Question about Adoption

Ladybuggy

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Alright this is for a friend of mine and it might be the wrong board but since I have been a member for a long time here and appreciate everyone of your opinions I'll give it a shot.

My friend is a LPR and so is her Son. She is married to a US Citizen by birth and has been living in the US for 6 years. There is no Father listed on her son's Birthcertificate.
Her Husband is wanting to adopt her son which is fine with her but she wants to know if she has to go through USCIS or not ... I could not answer her question because I don't know so I thought I would ask you guys.
 
Your friend's husband can legally adopt her son (as he is in the USA as an LPR) and then after the adoption is completed, the parents can apply to INS for a certificate of citizenship and go through the naturalization process for their son to become a US citizen.

Here is a link to the Child Citizenship Act of 2001 that might be helpful. I think this holds true for international adoption and domestic adoption of children below the age of 18.

http://www.travel.state.gov/family/adoption/info/info_457.html

Good luck! :)
 
Another thing, she is thinking about getting her citizenship herself and for her son. Is she better off doing it this way or should she wait until after the adoption and just have him do her son and she does her individual one ?
 
Hi Lady buggy,
I see your still not approved for Citizenship?What is the reason for the delay
11-01-07: ID/N-652 Rec'd
 
My Fingerprint Card expired right after I had my Interview and had to take a 2nd Fingerprinting !
 
Her Husband is a US Citizen by Birth not a LPR

I think you misunderstood my response....so please let me clarify. I did stated that your friend's son is the one that is the LPR and not her husband. :)

Please take a look at this information. It should shed more light on his ability to adopt the boy and then the boy to become a US citizen.

As for your friend, since she is married to him already, she should be able to start the naturalization process and get her US citizenship. I think both things can go on simulataneously (meaning her naturalization and her son's adoption).

Requirements

The following are the Act's requirements:

1. At least one parent of the child is a U.S. citizen, either by birth or
naturalization.

2. The child is under the age of 18.

3. The child must be residing in the United States in the legal and physical
custody of the U.S. citizen parent after having been lawfully admitted into
this country as an immigrant for lawful permanent residence.

4. If the child has been adopted, the adoption must be final.


Frequently-Asked Questions

1. Q: Does the Act apply to foreign-born children who have immigrated to the
United States in order to be adopted as well as to those who have been
adopted abroad?

A: Yes. Children who have immigrated to the United States in order to be
adopted become citizens as soon as the adoption decree is final.

2. Q: Does it matter in which order the requirements are met?

A: No. The order does not matter. Citizenship is acquired automatically as
soon as all of the requirements have been met.

3. Q: Will a child who has met the requirements of this new law need to apply
for a passport from the State Department or a Certificate of Citizenship
from the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) in order to
become a citizen?

A: No. As soon as the law's requirements have been met, the child
acquires U.S. citizenship automatically without the need to apply for
either a passport or a Certificate of Citizenship.

4. Q: What documents are required to obtain a passport for a child who
became a U.S. citizen under the Act?

A: (1) Evidence of the child's relationship to a U.S. citizen parent (a
certified copy of the foreign birth certificate for children born to an
American or, if adopted, a certified copy of the final adoption
decree);
(2) the child's foreign passport with INS's I-551 stamp or the child's
resident alien card; and (3) the parent's valid identification.

5. Q: How does someone prove admission into the United States as an
immigrant for lawful permanent residence?

A: Either the child's permanent resident alien card, commonly known as a
"green card," or an I-551 stamp placed in the child's passport by INS.

6. Q: How does a child demonstrate adoption in order to obtain a passport
and/or Certificate of Citizenship?

A: By presenting a certified copy of a final adoption decree.

7. Q: Are the Act's provisions retroactive in applicability?

A: No. Individuals who are 18 years of age or older on February 27, 2001,
will not be able to take advantage of the Act.

8. Q: What is the effective date of U.S. citizenship for children who met all
the requirements of the new law prior to February 27, 2001?

A: February 27, 2001. Even though the requirements were met before the
Act's effective date, citizenship is only acquired on that date.

9. Q: Will U.S. Embassies and Consulates issue reports of birth to children
acquiring citizenship pursuant to this Act?

A: No. Reports of birth are issued only to children who acquire citizenship
at birth.


The Act's Other Provisions

Another section of this new law provides that children (biological and adopted) of U.S. citizens who are born and reside abroad (that is, they do not enter the U.S. as permanent residents) and who don’t become U.S. citizens at birth can apply to INS for a certificate of citizenship if the following conditions are met:

1. At least one parent of the child is a U.S. citizen, whether by birth or
naturalization.

2. The U.S. citizen parent has been physically present in the U.S. for a total
of at least five years, at least two of which are were after the age of 14.
If the child's U.S. citizen parent cannot meet this requirement, it is enough
if one of the child's U.S. citizen grandparents can meet it.

3. The child is under the age of eighteen.

4. The child resides abroad in the legal and physical custody of the U.S.
citizen parent and has been lawfully admitted into the United States as a
nonimmigrant.

Children who acquire citizenship under this new provision do not acquire citizenship automatically; rather, they must/must apply to INS for a certificate of citizenship and go through the naturalization process.
 
Alright this is for a friend of mine and it might be the wrong board but since I have been a member for a long time here and appreciate everyone of your opinions I'll give it a shot.

My friend is a LPR and so is her Son. She is married to a US Citizen by birth and has been living in the US for 6 years. There is no Father listed on her son's Birthcertificate.
Her Husband is wanting to adopt her son which is fine with her but she wants to know if she has to go through USCIS or not ... I could not answer her question because I don't know so I thought I would ask you guys.


There are two issues- [1] Contemplating on obtaining a US citizenship by your friend; [2] Adoption of your friend's son by her husband.


Let's break these issues down-

If your friend likes to be a US citizen then her being married to a natural born US citizen means nothing, nor it means how long she has been living here (without knowing her legal status during all these years in the US because illegal status won't count for citizenship). Rather it depends upon how long she has been a LPR and how she obtained her green card.

If she obtained her green card based upon her marriage to her current US citizen husband then she is eligible to apply for Naturalization after 2 yrs and 9 months of obtaining her green card. But if she has obtained her green card thru any other ground then she would need to wait for 4 yrs and 9 months after obtaining the green card except she obtained her green card under different ground such as under VAWA Act, Asylum or etc. We don't know how long your friend has been a green card holder, nor we know how she obtained her green card; rather all you have said is that she has been in the US for 6 yrs and her husband is a natural born US citizen.

As for the second issue of adopting her son by her husband then it has already been answered by another poster (happigal) in detail with link. Her husband can easily adopt her son based upon the local laws of the State they live in. After adoption, your friend and her husband can file a form to get naturalization paper for her son with USCIS. Since her son is already a LPR and in the US then he would obtained US citizenship right away once adotpiton goes thru. However, keep it in mind that her son already has a legal status here, and would become a US citizenship automatically right away once she would be naturalized.
 
She has been a LPR for 6 Years. She applied for her Green Card over in Germany through the US Consulate and when she stepped Foot into the country 6 years ago she became right away a LPR after she handed the sealed envelope to the immigration Officer after she got off the plane. Her Visa is I guess based on being married to a US Citizen and when he got stationed back to the US she went with him

I appreciate all the Inputs on this Issue and I will pass it on to her.
 
If she obtained her green card based upon her marriage to her current US citizen husband then she is eligible to apply for Naturalization after 2 yrs and 9 months of obtaining her green card. But if she has obtained her green card thru any other ground then she would need to wait for 4 yrs and 9 months after obtaining the green card except she obtained her green card under different ground such as under VAWA Act, Asylum or etc.

Actually there is nothing in the rules that says you can only apply for 3yr marriage based USC if you obtained your GC through marriage. It matters not how you became an LPR, you just have to have been married to the same USC for 3yrs, and have fulfilled 3yrs continuous residence plus the usual physical presence and state residency requirements.
 
This is not the whole point here. She wants her husband to adopt her son. The thing is she doesn't want to become a citizen yet so she says. She wants to wait first and also talk it out with her family that still remains in germany.
 
Actually there is nothing in the rules that says you can only apply for 3yr marriage based USC if you obtained your GC through marriage.

I should not reply to this comment, but thought to clear it up something.

Just wondering who said that one can apply for naturalization based upon 3 yrs rule "ONLY" if one obtained green card thru marriage?? There was actually nothing said nowhere by me about filing of naturalization application based upon 3 yrs rule "ONLY" (as mentioned here) as a virtue of marrying to a US citizen. Rather I said very clearly in black and white that there are other more situations apply upon which OP's friend could apply for Naturalization under 3 yrs rule or 4 yrs rule if she obtained her green card based upon VAWA, Asylum and others. I mentioned about exceptions, and these are the exceptions. So, I didn't say that OP's friend could file a naturalization application under 3 yrs rule ONLY if she is married to US citizen.

Secondly, I don't think it's that hard to comprehend the text of my this coment where I wrote-" she obtained her green card based upon her marriage to her current US citizen husband then she is eligible to apply for Naturalization after 2 yrs and 9 months of obtaining her green card."
 
It matters not how you became an LPR, you just have to have been married to the same USC for 3yrs, and have fulfilled 3yrs continuous residence plus the usual physical presence and state residency requirements.

It DOES matter how someone has obtained a green card when it comes to filing a naturalization application, as some applicants might be able to file a naturalization application under 3 yrs rule, 4 yrs rule, 5 yrs rule or no rule whatsoever, after obtaining the green card. However, when it comes to filing a naturalization application under 3 yrs rule based upon the marriage to a US citizen then it doesn't matter how green card was obtained; rather the applicant must have been married to the same USC for all these required 3 yrs. As for other requirments for naturalization, such as continuous residece, physical presence, residency in a district, moral character and etc, then I've not discussed about them nor felt a need to discuss them.
 
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