Please Help!

Butterfly44

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Hello everyone,
I am too confused and depressed about my case and I really need your help from previous experiences that you guys had.

I came in United States as a F1 student when I was 15 and I overstayed for 3 years but I was a minor at that time and i was not accruing unlawful presence when I was 17 i was selected as a lottery winner and I did file with immigration 1485 and i waited for almost 8 months till i got the response that I was put through removal proceedings because i was in a unlawful status. During this time i married my boyfriend and went to the court a year ago to review the 1485 which was denied from the office and the judge told my lawyer that he wanted all my story written and wanted me to wait till the next hearing which is a couple of days from now. A month ago my lawyer filed with Immigration the i130 and i received the paper which said that they have received the money... I don't know what to expect on the court because its again a master hearing i thought that it would have been and individual hearing...I know that it is a little complicated and I wish that i have been clearly enough explaining my case but I am so nervous. I have a lawyer and everything its been 2 years that I pay him but now I am thinking that he doesn't know what he is doing...Please help!

And also am I accruing unlawful presence now ?

Thanks everyone!
 
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Even though you weren't accruing unlawful presence when you were 17, you were not in legal status, and you have to be in legal status to file I-485 based on the lottery. All you had to do is leave the US before age 18 + 180 days and you could have gotten the GC through a US consulate.

Given that your marriage occurred after you were already in removal proceedings, it is presumed that it was just to get a GC and not a bona fide marriage. Furthermore, I-485 applications are usually denied if filed after you're already in removal proceedings. You are doomed if you try to obtain a GC through the I-485 route. You will get deported and then banned for at least 5 years. If you want a chance at a GC anytime soon, you need to abandon the I-485 and go through a consulate (although it may be too late depending on how much unlawful presence you have accumulated), and get a lawyer!

I presume you are 19 now ... when did they initiate removal proceedings?
 
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Even though you weren't accruing unlawful presence when you were 17, you were not in legal status, and you have to be in legal status to file I-485 based on the lottery. All you had to do is leave the US before age 18 + 180 days and you could have gotten the GC through a US consulate.

Given that your marriage occurred after you were already in removal proceedings, it is presumed that it was just to get a GC and not a bona fide marriage. Furthermore, I-485 applications are usually denied if filed after you're already in removal proceedings. You are doomed if you try to obtain a GC through the I-485 route. You will get deported and then banned for at least 5 years. If you want a chance at a GC anytime soon, you need to abandon the I-485 and go through a consulate (although it may be too late depending on how much unlawful presence you have accumulated), and get a lawyer!

I presume you are 19 now ... when did they initiate removal proceedings?

Thats what I am asking do people accrue unlawful presence when they are having court proceedings?
Because i stayed in US all this time while i had proceeding thats why i did not leave the country and apply to a us embassy abroad..
 
Thats what I am asking do people accrue unlawful presence when they are having court proceedings?
Because i stayed in US all this time while i had proceeding thats why i did not leave the country and apply to a us embassy abroad..

I'm saying you should have gone abroad when you were 17/18, before any proceedings were initiated against you. By staying and filing the I-485 when you were out of status, thereby triggering removal proceedings and a drawn out court battle, you lost your opportunity for the lottery green card.

If your case is ultimately denied, I think you will be deemed to accumulate unlawful presence ever since they initiated removal proceedings, but that depends on the specific facts of the case and is for the judge to decide.
 
According to INA 204(g); 8 C.F.R. 204.2(a)(1)(iii), USCIS cannot approve an I-130 immediate relative petition without an exemption if the marriage occurs during the respondent’s exclusion, deportation or removal proceedings. For this reason, it is important for the applicant to specifically request a bona fide marriage exemption under INA § 245 (e) (3); 8 C.F.R. § 204.2 (a) (1) (iii) and § 245 (c) (8) (iii) – (v). While it is true that the agency may presume you are requesting the exemption, it is best to clearly indicate so in a cover letter in order to avoid delays in processing the case.

Your situation is covered here. This is what guides the decision on the petition.

8 CFR 204.2 (a)(1)

(iii) Marriage during proceedings—general prohibition against approval of visa petition. A visa petition filed on behalf of an alien by a United States citizen or a lawful permanent resident spouse shall not be approved if the marriage creating the relationship occurred on or after November 10, 1986, and while the alien was in exclusion, deportation, or removal proceedings, or judicial proceedings relating thereto. Determination of commencement and termination of proceedings and exemptions shall be in accordance with §245.1(c)(9) of this chapter, except that the burden in visa petition proceedings to establish eligibility for the exemption in §245.1(c)(9)(iii)(F) of this chapter shall rest with the petitioner.

(A) Request for exemption. No application or fee is required to request an exemption. The request must be made in writing and submitted with the Form I–130. The request must state the reason for seeking the exemption and must be supported by documentary evidence establishing eligibility for the exemption.

(B) Evidence to establish eligibility for the bona fide marriage exemption. The petitioner should submit documents which establish that the marriage was entered into in good faith and not entered into for the purpose of procuring the alien's entry as an immigrant. The types of documents the petitioner may submit include, but are not limited to:

( 1 ) Documentation showing joint ownership of property;

( 2 ) Lease showing joint tenancy of a common residence;

( 3 ) Documentation showing commingling of financial resources;

( 4 ) Birth certificate(s) of child(ren) born to the petitioner and beneficiary;

( 5 ) Affidavits of third parties having knowledge of the bona fides of the marital relationship (Such persons may be required to testify before an immigration officer as to the information contained in the affidavit. Affidavits must be sworn to or affirmed by people who have personal knowledge of the marital relationship. Each affidavit must contain the full name and address, date and place of birth of the person making the affidavit and his or her relationship to the spouses, if any. The affidavit must contain complete information and details explaining how the person acquired his or her knowledge of the marriage. Affidavits should be supported, if possible, by one or more types of documentary evidence listed in this paragraph); or

( 6 ) Any other documentation which is relevant to establish that the marriage was not entered into in order to evade the immigration laws of the United States.

(C) Decision. Any petition filed during the prohibited period shall be denied, unless the petitioner establishes eligibility for an exemption from the general prohibition. The petitioner shall be notified in writing of the decision of the director.

(D) Denials. The denial of a petition because the marriage took place during the prohibited period shall be without prejudice to the filing of a new petition after the beneficiary has resided outside the United States for the required period of two years following the marriage. The denial shall also be without prejudice to the consideration of a new petition or a motion to reopen the visa petition proceedings if deportation or exclusion proceedings are terminated after the denial other than by the beneficiary's departure from the United States. Furthermore, the denial shall be without prejudice to the consideration of a new petition or motion to reopen the visa petition proceedings, if the petitioner establishes eligibility for the bona fide marriage exemption contained in this part: Provided, That no motion to reopen visa petition proceedings may be accepted if the approval of the motion would result in the beneficiary being accorded a priority date within the meaning of section 203(c) of the Act earlier than November 29, 1990.

(E) Appeals. The decision of the Board of Immigration Appeals concerning the denial of a relative visa petition because the petitioner failed to establish eligibility for the bona fide marriage exemption contained in this part will constitute the single level of appellate review established by statute.

(F) Priority date. A preference beneficiary shall not be accorded a priority date within the meaning of section 203(c) of the Act based upon any relative petition filed during the prohibited period, unless an exemption contained in this part has been granted. Furthermore, a preference beneficiary shall not be accorded a priority date prior to November 29, 1990, based upon the approval of a request for consideration for the bona fide marriage exemption contained in this part.

(2) Evidence for petition for a spouse. In addition to evidence of United States citizenship or lawful permanent residence, the petitioner must also provide evidence of the claimed relationship. A petition submitted on behalf of a spouse must be accompanied by a recent ADIT-style photograph of the petitioner, a recent ADIT-style photograph of the beneficiary, a certificate of marriage issued by civil authorities, and proof of the legal termination of all previous marriages of both the petitioner and the beneficiary. However, non-ADIT-style photographs may be accepted by the district director when the petitioner or beneficiary reside(s) in a country where such photographs are unavailable or cost prohibitive.

(3) Decision on and disposition of petition. The approved petition will be forwarded to the Department of State's Processing Center. If the beneficiary is in the United States and is eligible for adjustment of status under section 245 of the Act, the approved petition will be retained by the Service. If the petition is denied, the petitioner will be notified of the reasons for the denial and of the right to appeal in accordance with the provisions of 8 CFR 3.3.

(4) Derivative beneficiaries. No alien may be classified as an immediate relative as defined in section 201(b) of the Act unless he or she is the direct beneficiary of an approved petition for that classification. Therefore, a child of an alien approved for classification as an immediate relative spouse is not eligible for derivative classification and must have a separate petition filed on his or her behalf. A child accompanying or following to join a principal alien under section 203(a)(2) of the Act may be included in the principal alien's second preference visa petition. The child will be accorded second preference classification and the same priority date as the principal alien. However, if the child reaches the age of twenty-one prior to the issuance of a visa to the principal alien parent, a separate petition will be required. In such a case, the original priority date will be retained if the subsequent petition is filed by the same petitioner. Such retention of priority date will be accorded only to a son or daughter previously eligible as a derivative beneficiary under a second preference spousal petition.
 
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