Just to make sure: "denial" means that you get your interview and you are told while there that you are not eligible right? If I submit my 122/230 but then I get no visa because numbers are exhausted (and no interview) that is not considered denial right? But then I am someone who intends to immigrate, was never refused a visa but still cannot immigrate...weird!Interestingly a denial of a DV for VWP nationals is expressly told that they have to list it as a visa denial under ESTA though - as we saw in the other thread.