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cmr

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It seems to me that INS/BCIS follows a pattern of releasing a set of 25 or 50 lin numbers to process. If you look at Rupnet carefully, you can see that all the cases processed - either RFEd or approved - have a lin number upto LIN-02-050. Nothing after that has been touched so far. In other words, NDs upto 11/30/01 have been released for processing so far. My RD is 12/11 and ND 12/14 with LIN being 02-062-5xxxx. If I am lucky enough I may find my case processed in the next set, but don't know when that will be.

This is purely my opinion and I may be completely wrong. Please, if you have any inputs, comments feel free to post them. There hasn't been much activity on this board or Rupnet in the past two days. Your posts will atlease give everyone some hope that though many of the old timers are gone, some posters are still here.

cmr
 
I don't think so ...

Mine is 02-038. No news yet, I called the IIO and was told that my case is not even assigned to the officer. They told me it could take atleast 2 - 3 months.
 
What cmr is saying is consistent with NSC's SOP's

Attached is a link to the standard operating procedure for I-495 processing.

What it says (page 131) is as follows

'Workload Distribution stages work by month of data entry receipt date. All files for that month are RAFACSed to a shelf labeled with the month of data entry receipt. INS supervisors regularly advise both the adjudicators and WD of current operating priorities. Therefore, when an adjudicator makes a request for work, WD is able to fill and distribute the request based upon priorities and the amount of work requested. '

RAFACS is the Receipt and Alien File Accountability Control System.

I had always wondered how many cases there were in a batch given to an adjudication officer. If cmr is correct then it is likely to be 50 cases, which would make sense. What I would be interested in is how long it takes the officer to work those cases. At an 85% efficency a person could get through 50 cases in an 8 hour day if they spent only 8.1 minutes per case. Do we really have to wait for 18 months for 8 minutes worth of attention?





http://shihab.net/empimm/I485sop.pdf
 
My Guess on Nov RD Processing

While official word from NSC is August, they are clearly processing Nov cases. It also looks like they are not moving on to Dec for a while yet. As of Monday they had only worked (RFE or Approved) 22.4% of Nov cases.

My guess is that they will be done in between 3 and 9 weeks on Nov. This does not mean that all cases will be approved, just that they would have at least issued an RFE.
 
Guys, no offence meant at anyone.. But I do not really think there is anything like a pattern for the approvals. All we poor fellas waiting are trying to assign a method to the madness.

I would not really believe anyone is reviewing the work progress at INS - I base my statement on the fact that they have put the processing date at 08/01/01 from last 4 months which looks to me as absolutely rediculous. Do any supervisor tolerate if his direct reports doesn't move on the work for 4 months.. except if it is INS or institutions like INS where there is absolutely 0 accountability. I think that they are thinking that they are doing a huge favor in admitting us in/granting permanent residency while the fact that they do not realize is that we are doing a huge favor for them in many terms ranging from contributing to the economy to helping them out in n number of ways.

Look at my case, my RD is 08/15/01, did not get my approval yet. Lot of people who applied after me did.. do not get me wrong here, I feel happy for all you folks who got their approvals but does't this simple fact demonstrate how un-accoutable and reckless INS is . I am not alone, I know, there are countless people who are even prior to me who are left behind. I would be glad to wait with patience without making any complaint as long as they approve the people before me. But once they cross my date and start approving cases for people after me, that is when it really gets to me. Well, just a personal feeling.

What else can we waiters do folks. Just hang in here, fell left behind, accusing our fate, trying to attach a method to the madness for some reckless unaccountable federal workers. And yet the politicians in this great land of freedom and immigrants suggests that they will look to it that whoever wants to immigrate here will get their residencies with in less than 6 months... Hello... are you serious my dear leaders? Do you know what your are talking about... Well folks, we saw INS change its name to BCIS but not this institution changing its way of functioning. Honestly, how many of you folks think that there is any change in the functioning of this bureau after its name change.. I think it is 0... If you put that question to any of these leaders they will blame the so called aged computer systems. I bet each and every one who have gone thru this ridiculous process of shear un-accountability will be willing to work voluntarily with out expecting a single dollar to update/ rewrite those so called systems.. don't you guys agree... atleast I am.

Well, just to vent off something.....
 
I wonder what the explanation is with those cases that are pending without approval then. I'm not sure how many people with pending cases out there have a receipt date before the offical processing date of Aug 1 01 as of today.

I talked to an IIO on the phone not too long ago, she said that when the case was handed to an officer, it could take as long as the officer wanted to make the best decision on the case.

It makes me wonder and worry: if say 8 minutes is really how long it can take to approve a case without any "issues" after the security check and everything, does that mean all the cases that are pending with an officer are subject to "detailed" review to pick on any problems for disapproval due to tightening on immigration? It almost seems like the longer the wait is, the more likely the case could be disapproved. I surely hope that's not the case.

My RD is 7/18/01, and am still waiting after an RFE reply back on 11/20/02. Is there anyone out there who got their case approved after a long wait at all? Give us some boost on the confidence, please. Thanks.
 
I had heard about 20 minutes per case

for H1b. If it takes more then there is a problem. One officer's approving 20 cases per day, rest of the time just goofing off, coffee, cigarette and gossiping. Considering to generate an rfe it takes 2 minutes!

Look at the post by ImmigrationUSA you can see even LIN-02-081 has been approved (about 200 of them aready approved).
He is tracking some relevent cases all EB based.

Why we don't see any posted for those on this site? I guess this site represents only 0.1% of the total applicants. Most of them don't even bother to throw guesses regarding RD,ND and AD and just sit tight.
 
I think you should check your math

Lets assume that it does take 20 minutes per case, to order the file, read and understand it, apply the law, then do something approve/deny/RFE etc.

There are 480 minutes in an 8 hour work period. Most analysis like this works on the basis of 85% efficency. Restroom, coffee breaks, staff meetings etc. If you get that you are doing ok. So really there are only 408 productive minutes in the day. If they did 20 cases per day @ 20 minutes each then you would be getting your full 400 minutes of work from them which would not leave any time for goofing off.
 
paul, I think you are right, but these are

all the estimates. first, I contradict myself by assuming what H1b processing is same as I-485. I have heard they don't spend much time per case.... it is really hard to come up with any resonable guess about what goes inside BCIS. How many work at one time, do they work overtime, to they contract out etc and what efficiency they work at or do they get paid by per case approched? all unanswered questions....
 
I remember reading somewhere that an officer spends 15 mins per case.

I think immigrationUSA is tracking all 485 cases for those 2 LIN series. These would include EB, FB, EB derivatives and the rest. You could have EB derivative cases in those 2 series, where the primary applicant has an earlier ND. So these derivate cases could be adjudicated along with the primary applicant....too many variables to keep track off.

Most users of this forum (and rupnet) are from south Asia. While they constitute a bulk of pending 485 applications, there are other folks too, and they might not be visiting these sites (or prefer visiting sites such as www.britishexpats.com). For example my European colleagues don't bother visiting these sites, and they just wait it out. So we don't a very good estimate from rupnet's sample. If we go by Rupnet's sample we would tend to believe that BCIS is issuing RFE's to over 50% over the cases. I don't think that would be a fair assumption. Most rfes are for employment letter and birth/marriage certificates and birth/marriage certs are not a problem for folks from a lot of countries. My German colleague just called his city and ordered his BC over the phone using his credit card and it arrived here in the US in a few days.....catch that happening in south Asia:(
 
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I visited immigrationUsa.com , but did not find any tracking information. Can you Post the exact link to their tracking information.

Thanks
 
gc_from_oh:

Its not ImmigrationUSA.com that frodo was talking about. Its a user named ImmigrationUSA on this site who is keeping track of two Lin series.

cmr
 
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