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Please Need for Affidavit of support

rabi is a name ?

You are not required to have a sponsor for DV lottery, certainly not as a primary demand. You may obtain a bank statement for yourself (and your family if they are listed in the application), poverty guideline: for 1 person - $10.400, for 2: 14.000 $, for 3: 17.600 $, for 4 persons 22.200 $ , for the last six months
 
rabi is a name ?

You are not required to have a sponsor for DV lottery, certainly not as a primary demand. You may obtain a bank statement for yourself (and your family if they are listed in the application), poverty guideline: for 1 person - $10.400, for 2: 14.000 $, for 3: 17.600 $, for 4 persons 22.200 $ , for the last six months

Agreed with that. The requirement is that you must be able to show you will not become a public charge. That can be done in various ways, including demonstrating savings, net worth, a job offer, an I-134 and so on. So - having a sponsor is only important if you cannot prove your financial position some other way.
 
thank you everyone

Thanks friends for r helps

i have asked the Embassy , and they told me , must you have the I134 affidavit of support , or you must have 65.000dollars!!!!!!!!!!
 
Thanks friends for r helps

i have asked the Embassy , and they told me , must you have the I134 affidavit of support , or you must have 65.000dollars!!!!!!!!!!


65k sounds like a large requirement - it is far more than the amounts normally discussed although perhaps you have a large family. Normally the amounts are around $10k for one person, $15k for 2 people, $20/$25k for a family.

Don't forget though that if you have assets that you plan to sell to finance the move (such as cars etc) then that can be used toward your overall financial picture.

However, on the other hand you have to be realistic. Going through the visa process is expensive. Then you have to play for flights and accommodation for the first couple of weeks until you get an apartment. For an apartment you'll need a deposit and rent up front - so probably 2 to 3 months rent. Then how about a car, food, and so on. All of that probably before you get a job. Some people might not get a job for a while - so if you have to support yourself how will you do that - it WILL take money. You can't turn up with a few hundred dollars in your pocket and expect everything to be ok. Be sensible and realistic...
 
65k sounds like a large requirement - it is far more than the amounts normally discussed although perhaps you have a large family. Normally the amounts are around $10k for one person, $15k for 2 people, $20/$25k for a family.

Don't forget though that if you have assets that you plan to sell to finance the move (such as cars etc) then that can be used toward your overall financial picture.

However, on the other hand you have to be realistic. Going through the visa process is expensive. Then you have to play for flights and accommodation for the first couple of weeks until you get an apartment. For an apartment you'll need a deposit and rent up front - so probably 2 to 3 months rent. Then how about a car, food, and so on. All of that probably before you get a job. Some people might not get a job for a while - so if you have to support yourself how will you do that - it WILL take money. You can't turn up with a few hundred dollars in your pocket and expect everything to be ok. Be sensible and realistic...


Couldn't have put it better myself :)

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Case No - DV2013AF0007XXXX (applied the first time and got it the first time - lucky me!)
Entry Checked - 1st May 2012
Forms Sent To KCC - 10th May 2012
Received By KCC - 12th May 2012
Confirmation From KCC - 25th May 2012 after I sent them an email
2nd NL - 14th June 2013
Police Clearance (TZ) - 13th June 2013
Police Clearance (UK) - 21st June 2013
Medicals - Completed 24th June 2013
I-134 - 16th July 2013
Bank Statements - 22nd July 2013
Interview - Wednesday, August 7th 2013 @ 8am - US Embassy Tanzania
Visa Pick up - Hopefully August 11th 2013
Departure Date - August 17th 2013
Port of Entry - Washington Dulles
 
Thanks friends for r helps

i have asked the Embassy , and they told me , must you have the I134 affidavit of support , or you must have 65.000dollars!!!!!!!!!!


As britsimon says above, $65,000 is pretty high but assuming you have a large family of say 6-8 people then you're in a bit of a situation and you'd need financial backup to get you through.

The expenses pretty much start from the day you filled in the DV application waaaaay back in October as follows. To elaborate on britsimon's post as follows:


Internet Fee - whatever $$$ it costs in your country

Courier (FedEx/UPS) - around $40 (I'm guessing)

Documentation Procurement Expenses - can be anything from $100 to $1,000 depending on where you are and if you have to pay legally or bribes to get these documents quickly.

Medical - between $150 to $600 (on average) per person depending on what vaccines each person requires.

Visa Fee - $330 per person

USCIS Fee - $165 per person

Air Fare - approximately $800 to $1,500 per person depending on the airline for economy class

Luggage Trolley (yes Luggage Trolley!) - about $5 per trolley depending on the airport (last time I was there it was $5)

Taxi - if nobody is picking you up, you'll need a cab. A three hour trip can hit $400 (that's what it cost me from JFK to Allentown in Pennsylvania). A trip within the city is perhaps $20 depending on where in the city it is and traffic. Naturally if you have a family then you'll need two cabs.

Accommodation - a decent (and I mean like a basic hotel) would be about $60 to $100 per night per room. If you're lucky you could get away with special offers. If you don't find an apartment or alternative accommodation and are in a hotel for a month then you're looking at around $60 x 30 nights x 2 rooms (assuming) = $3,600 and by the way if you have a family you can't shove them all in one hotel room because of health and safety regulations.

Apartment - a decent single bedroom apartment in the suburbs (depending on which state) can be anything between $900 to $1,700. For example a single bedroom apartment in Allentown (Pennsylvania) is around $1,100 with utilities and the same kind of apartment in Maryland or Virginia is $1,700. If you have a family you'd need at least two rooms so your rent can hit around $2,000 or more. If you're in a city then the rents are way higher. Having said that and to reiterate britsimon's post; you'll have to pay a month or two deposit and rent up front so you'd be looking at not less than $6,000 depending on where you are.

Transportation - if you're in a city you can get by with public transport which isn't expensive. If you're not in a city you will definitely need a car to move around and be able to go to the supermarket or pharmacy etc. A garbage bin of a second hand car would be around $4,000 depending on its condition and year or a good second hand vehicle can be around $18,000. New cars start from $20,000 upwards depending on what make you buy.

Food - everyone has to eat and the stomach knows no shame or limitations so you will need to feed yourself and your family unless you decide to live on soup for 6 months and one loaf of bread every two days. A trip to the supermarket to buy the basic groceries, fruits, veggies, shampoo, shower gel etc. for a month could be around $300 to $500. Eating out at restaurants is not an option if you're financially restricted because a meal for 4 people at Outback Steakhouse (for example) easily hits $80. Alternatively a restaurant like Saad's (in Philadelphia) which is a halal restaurant is cheap and the food is good and you'd get away with a meal for a whole family at $25.



So as my friend britsimon says quite correctly, this process takes money and quite a decent amount of money to be safe and many people are naive of this and get a rude awakening when they get to the USA and in your case if you don't have a sponsor then you either need to find a sponsor for an I-134 or have enough money to let the consular officer know you won't be a public charge.

Remember the US Government is sitting on a deficit right now and doesn't need more expenses in the way of immigrants who are at risk of becoming a public charge.

Simon - please correct me if I am mistaken anywhere.




Case No - DV2013AF0007XXXX (applied the first time and got it the first time - lucky me!)
Entry Checked - 1st May 2012
Forms Sent To KCC - 10th May 2012
Received By KCC - 12th May 2012
Confirmation From KCC - 25th May 2012 after I sent them an email
2nd NL - 14th June 2013
Police Clearance (TZ) - 13th June 2013
Police Clearance (UK) - 21st June 2013
Medicals - Completed 24th June 2013
I-134 - 16th July 2013
Bank Statements - 22nd July 2013
Interview - Wednesday, August 7th 2013 @ 8am - US Embassy Tanzania
Visa Pick up - Hopefully August 11th 2013
Departure Date - August 17th 2013
Port of Entry - Washington Dulles
 
sweet.persona

Did you give your case number to the embassy, did you make your inquiry in the embassy the your capacity of DV lottery winner ? I do not see your case number in your signature

If you made a general inquiry to the embassy: "Do I need an affidavit of support, because I want to go to the US" without telling them your case number and name and surname, of course the answer from the embassy would be "Yes, you do I-134", because I -134 is a guarantee that the traveler will not overstay visa or find work in US illegally
 
sweet.persona

Did you give your case number to the embassy, did you make your inquiry in the embassy the your capacity of DV lottery winner ? I do not see your case number in your signature

If you made a general inquiry to the embassy: "Do I need an affidavit of support, because I want to go to the US" without telling them your case number and name and surname, of course the answer from the embassy would be "Yes, you do I-134", because I -134 is a guarantee that the traveler will not overstay visa or find work in US illegally
I-134 is solely a financial guarantee. Nobody can guarantee that a visitor won't overstay or work illegally, so consular officers don't use I-134 to determine the likelyhood of a visa applicant to do those things. Obviously if a visitor runs out of money while in the States he's likely to overstay or work illegally, but when that happens the gov't can question the sponsor why the visitor has no money, they would probably even make the sponsor buy the ticket home.
 
I-134 is solely a financial guarantee. Nobody can guarantee that a visitor won't overstay or work illegally, so consular officers don't use I-134 to determine the likelyhood of a visa applicant to do those things. Obviously if a visitor runs out of money while in the States he's likely to overstay or work illegally, but when that happens the gov't can question the sponsor why the visitor has no money, they would probably even make the sponsor buy the ticket home.

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Momo - you did say it better - nothing to correct there!

The thing is with the I-134 it isn't even a guarantee. It isn't enforceable on the person that signed it (i.e. that person cannot be held financially responsible for the person they sponsor) and the only legal aspect of it is that lies on the form could open the person to a charge of perjury. So - even having a sponsor is not a guarantee to the government that you won't become a public charge - so you'd better have a plan of how you will survive and be prepared to prove that plan during your DV interview. In some cases I imagine they ask almost nothing about financial preparedness, but in other cases they will ask for proof....
 
Momo - you did say it better - nothing to correct there!

The thing is with the I-134 it isn't even a guarantee. It isn't enforceable on the person that signed it (i.e. that person cannot be held financially responsible for the person they sponsor) and the only legal aspect of it is that lies on the form could open the person to a charge of perjury. So - even having a sponsor is not a guarantee to the government that you won't become a public charge - so you'd better have a plan of how you will survive and be prepared to prove that plan during your DV interview. In some cases I imagine they ask almost nothing about financial preparedness, but in other cases they will ask for proof....



I think the legally enforceable form is the I-864 if I recall correctly but that's non DV related and pertains to NVC (other immigrants).



12 days to go for me...I must have checked my documents endless times. This week I'm preparing the affidavit of work experience letter from my parents for them to sign off. I'm also taking my school leaving certificate (showing 13 years of schooling) along with my high school diploma.

Should I take the title deed to our home (under my mother's name) to the interview in case they ask how I'd raise capital to start a business there or is it unnecessary? We are planning to sell the homes/land anyway since we'd all be living in the USA eventually.

Also Zuko was saying that I should take my aunt's passport copy of all pages to the interview with the I-134 she provided but she's a US citizen so I'm wondering if that'll be necessary.

Wednesday 7th August is the interview and Thursday 8th August is Eid to finish of Ramadan...if I get through it'd be one heck of an Eid celebration for me and its a long weekend too!




Case No - DV2013AF0007XXXX (applied the first time and got it the first time - lucky me!)
Entry Checked - 1st May 2012
Forms Sent To KCC - 10th May 2012
Received By KCC - 12th May 2012
Confirmation From KCC - 25th May 2012 after I sent them an email
2nd NL - 14th June 2013
Police Clearance (TZ) - 13th June 2013
Police Clearance (UK) - 21st June 2013
Medicals - Completed 24th June 2013
I-134 - 16th July 2013
Bank Statements - 22nd July 2013
Interview - Wednesday, August 7th 2013 @ 8am - US Embassy Tanzania
Visa Pick up - Hopefully August 11th 2013
Departure Date - August 17th 2013
Port of Entry - Washington Dulles
 
I think the legally enforceable form is the I-864 if I recall correctly but that's non DV related and pertains to NVC (other immigrants).



12 days to go for me...I must have checked my documents endless times. This week I'm preparing the affidavit of work experience letter from my parents for them to sign off. I'm also taking my school leaving certificate (showing 13 years of schooling) along with my high school diploma.

Should I take the title deed to our home (under my mother's name) to the interview in case they ask how I'd raise capital to start a business there or is it unnecessary? We are planning to sell the homes/land anyway since we'd all be living in the USA eventually.

Also Zuko was saying that I should take my aunt's passport copy of all pages to the interview with the I-134 she provided but she's a US citizen so I'm wondering if that'll be necessary.

Wednesday 7th August is the interview and Thursday 8th August is Eid to finish of Ramadan...if I get through it'd be one heck of an Eid celebration for me and its a long weekend too!




Case No - DV2013AF0007XXXX (applied the first time and got it the first time - lucky me!)
Entry Checked - 1st May 2012
Forms Sent To KCC - 10th May 2012
Received By KCC - 12th May 2012
Confirmation From KCC - 25th May 2012 after I sent them an email
2nd NL - 14th June 2013
Police Clearance (TZ) - 13th June 2013
Police Clearance (UK) - 21st June 2013
Medicals - Completed 24th June 2013
I-134 - 16th July 2013
Bank Statements - 22nd July 2013
Interview - Wednesday, August 7th 2013 @ 8am - US Embassy Tanzania
Visa Pick up - Hopefully August 11th 2013
Departure Date - August 17th 2013
Port of Entry - Washington Dulles

I chuckle when I read of your preparation. You have this covered from so many angles and that will be very obvious so it would be a very brave CO that tries to mess with you!!

I would not personally take the deed. It isn't in your name, so you would need supporting documents from your mother saying it was an asset you could liquidate - and really I am sure you don't need it. Apart from anything else, you don't really want to carry a deed around without good reason...

What I would do is this. Compile your documents in this order:-
Statement of Financial position/Net worth.
Bank statements
Proof of other assets
I-134 from your aunt (plus supporting docs)
Anything else you want to show.

By the time they get to your no public charge bit they will already know your qualifications and occupation. Honestly I would expect that to be enough in your case. They may then take a glance at your net worth and bank statements but I doubt they will go any further down the list.

You WIN Momo - no doubt about it, so they just aren't gonna waste a lot of time trying to prove you can't support yourself. I predict your interview will be a short and successful one, followed by a very good Eid celebration.
 
I-134 is solely a financial guarantee. Nobody can guarantee that a visitor won't overstay or work illegally, so consular officers don't use I-134 to determine the likelyhood of a visa applicant to do those things. Obviously if a visitor runs out of money while in the States he's likely to overstay or work illegally, but when that happens the gov't can question the sponsor why the visitor has no money, they would probably even make the sponsor buy the ticket home.

In my country there was a case where one guy went to the US on tourist visa and on top of that his sponsors I-134, paid deposit, circa 15.000 $. That money and I-134 were a kind of as a guarantee that the traveler will retain non-immigrant status. Anyway the poor thing went on a wedding event only

65.000$ sounds like the same case - deposited money

or sweet.persona has at least 4-5 hildren lol
 
In my country there was a case where one guy went to the US on tourist visa and on top of that his sponsors I-134, paid deposit, circa 15.000 $. That money and I-134 were a kind of as a guarantee that the traveler will retain non-immigrant status. Anyway the poor thing went on a wedding event only

65.000$ sounds like the same case - deposited money

or sweet.persona has at least 4-5 hildren lol

Paid a deposit for a tourist visa???

Doesn't sound right at all - more like a little local "enterprise"...
 
sweet.persona,
I believe that you called the embassy and you got stuck in a typical communication warp - they do not listen to what you say, they do not care if it is immigrant status. When they hear "I-134" the jut throw info on you
can you go and check info in person
 
momo take the title deed with you, but keep it in the bag, provide as per request
Is there going to be feedback from you when you settle down in US, concrete things, concrete amounts, what and how much regrding all living expenses,...or you are planning to disappear into thin (US) air, momo
 
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