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lake65

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My Aunt had citizenship interview two weeks ago. She passed the Civics/History/Gov test but could not do reading and writing. The IO said she will get another Interview letter within 45 days and then she will have to re-appear for the interview. he also handed her a letter marked to re-take reading and writing test. on the same letter civics test section is un-marked. Does that mean at the second interview she has to take only reading and writing test?

Does anybody has any experience like this?

Thanks
Lake65
 
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Since she has already passed the civics section, your aunt will only have to take the reading/writing test.

How old is your aunt and how long has she been a LPR? Depending on certain conditions, she may be exempt from the English requirements.
 
how to prepare for reading writing

How some one can prepare for reading/writing test?
Is there any limits on what they can ask to write?

This may be important for peoples who are not used to read/write ( though they can understand and talk) English in daily life
 
pmpforgc said:
How some one can prepare for reading/writing test?
Is there any limits on what they can ask to write?

This may be important for peoples who are not used to read/write ( though they can understand and talk) English in daily life
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The reading/writing questions asked at the interview are on the 1st grade reading/writing level. The interviewee can be asked to read a sentence similar to "I drive a blue car", "Today is a nice day", or "The President lives in the White House".
 
Vorpal said:
The reading/writing questions asked at the interview are on the 1st grade reading/writing level. The interviewee can be asked to read a sentence similar to "I drive a blue car", "Today is a nice day", or "The President lives in the White House".
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on my interview the writing component was "We pay taxes".

I have been told by a reputable source that of the all ethnic backgrounds who also do not have a strong grasp of the English language, Chinese applicants score almost perfect on the test as compared to all other people who fit this criterion. The reason is that there seems to be a 'club' of Chinese immigrants who keep track of all the possible questions which can be expected on the tests. These questions are then reviewed and studied by new applicants, despite in some cases understanding them. There is after all, a limited number of questions for the reading, writing, and civics sections of the test. The examiner does not have leeway to pick any question they desire, instead the questions are assigned to the applicant by the USCIS office in advance. And these questions are drawn from a limited list. So with a large enough sample size of applicants from the same community going through the process, it is possible to collect a list of all the possible questions. Thereby if someone memorizes the entire list, regardless of even understanding English at all, they would be able to ace the test. Clearly some communities have figured this out.
 
she can strudy reading and writing section. there are list of certain combination that possibly they can ask at the interview. it is listed in citizenship study material on the uscis website. she can practice those and write and read

Vorpal said:
The reading/writing questions asked at the interview are on the 1st grade reading/writing level. The interviewee can be asked to read a sentence similar to "I drive a blue car", "Today is a nice day", or "The President lives in the White House".
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gunt said:
on my interview the writing component was "We pay taxes".

I have been told by a reputable source that of the all ethnic backgrounds who also do not have a strong grasp of the English language, Chinese applicants score almost perfect on the test as compared to all other people who fit this criterion. The reason is that there seems to be a 'club' of Chinese immigrants who keep track of all the possible questions which can be expected on the tests. These questions are then reviewed and studied by new applicants, despite in some cases understanding them. There is after all, a limited number of questions for the reading, writing, and civics sections of the test. The examiner does not have leeway to pick any question they desire, instead the questions are assigned to the applicant by the USCIS office in advance. And these questions are drawn from a limited list. So with a large enough sample size of applicants from the same community going through the process, it is possible to collect a list of all the possible questions. Thereby if someone memorizes the entire list, regardless of even understanding English at all, they would be able to ace the test. Clearly some communities have figured this out.
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The list of possible questions on the civics exam is listed on the USCIS website. I think there is 100 questions in the possible pool of questions. However, some of the question are particular to a person's region (like: Name the capital city of your state?)
 
dhlunar said:
The list of possible questions on the civics exam is listed on the USCIS website. I think there is 100 questions in the possible pool of questions. However, some of the question are particular to a person's region (like: Name the capital city of your state?)
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The OP's aunt passed the civics exam, but failed the reading/writing section.
 
lake65 said:
My Aunt had citizenship interview two weeks ago. She passed the Civics/History/Gov test but could not do reading and writing. The IO said she will get another Interview letter within 45 days and then she will have to re-appear for the interview. he also handed her a letter marked to re-take reading and writing test. on the same letter civics test section is un-marked. Does that mean at the second interview she has to take only reading and writing test?

Does anybody has any experience like this?

Thanks
Lake65
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The English test portion of the naturalization interview includes writing, reading and speaking. The writing/reading part is usually pretty basic - you just have to read a simple sentence and write another simple sentence.
The speaking part is based on the applicants ability to communicate with the IO during the entire interview.
Are you sure that your aunt failed the reading/writing part, rather than the speaking part of the English exam?
The N-652 form with interview results, that she should have gotten at the conclusion of the interview, should specify explicitly on which parts (speaking/reading/writing) of the English exam the applicant needs to be re-tested.
 
where to find chinese question bank for writing/reading

gunt said:
on my interview the writing component was "We pay taxes".

I have been told by a reputable source that of the all ethnic backgrounds who also do not have a strong grasp of the English language, Chinese applicants score almost perfect on the test as compared to all other people who fit this criterion. The reason is that there seems to be a 'club' of Chinese immigrants who keep track of all the possible questions which can be expected on the tests. These questions are then reviewed and studied by new applicants, despite in some cases understanding them. There is after all, a limited number of questions for the reading, writing, and civics sections of the test. The examiner does not have leeway to pick any question they desire, instead the questions are assigned to the applicant by the USCIS office in advance. And these questions are drawn from a limited list. So with a large enough sample size of applicants from the same community going through the process, it is possible to collect a list of all the possible questions. Thereby if someone memorizes the entire list, regardless of even understanding English at all, they would be able to ace the test. Clearly some communities have figured this out.
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Finding of link to this Chinese or other question bank for writing/reading questions can help lot of old peoples with limited English skills
 
baikal3 said:
The English test portion of the naturalization interview includes writing, reading and speaking. The writing/reading part is usually pretty basic - you just have to read a simple sentence and write another simple sentence.
The speaking part is based on the applicants ability to communicate with the IO during the entire interview.
Are you sure that your aunt failed the reading/writing part, rather than the speaking part of the English exam?
The N-652 form with interview results, that she should have gotten at the conclusion of the interview, should specify explicitly on which parts (speaking/reading/writing) of the English exam the applicant needs to be re-tested.
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She actually did not focus much on writing and reading. she practiced the civics exam using the CD with questions (that you get at finger print location). She can understand and speak english OK but cannot read and write.she can copy sentence but cannot write without looking. the conclusion paper had only reading and writing sections checked for re-testing.

thanks
 
voyager99 said:
she can strudy reading and writing section. there are list of certain combination that possibly they can ask at the interview. it is listed in citizenship study material on the uscis website. she can practice those and write and read
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Thank you. I gave her this information. now she will start working on it.
 
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