more then one years.

If I apply for Canadian PR I am eligible and does not take to much time.

My intent is to live in USA but if I run business at the both country I would like to avoid all of the permit works.

My question are;

1-If I apply Canadian PR is there any restriction in term of the USA immigration law and what is the best time for me to apply.I mean befoere to get green card,after to get green card .

2-If I get Canadian PR as long as I live with one canadian I dont have any problem to meet residency requirement.

Does these days can count towards to Canadian citizenship?Other mean may I be eligible for Canadian citizenship when I live out side of the Country?

Thanks.

I don't really know its details but I have seen individuals with both American Citizen and Canadian greencard. And by law the US accepts Canadian Greencard, but not double citizenship. Also, you need to declare that in your immigration forms. I have seen individuals who aquired American citizenship and Canadian Citizenship. These individuals were not arrested but you given the choice to abandon one of the citizenships.

therefore, I think it is possible for an individual to have Canadian and American permanent residency legally. and It is good thing. I don't know about their details...good luck