rishibajaj
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How do we have to prove that we are living in the district for 90 days or more before sending in the application for natrulization.
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proof of 90 days residence
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one of the following should be sufficient:
1. copy of lease agreement/mortgage
2. employment letter.
3. dirver's license
The 90 day residency requirement is checked via your residency history on question 6 on the n-400 application. Since you are signing the application as a sworn document, no additional proof of residency is required.
The IO will typically ask to see your state-issued id (drivers license) at the start of the interview. That usually covers the 90 day requirement, because the address on the id must match the address on your application (or at least be in the same district).
That would only hold true if you haven't moved during the time you submitted your application and the interview as you're required to notify your state DMV of any address change within 30-60 days of an address change. In the end, the address you provide to USCIS (including any address changes) is what counts.
Citizenship999
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IRS tax return
Utility bills
I dont think IO cares as it is already validated by them even before you reach the interview stage. What Bobsmith says is correct.
You don't have to send residency proof when mailing the N400 appl. The IO will check it during the interview.
Typically the driv license would be the best proof at the interview. The driv license address doesn't match for some people who have moved in the same state but did not get new DL cards. So taking some utility bills may be enough.
Typically the driv license would be the best proof at the interview. The driv license address doesn't match for some people who have moved in the same state but did not get new DL cards. So taking some utility bills may be enough.
No, what counts is that you can prove to the IO that you meet the residence requirements. Simply "providing" an address is insufficient, as it proves nothing.
See the Jurisdiction section of the adjudicators field manual.
(d) Burden of Proof of Establishing Residence . The applicant has the burden of establishing by a preponderance of the evidence that he or she meets all of the requirements for naturalization, including that the applicant resided in the State or Service District having jurisdiction over the applicant’s place of residence for at least three months prior to filing the application. The applicant may be required to submit evidence of residence for at least three months immediately preceding the filing of the application. Your thorough review of the applica tion and contents in the A-file, documentary evidence provided in support of the application, applicant’s testimony, and understanding of this requirement will help you to adjudicate the application properly.
(f) How to Determine Residence . To make a residence determination, you will need to ask the right questions and possibly request additional documentary evidence from the applicant.
(f) How to Determine Residence . To make a residence determination, you will need to ask the right questions and possibly request additional documentary evidence from the applicant.
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To me "Need to ask right questions" means that the IO verbally asks for your address verbally during the interview and is thereby proof of providing your 90 day same district residency requirement. Also, "possibly request additional documentary evidence from the applicant" to me indicates that the IO may ask for documentation when verbal questioning alone cannot establish your 90 day same district residency requirement.
CrossHairs
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Apartment lease documents or residential property tax documents etc can to some extent prove the 90 day requirement, IMO.
Drivers License does not prove that you have lived in the DO area for 90 days, only shows your current residence and you could have lived in the area for only 20 days.
Drivers License does not prove that you have lived in the DO area for 90 days, only shows your current residence and you could have lived in the area for only 20 days.
Scenario:
A permanent resident moves to a new State. He lives with a friend/relative without paying rent (no lease agreement) for 90 days. Now the LPR wants to apply for naturalization. How can this LPR prove his 90-day residence?
Note that some states do not require new residents to switch their driver's license immediately. Most states allow a year.
what I am getting at is that supporting documents are not always available. So in certain cases, it's going to be a matter of convincing the IO during the interview. In this case, I would say a USPS "change of address" confirmation would serve greatly.
A permanent resident moves to a new State. He lives with a friend/relative without paying rent (no lease agreement) for 90 days. Now the LPR wants to apply for naturalization. How can this LPR prove his 90-day residence?
Note that some states do not require new residents to switch their driver's license immediately. Most states allow a year.
what I am getting at is that supporting documents are not always available. So in certain cases, it's going to be a matter of convincing the IO during the interview. In this case, I would say a USPS "change of address" confirmation would serve greatly.
CrossHairs
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Will employer give proof letter of "joining date" - most can. That will help.
CrossHairs
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ok, USPS change of addr filing it is 
Well I don't know about your state's license, but my Maryland license has an "Issue Date" printed on it.
If (issue_date >= 90days) then GoodToGo() else AskForMoreProof()
After you go to your interview, come back and tell us whether the IO asked for your license. If the IO follows standard interview procedures, you'll be asked for your state id at the same time as your GC and passport.
You can debate all you want, but I'VE BEEN THERE, handed over the aforementioned docs and gone through the application line by line. Of course the IO takes your verbal word for it if he's already holding a state issued document indicating the same facts...
CrossHairs
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Well I don't know about your state's license, but my Maryland license has an "Issue Date" printed on it.
If (issue_date >= 90days) then GoodToGo() else AskForMoreProof()
Good point. However, say you moved to San Jose and got a CA driver license. Issue date = Jan 1, 2008 and then in April 10, 2008, you moved to San Francisco. No change in Driver License issue date (California is Calif for DL purpose), but you can get the DL address updated to SF address. You apply for N-400 in April 15, 2008.
San Jose CA is diff DO from San Francisco CA.
Your DO area time is no longer 90 days.
So:
I'm sure I missed a few additional conditions
Speaking of DO's, does the DO process the N-400 application or is it the service center or both?
by the way, looks like this thread has changed to "coding" or "pseudo-coding" to be more accurate
Thanks.
Applications are first entered at the Service Center, then after FP, IBIS & Namecheck, they are transferred to the DO for interview. The in-depth checking and analysis is the responsibility of the IO, and happens prior/during the interview.
Good point. However, say you moved to San Jose and got a CA driver license. Issue date = Jan 1, 2008 and then in April 10, 2008, you moved to San Francisco. No change in Driver License issue date (California is Calif for DL purpose), but you can get the DL address updated to SF address. You apply for N-400 in April 15, 2008.
San Jose CA is diff DO from San Francisco CA.
Your DO area time is no longer 90 days.
So:
I'm sure I missed a few additional conditions
Yup, there are definitely a number of special conditions to take into account.