I could not understand why the INS has halted adjudications until I read this article: http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-malkin111402.asp It seems that they foolishly granted the citizenship to a known terrorist and got a lot of heat for it. As a result, they became extremely careful to the extent that they stopped their operations. All what I want to say is that I cant believe the guts of this guy applying for citizenship. People like that hate America and yet they want to be citizens. Meanwhile, many people in this forum have been waiting for more than 10 years to get their permenant residency and not even thier citizenships
Poor INS!!!
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I agree with you that conservatives act as squandors that are waiting to attack their prey- remember the latest idiotic remarks by Trent Lott, the A hole? However, the report was true and they did suspend many INS officials as a result. The problem is that conservatives think that the INS is a liberal organziation but we, immigrants, see it as a conservatve xenophobic institute. That is why I said poor INS and I mean it.
God help usIt looks that I am being a republican on this forum... I kind of agree with the article. Of course author only knows about INS screw-ups. But they are part of the bigger picture. I think a problem with INS, that they take incredibly long time and the rubber-stamp cases. They did approved visas and citizenship to known terrorists. I can only imagine how many other cases like that, nobody knows about!! They should learn to handle their caseload swiftly and efficiently. As for conservatives being against immigration: they mostly against this scary picture of immigrants sneaking from the border, living on welfare and petty crimes. They often have a different attitude toward asylee. When they realize, that we lived here for decade without a cent from public assistance and managed to build a life for ourselves, most conservatives are pretty impressed.
Don't flame me - I guess you can say that immigration restrictions supporter is asylee, who worked in WTC on 9-11…
Don't flame me - I guess you can say that immigration restrictions supporter is asylee, who worked in WTC on 9-11…
annv,
I have total respect for your political ideology. However, let me disagree with you about the way you envision republicans. Here are some facts. Republicans always come up with bills that restrict immigration , whereas, democrats are the ones who open this country for immigrants, especially immigrant that are people of color like me. Republicans are nationalistic by nature and thus for them, America should be for Americans. They do not realise their hypocrisy and that America has been always a country of immigrants. I will take a more liberal position and tell you that I have no problem with Mexicans or Haitians or Cubans sneeking up the border. Did not the Puritan White Americans do the same and did not they steal the country from its native inhabitants? They were also poor and persecuted. As ameter of fact, many of them were cold blooded criminals who got a pardon to go and explore this country. I am sure I am boiling many people's blood by these statements but I want to assure you that those who sneek up the border do not get welfare since they are not documented. They work very hard and do the dirty jobs American do not want to do. As for asylee and refugee, they are actually elegible for welfare and other benefits so republican would be more concerned about them...As for your frustration with the INS, do not forget that the INS has issued a special registeration rules for members of 18 countries. If this is not racial profiling, I do not know what can you call it. I do not disagree with their measure since I am sick and tired of these sick terrorists who threaten my freedom but I want to show you that the INS can be more conservative. Guess what: the only members of congress who protested this measure were deomcrats. I do not want to be construed as a democrat supporter but I think that they are the lesser of 2 evils. Enough of my liberal view and God bless this country so much despite the likes of Gingrich, Limbaugh and Trent Lott!!!!!!!!
Lazerthegreat
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kool down buddy!
shamshon,
First of all, I am absolutely not offended by your comments. To tell the truth, I am not sure if I even have political ideology. I prefer to go by what I feel is fair. Of course I know, that asylee entitled for all benefits, but truthfully, after 5 years waiting for approval, how many of us actually use it. As for new registration rules, they also apply only for males in certain age group. I guess it makes it not just racial profiling, but gender and age too. Personally, I feel that it is a prudent measure. We can't ignore reality of political situation in certain countries. Cubans can get asylum much easier that any other latin americans, we don't call it racial profiling.
Anyway, give me a break; the sight of your office building falling down in flames makes quite an impression. Statements like - "thanks god, plane hit at 8:30, not at 9:30" - do not make me feel much better.
First of all, I am absolutely not offended by your comments. To tell the truth, I am not sure if I even have political ideology. I prefer to go by what I feel is fair. Of course I know, that asylee entitled for all benefits, but truthfully, after 5 years waiting for approval, how many of us actually use it. As for new registration rules, they also apply only for males in certain age group. I guess it makes it not just racial profiling, but gender and age too. Personally, I feel that it is a prudent measure. We can't ignore reality of political situation in certain countries. Cubans can get asylum much easier that any other latin americans, we don't call it racial profiling.
Anyway, give me a break; the sight of your office building falling down in flames makes quite an impression. Statements like - "thanks god, plane hit at 8:30, not at 9:30" - do not make me feel much better.
It was not a point - just a little bit of office lore. Usually most people come to work around 9:15-9:30. So in our group of >80 people at the time when first plane hit only 7 were inside. The thought that many people still alive just by chance of timing is very scary. Almost everybody I know, thinks that it is not the end of it, naturally people are more supportive of immigration restrictions. We might consider it unfair, but lets face reality.
Ok I got it. However, most of the sick terrorists who attacked America were not immigrants. They were students who paid big bucks to learn how to fly a plane. Also, the FBI had just alerted us about 5 islamic terrorists who apeared to have infliltrated our borders from Canada. So restricting immigration will not solve this problem.
mrv71
Refugees and asylees are entitled to pretty much the same benefits as permanent residents: welfare, food stamps, grants, student loans, etc. We can apply for SSI benefits (by age or health reason, of course) What exactly you have available, depends on what state you live in, It is my understanding, that NY and California are more generous than rest of the country.
shamshon
I don't think general public makes a difference between those who came here for a visit and those who came for permanent residence. And they probably have a reason for that: a lot of people tries to adjust their status once they in the country. As for big bucks students: I am pretty sure hat most of the people in this discussion group came here by B2 (I did) or student visa, the same way as the terrorist. Of course new rules hurt us, but I think we should understand the reason for it and agree that it not necessary bad idea. You right, immigration restriction will not solve problem, but tighter control might help. I just wish that powers to be understood, how important it is to process cases fast and efficiently, in reasonable time. I wish they got rid of the arrogant slobs, who seem to form a bulk of INS and hire somebody professional.
Refugees and asylees are entitled to pretty much the same benefits as permanent residents: welfare, food stamps, grants, student loans, etc. We can apply for SSI benefits (by age or health reason, of course) What exactly you have available, depends on what state you live in, It is my understanding, that NY and California are more generous than rest of the country.
shamshon
I don't think general public makes a difference between those who came here for a visit and those who came for permanent residence. And they probably have a reason for that: a lot of people tries to adjust their status once they in the country. As for big bucks students: I am pretty sure hat most of the people in this discussion group came here by B2 (I did) or student visa, the same way as the terrorist. Of course new rules hurt us, but I think we should understand the reason for it and agree that it not necessary bad idea. You right, immigration restriction will not solve problem, but tighter control might help. I just wish that powers to be understood, how important it is to process cases fast and efficiently, in reasonable time. I wish they got rid of the arrogant slobs, who seem to form a bulk of INS and hire somebody professional.
annv,
You have no idea how happy I am for having such a wonderful discussion with you. However, I am still touched by one of the comments made by one of the greatest professors that really touched my life. She said: give me the poor, the tired and the weak but then close the door and look behind it and see the "other" poor, the tired and the weak. We were let in and noone closed the door in our face (despite the sick political enviornment in this country). We can not close the door for the others. If you can, I can not. I thank God for giving me the desire to help these folks. I translate for them, I help them find a lawyer and will fight until they settle down here.
You have no idea how happy I am for having such a wonderful discussion with you. However, I am still touched by one of the comments made by one of the greatest professors that really touched my life. She said: give me the poor, the tired and the weak but then close the door and look behind it and see the "other" poor, the tired and the weak. We were let in and noone closed the door in our face (despite the sick political enviornment in this country). We can not close the door for the others. If you can, I can not. I thank God for giving me the desire to help these folks. I translate for them, I help them find a lawyer and will fight until they settle down here.